Despite raid, high-end knockoffs stil...

Despite raid, high-end knockoffs still available

There are 21 comments on the AMNY story from Feb 26, 2008, titled Despite raid, high-end knockoffs still available. In it, AMNY reports that:

Members of the NYPD and the Mayor's Office of Special Enforcement confiscate more than $1 million dollars worth of counterfeit Gucci, Prada, Fendi, Rolex and Coach goods during an early morning raid 234-238 ...

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Observant

New York, NY

#1 Feb 26, 2008
The cops should shut down the whole of filthy Canal Street and arrest everyone who is selling counterfeit goods. The fact that they're back selling this crap immediately after the cops closed them down shows how much respect they have for the law and how confident they are that this will be a half hearted operation for show.

That whole street is a disgrace. Nobody takes any pride in their stores, it's just identical unit after identical unit selling exactly the same fake crap. Have you ever come out of the 6-line subway onto Canal Street during the day? There are around 6 or 7 Chinese women who crowd the top of the stairs and hassle everyone who comes up the stairs to come into their store to look at their fake goods. The whole place looks disgusting, it's filthy and full of trash and roaches.

This is just a show bust. The cops don't give a damn. I've seen them buying the fake sh*t themselves. I've seen them all over the city looking at and buying counterfeit DVD's. They even stand by as Mexican women sell the DVD's on subway platforms with their kid in stroller nearby.

They could easily shut down virtually every store on Canal Street and arrest all of the owners. They could also dig deeper and arrest the suppliers of this crap - many of them have links to terrorist groups. This was found a couple of years ago and they STILL do little to stop it.

Also the African guys who peddle crap in huge trash bags should be run off the streets as well. They are always creating obstructions on the sidewalk as dumbass tourists crowd around them to see what fake handbags and sunglasses they have on offer. Most of these sunglasses have no UV rating as advertised and will literally damage your corneas if you wear them in the sun, as the darkness opens your pupils and lets in more UV. I've also seen these guys fighting over space.

Mark my words, this half hearted "bust" was all for the sake of the media, in a couple of weeks it'll be business as usual.
Julus May

Redwood City, CA

#2 Feb 26, 2008
The police should do something about the fake watches videos and purses sold by those africans out in the open in Battery Park around where the statue of liberty tours takes place.
MR OY

Brooklyn, NY

#3 Feb 27, 2008
Where are these things made? Probably China. Why do we let this crap come into the country. Raid, Raid, Raid and keep on raiding until they're out of there. Arrest these people, don't give summonses. NYPD should take a cut of the value to finance raids so it wouldn't cost us tax payers.
Dierdre

Shrub Oak, NY

#4 Feb 27, 2008
I hope they continue to sell. There is something abnormal about a society (the fashionistas) that manufacturs a bag made in China (with slave wages) for three dollars and sells it for 300 or 3,000. No matter what your name is. Gucci = greedy. Why do we buy such high priced garbage anyway. It is an affront to humanity and those starving in America and elsewhere.
Observant

New York, NY

#5 Feb 27, 2008
Dierdre wrote:
I hope they continue to sell. There is something abnormal about a society (the fashionistas) that manufacturs a bag made in China (with slave wages) for three dollars and sells it for 300 or 3,000. No matter what your name is. Gucci = greedy. Why do we buy such high priced garbage anyway. It is an affront to humanity and those starving in America and elsewhere.
You pay for the design. Like it or not, those designers have property rights on their design and to copy it is theft. Your figures are just comical exaggerations to make a point. People can spend their money on what they like, it has nothing to do with you. Why not go an live in Venezuela, it sounds like you'd be happier there.

Property rights are the cornerstone of civilization. If you designed something and copyrighted it and others stole it for their own benefit, you'd be upset too.
Stating the Obvious

AOL

#6 Feb 27, 2008
Dierdre wrote:
I hope they continue to sell. There is something abnormal about a society (the fashionistas) that manufacturs a bag made in China (with slave wages) for three dollars and sells it for 300 or 3,000. No matter what your name is. Gucci = greedy. Why do we buy such high priced garbage anyway. It is an affront to humanity and those starving in America and elsewhere.
There is something abnormal with your thinking... It is wrong to buy a real bag for $3,000 but NOT wrong to buy illegal merchandise?

If people are so offended that these companies pay slave wages (WHATEVER), there are starving people, blah, blah, blah... then why buy a fake of that product? What I mean is, if you think Gucci is so wrong for what they do, why buy a fake Gucci??? Why not buy a no-name, fake leather, eco friendly bag???
Elbow100

Hamilton, Bermuda

#7 Feb 27, 2008
I don't know any teenager who is asking for a rolex....
Trademark Trasher

Brooklyn, NY

#9 Feb 27, 2008
Brand names vacuum the wallets of fools and counterfeiters perform a useful public service in devaluing such garbage.

Anyone with a patent, copyright or trademark registration is cordially invited to roll it real tight and insert it where the sun doesn't shine.
Stating the Obvious

AOL

#10 Feb 27, 2008
Trademark Trasher wrote:
Brand names vacuum the wallets of fools and counterfeiters perform a useful public service in devaluing such garbage.
Anyone with a patent, copyright or trademark registration is cordially invited to roll it real tight and insert it where the sun doesn't shine.
Spoken like a true trashbag!
mla

Tenafly, NJ

#11 Feb 27, 2008
Dierdre.

It's FOOLISH to pay 2 grand for a dog carrier, It is ILLEGAL to buy a knockoff. Two different things. You're allowed to be foolish.
average joe

Great Neck, NY

#12 Feb 27, 2008
No arrests were made why not Mr. Kelly?
yyy

Charlotte, NC

#13 Feb 27, 2008
there perfume is fake an expensive bottle evaporated in a month they have been doing this for years everyone walks around with fake stuff thats why i will not buy designer bags iam embaressed for people to think my goods are fake as well but then again if ny wasnt so dame expensive to live in people would not be crooked as they are thats coming from a native ny er
Reverse search

Wantagh, NY

#14 Feb 28, 2008
We watch fake people living fake lives on TV.

Woman use breast implants that appear to the average person as the real deal. They are nothing but fake, knock offs.

My wife bought some hair at a fair to use as a spare. It's not really her hair... it's fake.

So, if someone with fake breats and fake hair wants to carry a fake bag, why should I care?
former New Yoker

Hyattsville, MD

#15 Feb 28, 2008
"Counterfeit goods cheat the city, consumers, legitimate business owners, and trademark holders and their proliferation is standing in the way of the revitalization of Chinatown," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said at a news conference.

I don't think it is cheating the city because if people wanted to buy the real thing they would. These, I think, are really for the people who do not have or want to spend that much money on a bag or watch but like the look of the product or want people to think they have the real thing. The people with money or those who want the real deal will still buy that one - not the knock-off. The real companies are not going out out of business any time soon and I'm sure they are not showing losses at the end of the quarter.
Stating the Obvious

AOL

#16 Feb 28, 2008
Reverse search wrote:
We watch fake people living fake lives on TV.
Woman use breast implants that appear to the average person as the real deal. They are nothing but fake, knock offs.
My wife bought some hair at a fair to use as a spare. It's not really her hair... it's fake.
So, if someone with fake breats and fake hair wants to carry a fake bag, why should I care?
Genius... the implants, hair, etc. IS NOT ILLEGAL!!!
Former Investigator

United States

#17 Feb 28, 2008
The raid on Tuesday February 26 by the NYPD is nothing more than a little show for the media. A couple of years ago I worked as an investigator for a private firm specializing in counterfeit enforcement directly hired by the brands being counterfeited and I worked in many cases for 4, 6 months up to even a year, before any raids would be conducted. As much as I like, respect and regard the NYPD as a great police dept, they should know better than wasting their time in Canal St.

Most of the raids conducted during my time as an investigator were not even in Canal St, these individuals have merchandise stored in private homes, public storage facilities, and other businesses around Canal St. The Police seize 1 Million in goods, while they have 20+ Million worth of merchandise hidden all around Chinatown. It’s just like narcotics… why waste time on street dealers, when you can go for the distributor or manufacturer.

Truth is counterfeiting hurts our economy in more ways than you can imagine, and by the way the people that sell this fakes on the streets, usually make more money in a day than many of us “tax free and all cash” if that does not bother you, I don’t know what will.

Steve A. Sunnyside, New York
mea

Belle Glade, FL

#18 Mar 28, 2008
alot of people buy knockoff because its cheap but some people just dont care
NYPD

Pawling, NY

#19 Mar 13, 2009
the cops in the chinatown precint are corrupted anyway they seize the bags and sold it to others.
Brad

New York, NY

#20 Mar 29, 2009
Let me tell you all something. I am a tourist and I came to New York for the thrill of it all. And to buy a new watch if I found one I liked. Why should I give some Swiss company $10,000 for a watch, money that will not help our economy, money that will not feed our childrens mouths, money that won't help our daily lives. I would much rather find a really nice watch for a few hundred that I first of all, can buy here in America, second the shop owner will most likely be spending the $200 or so that I spend on the watch in the US which WILL help our economy. It will help our nation. And it will help you. And that poor old man sitting in a tiny room patching names on bags...ya I feel sorry for him. But he should have kept his ass in China, or Mexico, or wherever the heck he came from. But regardless he has a job, probably a place to sleep at night, and food to eat. More than I can say for all of the homeless bums that I see in the subway.

Counterfeiting creates jobs in the US, creates capital to be spent in the US, and makes obtaining something that I would never be able to have, a Patek Phillipe watch I just bought for $200, that would retail for around $28,000, possible. Whether you all like it or not, counterfeiting is something that will always happen, here and everywhere else.

And if everyone else would just remember that time you cheated on a test, or copied a paragraph out of a book for your essay; you all would see that you are counterfeiters as well. So think about it then go down to Chinatown or to Times Square and get that watch you have always been wanting and help out OUR economy, OUR nation, and OUR people.
Chinese outcompeting

Brooklyn, NY

#21 Sep 13, 2009
America is simply no longer productive or competitive with its goods anymore. I also think its service sector is beginning to suffer as well.
Imagine a country much larger than the size of Japan producing goods of the same high quality. This will happen in the future.
I can't forsee America being protectionist, we will shoot ourselves in the foot if we head into that direction.

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