epona horse rescue
JimWeber

Alliance, NE

#21 Oct 5, 2010
After a 5 day trial this person was found guilty of 145 cases of abuse and neglect...he may serve 18 months of his sentence and not own or reside with an animal a long time...what if this thing really didn't happen the way we all suppose it went down?
No bone, soil or blood samples were submitted to anyone beyond a local vet...what is saying not all the evidence or witnesses to the event were submitted?
What if we put the guy away for all the wrong reasons...?
See I care an awful lot about all the issues...I'm living this nightmare...
so I do speak a little from the heart in this...has anyone asked the law or Humane society to check on the accusations made against Epona?
What if she does need help?
Who out there is going to help the horses if what you say is true?
Go look as a group, don't go looking for the negative, go look cuz you care, and then come in here as a group and explain what you found...
I'm just one guy who worked for a while thinking I did the right thing, I didn't set behind a computer and think about what was happening...and you shouldn't either...
proof to me right now is the majority concensous of a situation...You put yourselves in my situation right now, you wonder for over a year if all this crap I went through is the whole truth....
I for one have my doubts if everything I witnessed actually was the way I saw it while I was on scene...
I'm just speaking from the heart on the rescue topics...go look at EPona as a group, if you show me the proof I'll help shut her down any way I can, but if you find otherwise, let me know also, so at least I can support her morally.
Jim Weber
zandernzoe

Fargo, ND

#22 Oct 10, 2010
Love My Horse wrote:
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Somehow or another you must have misread something or are just dreaming this nonsense up, I gather in reality is the later. I suggest honestly before you go around spouting these types of lies and liable that you get your facts straight! I highly doubt if you'd like someone such as the State Attorney Generals office to have your IPS address located and liable charges brought against you, so really, shame on YOU for spreading such lies and making up horrible things about people who are simply trying to help animals who are otherwise left to defend for themselves and might otherwise die. When you spread these types of lies you hurt ALL rescues, not just your "enemies". Here's a helpful free piece of advise to you and your ilk ... GROW UP and get a life!
So i read this message too and thought the same thing for a few. The issue was that lin just happened to write it in a i guess sloppy way. i think what she meant was she couldnt purchase the horse so they had to go to slaughter not that she sent two mares from her herd to slaughter. I should have sent her a message to revise. I thought i was the only one to have looked at it wrong at first.

Since: Aug 10

Pagosa Springs, CO

#23 Oct 10, 2010
JimWeber wrote:
After a 5 day trial this person was found guilty of 145 cases of abuse and neglect...he may serve 18 months of his sentence and not own or reside with an animal a long time...what if this thing really didn't happen the way we all suppose it went down?
No bone, soil or blood samples were submitted to anyone beyond a local vet...what is saying not all the evidence or witnesses to the event were submitted?
What if we put the guy away for all the wrong reasons...?
See I care an awful lot about all the issues...I'm living this nightmare...
so I do speak a little from the heart in this...has anyone asked the law or Humane society to check on the accusations made against Epona?
What if she does need help?
Who out there is going to help the horses if what you say is true?
Go look as a group, don't go looking for the negative, go look cuz you care, and then come in here as a group and explain what you found...
I'm just one guy who worked for a while thinking I did the right thing, I didn't set behind a computer and think about what was happening...and you shouldn't either...
proof to me right now is the majority concensous of a situation...You put yourselves in my situation right now, you wonder for over a year if all this crap I went through is the whole truth....
I for one have my doubts if everything I witnessed actually was the way I saw it while I was on scene...
I'm just speaking from the heart on the rescue topics...go look at EPona as a group, if you show me the proof I'll help shut her down any way I can, but if you find otherwise, let me know also, so at least I can support her morally.
Jim Weber
Jim, I have PLENTY OF PROOF, if I told you what I know you'd be heart sick, seriously! And we are trying to get her shut down, I have been asking for help from Buffalo County Sheriff and the Nebraska State Patrol. I am very frustrated and angry that no one has stepped in to help get these horses off of her place and that she is still allowed to "rescue" horses. If you're serious about helping me shut her down after you've heard what I have to say, I'd be more than happy for the help and I'll be happy to privately send you my contact info.
JimWeber

Alliance, NE

#24 Oct 12, 2010
These are the facts...Lin has hay and a vet on call when she needs one. In fact Lin is very active with with an institution having an equine program for pre-vet students and vet techs. She also has a good report from the Buffalo County Sheriffs department that verifies her sincere hope to help horses.
Their are no discrepancies in her care for the horses

I'm about 250 miles away and all I did was make a few kindly worded phone calls to people whose job it is to look at matters like this.
I don't know all the situation involved in dealing her some dirt, but at least I know Lin is and does have the horse's health and welfare in mind.
I hope whoever(no accusations here) started the rumors can make the same calls I did . These people owe her and those in this forum some type of an apology.
The sheriffs department cooperated in a very timely manner and again, let me re-iterate they found no problems.
Lin if you do read this, if it matters, thanks for caring for the horses, it's a tough job!
I'm sorry as hell I got involved but I am not sorry we got to the truth.I can't do more than lay it on the line, here again is what the sherrif's department did. They looked at round bales of hay and they looked at a barn full of hay, they talked to the vet and they can verify that Lin runs a legitemate rescue. There are over 140 pictures available at the office of the Buffalo County Sherrif"s Department that says Lin is running a great rescue effort. They are current as of today.
You can't get any better at the truth than that.
JimWeber
JimWeber

Alliance, NE

#25 Oct 12, 2010
I'm going to go one further....
I believe there is a need for sale barns, slaughter houses and euthanasia.
I think people are cruel when they don't have the facts straight.
I think there are to many arm chair types who have no clue what it takes for a horse to survive.
I think deer. elk, buffalo, antelope and chickens were meant to be ate. I believe wild turkies, geese and ducks taste better shot out in the wild and I believe a chicken nugget is garbage.
I think store bought lunch meat is crap, read the label on it sometime, it'll say things like chicken, beef and pork by products are used in the recipe to make it. I was a butcher and meat cutter, in the thousands of animals I killed and cut up I never did find the "by products" instead I found miles of intestines, lips, anal orifices and jowls, funny what you can label huh?
I give up caring about anyones horses but my own.
I could give a crap about what the environmentalist think needs done concerning the welfare of wild horses...I think there are too many neglected domestic horses, to worry about the wild ones.....
I know for fact after witnessing the truth it's hard to starve a horse, mule or burro to death, they'll damn near eat anything to survive.
I seen it happen where people get to carried away doing what they think is right in their concern about animals/
I also think man was meant to be a meat eater, otherwise the good lord, and evolution wouldn't have made canine teeth fit inside his mandibular structures.
I think you can eat healthy beef and if I was hungry enough I can damn well say I'd probably eat a horse if I had to.
I'm a good father, I like cats, dogs and most all animals...I think chickens are about as unhealthy a meat as there is, store bought.
I hunt, trap and use what nature provides.
I believe in America and I understand the truth hurts sometimes.
I am what I am and you can't do anything about it.
JimWeber
badrescues suck

Burwell, NE

#26 Oct 12, 2010
Please send me the proof, I would love to shut her down, You can send it to [email protected]
Love My Horse wrote:
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Jim, I have PLENTY OF PROOF, if I told you what I know you'd be heart sick, seriously! And we are trying to get her shut down, I have been asking for help from Buffalo County Sheriff and the Nebraska State Patrol. I am very frustrated and angry that no one has stepped in to help get these horses off of her place and that she is still allowed to "rescue" horses. If you're serious about helping me shut her down after you've heard what I have to say, I'd be more than happy for the help and I'll be happy to privately send you my contact info.
Admirer of a thankless jo

United States

#27 Oct 13, 2010
Can anyone say Witchhunt. I have read all these posts thru out the time and across the board. I must say I am embarrased - not for me but for many of you. I see complaints for a NOT FOR PROFIT tryint solicit funds (like all Rescues of everykind do even Humane Society of America and others). If she takes one in you complain, if she doesn't you complain, if you don't like the level of care selected you complain. If you don't like which horses are up for adoption and which are not...yep you complain. I'd just like to know - how many of you have offered to "adopt" or help out. I only see the slanderous chatter. What happened to supporting the horses. Pick the right band wagon and just don't follow the wrong one. Its just too easy and even more easy to fall into that same trap. We all need to take off the rose colored glasses and open the closed minds. Every rescue is overloaded, many are closing as they don't have any financial backing or support, some had led horses into the same fate they were being rescued from. I know some rescues will not take in the old or lame or sick. There are yet others that make the hard decision to humanly euthanize when they can't be placed after 6 months or the horse is a danger to all. If you don't want to give financial support then take on a horse yourself.
Admirer of a thankless jo

United States

#28 Oct 13, 2010
To Jim Weber. Thanks for posting the honest truth.

Love My Horse - I also have solid visual proof to support her rescue over many others (some of which I am thankful are not here anymore). I defintely don't approve of any rescue that maintains a stallion for breeding purposes.

I WILL support Epona and I WILL support others that are just as worthy as her!!!!!

I will provide funds to support her legal battle against those of slander and down right stalking and harrassement. Epona package with legal info and rights is in the mail!
JimWeber

Alliance, NE

#30 Oct 13, 2010
To show you my apology for disturbing her day, I'm going to offer this to EPONA:
I have the last colt born out of the 3-Strikes fiasco!
His mother is branded out of a herd in Nevada. This colt is magnificent.
He is for sale and I will donate the majority of the price of the colt to EPONA. The only money I will keep from the sale of this colt is for health papers and castration and up to date vaccinations and wormer.
I will supply records to that effect.
Asking price for the colt is $ 500, think of it as a tax deductable contribution to EPONA. We will look into what needs done for that verification and make this a legitemate enterprise.
I'm putting a lot on the line to prove to you, Epona is what it claims to be.
The colt is rich dark bay with black points, mane and tail, with a small lightening bar on the tip of his nose.
The mare is broke gentle and an absolute pet.
I will be weaning this colt this spring.
He is all I say he is, and a miracle to the efforts over 100 people put into the rescue to save this mare and 213 other neglected horses.
The new owner will have to sign a paper saying the colt will be taken care of properly or released to Epona if conditions warrant his removal.
Take on this project, we will all benefit, more importantly the colt and Epona will benefit.
The colts name is "Shelby's Sunny Surprise",(SUNNY).
The mare shouldn't have carried the colt to birth, and the local vets thought the mare aborted. I turned her out on good pasture and fed her every day during her pregnancy, just like I do today.
She had the colt on her own and I discovered the colt minutes after it was born while feeding the cattle.
I thought the neighbor had bought a skinny pony and it had gotten on my side of the fence!...lol
The mare never made any bag until I got her and the colt to the barn... So here is what I received for my efforts at a rescue attempt...A hell of a surprise.
Jim
JimWeber

Alliance, NE

#31 Oct 13, 2010
I will stick up for EPONA any day. Don't take my word for it ask the local law enforcement. LIN has nothing to hide. I admire her endeavors. Her honesty and sincerity. Most of all she cares.
You who condemned her on here aren't without thought on my part.
You wrongfully accused this person of neglect, hoarding in your belief, and abuse. You Slandered her name and you stand in the way of ever being a true horse rescuer. Your better off not owning a horse.
I have not given any names out here of the people who contacted me.
But, if you go through this forum, the guilty parties can be readily identified.
Someone needs to print this out for Epona's benefit if she pursues the slander and erroneous allegations made about her efforts.
I can't wait to shake her hand someday.
I did my part to prove her innocence, the rest of you need to learn to trust and be educated.
I'm 58 years old, happily married for 35 years to my high school sweetheart and I am disabled from an accident I sustained while working for a municipality.
I raise a few cows, own a few horses, take in cattle on pasture, and take in hunters on a lease aspect. I have worked hard on habitat improvement on our small ranch in Morrill County, served in the armed forces for 12 years, hold 4 honorable discharges and worked as a ranch hand, plumber, meat cutter, butcher and in a factory. I've raised all kinds of livestock and broke horses.
I have 2 wonderful girls both of which are happily married and 2 good looking grandsons who took after their grandpa(ME) and are going to know their grandpa stood up for what was good and kind in this life. I've been there, seen it and done it and have nothing to hide. You can check with local law enforcement about my honesty, the worst crime I ever committed was shooting too many ducks as a kid. I haven't had a speeding ticket in a long time, never served time for any crime and believe in individual rights and the freedom this country provides. I don't support OBAMA, and I'm a Christian.
I serve on the local rural planning commission by appointment of the County Commissioners and my life is an open book.
I have nothing to gain by supporting Epona except I'm proud to know she is honest. What more can I possibly say?
Jim
Admirer of a thankless jo

Hernando, MS

#32 Oct 13, 2010
Jim, thanks for your honest post. Epona makes every effort to take the best care of what she has. She is a rescue above many in that she doesn't turn a horse away because it is sick, old or lame like some others. Last year she went thru the same harassment. They complained she had over 100 horses and they were being neglected and were thin and starving. The pics I have show very healthy horses (healthier looking than mine :)) And loved beyond what any of these bashers show towards a house. The sheriff found absolutely no wrong doing and ample hay, yet they say the hay is for looks - Now that is quite the joke. Tell them the sky is blue and they will still argue. The horses that were stated to be HUMANELY euthanized was recommended by a vet and before winter as it cause hardhip. Don't they realize not everything needs to live forever. Why is it ok for an owner to do that or another rescue, but yet not Epona? Why is it that a vet with job shadows comes out and looks at all the teeth and floats is not good enough for them. Give the crabbers a million and they will want 2 - just nothing will be good enough for them.

I for one believe that if no one is willing to donate or adopt then they should be euthanized and I don't care how many there are.

There is just wayy too much blind complaining from these people. To me they are the animal abusers.

I have picked up horse from another rescue that was initially transferred from Epona. 50 to 100 pounds underweight under that rescues care - but no one complained about that rescue.

Epona's only downfall is she keeps info like an "open book" where others supply very little info. I took the time today to browse other rescue sites. Some have the exact same horses on there they did over a year ago. I've head rumors in the horse world about a rescue in Iowa that "secretly" sends some to the auction. Don't see me bashing them all over the place. Why is that. Cuz I'm smarter than that.

Jim, I am united with you in my support for Epona. Just heard another well known rescue shut down this week due to....YEP Lack of Financially support - they were in the red and didn't have someone like Lin putting her own money into the cause. Horse.com posted an article about the demise of rescues and the financial struggles they are enduring in this kind of economy and a true lack of support.

I too believe in controlled slaughter to complete the cycle of life -support the zoos!
Admirer of a thankless jo

United States

#33 Oct 14, 2010
Lin of Epona, stand strong and don't worry about the bad fruit - it is truly the horses that count not their ignorance.
JimWeber

Alliance, NE

#34 Oct 14, 2010
Last night and the night before I watched the rescue attempt in Chile on television.
When I saw the little boy start crying and rushing into his brave fathers arms, when "Super Mario" started hugging the people in the crowd and chanting the soccer theme, when miners who had been buried alive for 70 days fell to their knees in prayer after climbing out of the rescue capsule, offering their lives up to their God in supplication and doing so knowing the whole world was watching I felt pretty good. Some dust must have gotten in my eyes because they were watering for some reason. Funny it happened at the same time wasn't it?
I also slept pretty good knowing that in some way, that I set something right concerning this matter of the accusations against Epona .
The world really isn't such a bad place is it?
Never be afraid to stick up for the truth.
JimWeber

“Stop Horse Slaughter”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#35 Oct 15, 2010
Funny how once the FACTS are presented there is no more response from the cowardly accusers. Carolyn J Folsom is making allegations and presenting lies that will get her in serious trouble.

Here is the insanity in a PUBLIC forum that is copied and pasted just not in her ugly blue ink!

Good evening/morning to you all. Yes, it is a small victory that the Buffalo Sheriff finally went out there, like I said, they said "they found nothing wrong". I highly doubt that they had any true equine people on the ground and trust me, I know Lin personally, I know how she can spin a story. She's quite good at lying. Even though they "found nothing wrong" I still take it as a small victory in the right step because we at the very least have photos now. If anything more occurs then at the very least there are baseline photos in a file to be viewed at a later date.

No doubt Lin knows that it's me that sent the Sheriff and quite frankly I don't care if she knows. In fact I'm glad she knows and I'm glad that she comes over here to read because I have a message just for her:

Lin, I WILL NOT STOP until I either have Ginger back or I know the truth of what you did to her. Mark my words. You have no idea of what kind of a war you have started with me. This is only the beginning, trust me when I tell you that. You sent me a nasty threatening email last week telling me to stop and you were going to have the sheriff call me, your attorney call me and you were even going to call my boss .. as if. Well to date, no one has called me. A few days after I replied to you telling you that I'm not scared of you .. well, because I'm NOT, I even offered to call your attorney on your behalf in case they were too busy to call me, because really, I'd LOVE to have a conversation with your attorney, not much else would make me so happy right now. Then you told everyone on ABR that I'm the one that sent you a nasty threatening email. You didn't count on Jayne going to Dallas last weekend for the ABR party and her telling them the truth about EPONA or your nasty emails to me, now did ya? Didn't see that one coming down the pike, hu?

You see Lin, you THINK you have everyone in the whole wide world in your back pocket, but in reality, you don't. You really don't. Additionally Lin, unlike you, I don't care what people think of me, they can call me all the nasty hateful names they want to because here's the real difference between you and me, my story NEVER changes about Ginger, yours does depending on which lie you're trying to cover up or remember that you told. I don't care if anyone thinks I'm a bitch, liar, nutcase, whatever, I'm here for one reason and one reason only, to find out the truth about Ginger.

This is ALL ABOUT GINGER, you don't seem to understand or grasp that concept very well. Not too bright are ya? This is my justice for her and I hate to tell you this Lin, but I'm just starting to blow up the ballons and putting up the streamers on this party. This party is just getting started. You don't seem to grasp that very well either. I will NOT STOP as you have directed me to and I will NOT quit telling people the truth about you, your lame ass excuse for a husband, the shit hole you call a house and what you have done to my sweet dear beloved horse or what you're doing to the horses in your care now. By the time I get done with you Lin, I'll make sure you don't even so much as own an ant farm let alone one with real animals. Oh and Lin, this is NOT a threat, this is a promise. You have no idea of the resolve I have to bring justice for Ginger in me. NOT A FRICKING CLUE!

“Stop Horse Slaughter”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#37 Oct 15, 2010
Sorry first post is end of insane ramblings Original first part of the post vanished-Here is the beginning of the post by her Carolyn J Folsom.
SweetMuzzleKisses wrote: Good evening/morning to you all. Yes, it is a small victory that the Buffalo Sheriff finally went out there, like I said, they said "they found nothing wrong". I highly doubt that they had any true equine people on the ground and trust me, I know Lin personally, I know how she can spin a story. She's quite good at lying. Even though they "found nothing wrong" I still take it as a small victory in the right step because we at the very least have photos now. If anything more occurs then at the very least there are baseline photos in a file to be viewed at a later date.
No doubt Lin knows that it's me that sent the Sheriff and quite frankly I don't care if she knows. In fact I'm glad she knows and I'm glad that she comes over here to read because I have a message just for her:
Lin, I WILL NOT STOP until I either have Ginger back or I know the truth of what you did to her. Mark my words. You have no idea of what kind of a war you have started with me. This is only the beginning, trust me when I tell you that. You sent me a nasty threatening email last week telling me to stop and you were going to have the sheriff call me, your attorney call me and you were even going to call my boss .. as if. Well to date, no one has called me. A few days after I replied to you telling you that I'm not scared of you .. well, because I'm NOT, I even offered to call your attorney on your behalf in case they were too busy to call me, because really, I'd LOVE to have a conversation with your attorney, not much else would make me so happy right now. Then you told everyone on ABR that I'm the one that sent you a nasty threatening email. You didn't count on Jayne going to Dallas last weekend for the ABR party and her telling them the truth about EPONA or your nasty emails to me, now did ya? Didn't see that one coming down the pike, hu?
You see Lin, you THINK you have everyone in the whole wide world in your back pocket, but in reality, you don't. You really don't. Additionally Lin, unlike you, I don't care what people think of me, they can call me all the nasty hateful names they want to because here's the real difference between you and me, my story NEVER changes about Ginger, yours does depending on which lie you're trying to cover up or remember that you told. I don't care if anyone thinks I'm a bitch, liar, nutcase, whatever, I'm here for one reason and one reason only, to find out the truth about Ginger.
This is ALL ABOUT GINGER, you don't seem to understand or grasp that concept very well. Not too bright are ya? This is my justice for her and I hate to tell you this Lin, but I'm just starting to blow up the ballons and putting up the streamers on this party. This party is just getting started. You don't seem to grasp that very well either. I will NOT STOP as you have directed me to and I will NOT quit telling people the truth about you, your lame ass excuse for a husband, the shit hole you call a house and what you have done to my sweet dear beloved horse or what you're doing to the horses in your care now. By the time I get done with you Lin, I'll make sure you don't even so much as own an ant farm let alone one with real animals. Oh and Lin, this is NOT a threat, this is a promise. You have no idea of the resolve I have to bring justice for Ginger in me. NOT A FRICKING CLUE!
(insert comment Ginger is an old mare that passed away at Epona , this crazy woman used to own her)

“Stop Horse Slaughter”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#38 Oct 15, 2010
Bravo, you have a soul and thank you for your kindness to Epona..

Since: Aug 10

Pagosa Springs, CO

#39 Oct 16, 2010
LOL you can call me all the names you want to. And I'm a so called coward? At least I have the guts to post my real name. Additionally, I have many, many people that agree with me that Lin is a hoarder. I'm just calling at as I see it. NONE OF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT TO LIN'S PLACE TO SEE THIS IN PERSON, SEVERAL OF US HAVE AND ALL HAVE THE SAME THEORY ... THAT LIN IS A HOARDER. If you want to call me names, that's fine, go ahead, do it, I really don't care. Honestly, I don't. In the end we'll see who's right and who is wrong. If you want to prove me wrong, go out there and see for yourselves. I'm not sure if the Sheriff's office indeed had any knowledgeable equine people out there and if you know Lin the way I know Lin, she's great a spinning a story in her own directtion.

Since: Aug 10

Pagosa Springs, CO

#40 Oct 16, 2010
By the way Lin, coming on here as someone other than yourself doesn't count for trying to discredit me. Sorry, nice try.

As far as Jim, well I do have to thank for you at least getting the Buffalo County Sheriff out there to at least take a look around. Jayne who picked up Sadie and is an equine professional in both training and vet tech has been to EPONA and agrees with me. I think before you make up your final mind on this that if you're in that area you at the very least go check it out for yourself as I know you are an experienced rancher and horse owner.
JimWeber

Alliance, NE

#41 Oct 18, 2010
I have done all I could on this matter. I found the truth about the situation at Epona and I feel I did as much as can be humanely possible in this case.
I would have shut this rescue down any way I could have if things had been found the way you stated.
Why don't you tell the truth about your 30 year old horse? Why don't you talk to the sheriff and why don't you go look at the pictures they took?
Absolutely nothing you said on this forum was in any way, shape or form the truth. You wasted my time and more importantly you slandered someone who is at least trying to save some horses.
I suggest you never own a horse again if you cannot deal with the responsibility it takes to take an animal on.
I have no problem with someone selling a horse at an auction, nor do I have a problem with someone putting a horse down if the horse is suffering, a renegade or has been subjected to the symptoms of old age.
Why anyone throws money away on symptomatically critical, injured, lame horses goes beyond my
train of thought. There are way too many good horses in need of care that will and can survive through a little care and responsibility. To waste rescue funds and cause so much dissention over a thirty year old, dead any day , expired horse is stupid.
Cold , hard and tactless on my part, but it is the way I feel.
Your horse is in a better place now thanks to the care and thoughtfulness of Lin and Epona, live with it!
There is no excuse for starving or neglecting a horse in any manner. Free feed is available, and people will come and pick up a horse that is in dire straights. Be mature and responsible enough to at least ask for help. That's all part of practicing good stewardship, any other "excuse" is just ignorance.
JimWeber
JimWeber

Alliance, NE

#42 Oct 18, 2010
Call on me anytime if you need a situation looked at concerning abuse and neglect of any livestock. Do so in a responsible manner and not in a situation that in all truth is just trying to settle a vendetta.
You need to go on with your life and apologize and at least make amends to Epona in someway.
If I know Lin in any fashion after this fiasco, I would bet she could at least show you how she chooses to take care of horses in a fashion that has the horses best interests in heart.
I'm out of here. I got better things to do than settle disputes that aren't even neccessary.
I'll still be watching and the invitation goes out to ask me for help in any case, it's easier getting at the truth than anyone can imagine if you use common sense.
JimWeber

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