Miss. town stunned by slaying of mayo...

Miss. town stunned by slaying of mayoral candidate

There are 537 comments on the WAVE-TV Louisville story from Feb 28, 2013, titled Miss. town stunned by slaying of mayoral candidate. In it, WAVE-TV Louisville reports that:

Whatever his prospects for winning the coming mayoral election in his hometown of Clarksdale, Miss., Marco McMillian was considered by many to be a man on the rise.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#139 Mar 1, 2013
snyper wrote:
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It was called "The Mississippi Wall".
Well it's still standing, that's for sure!

What a god-awful place Mississippi is; not fit for man nor beast- only Republicans.

I really don't understand how blacks can still live there. But then again, many blacks still live in Detroit, and I can't for the life of me understand that either!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#140 Mar 1, 2013
Oh, maybe we can relocate all the blacks from Mississippi (and everywhere below the Manson-Nixon line) to Detroit & Cleveland & Buffalo & Philadelphia etc. They can repopulate those cities and make them productive again.
Clayton Leon Winton

Spokane, WA

#143 Mar 2, 2013
Nobody said anything about the family; about Marco's friends, fans, those that loved him. I DID.

To claim being Gay has "nothing to do with it" is the ultimate insult. Had he been a "big burly football player-sized man" he would not have been such an EASY TARGET.

Had this country protected the meek, the weak, we Gays and others who are not violent, not aggressive, instead of promoting ad hominem as "new, improved, bigger, better, brighter, whiter" EDUCATION REFORM, then Marco would be alive, thriving, prosperous, pursuing happiness, life and LIBERTY.

The bullies in these internet topic-discussion forums prove what our Higher Education "reforms" are truly about: being meaner, so Universities can sell more careers, fulfill all their taxpayer-subsidies promises, profiting from atop the rubble, misery and grief of their own instigation.

-- just like when HigherEd said they would "improve test scores," and "graduation rates," -- they gutted PublicEd, reduced criteria to fake "higher scores," graduates less capable of being prepared for WORK THAN EVER -- anything of VALUE now a PRODUCT to be SOLD from the same Universities and colleges, and tech-schools, by legislation, at taxpayer expense, and the student (or Employers) must pay for it too.

Marco's murder proves our Education 'reforms,' our systems, all of 'em, are failures, not "successes," not "random mishaps."

That's the "change" you 'believed in', hook, line, and blind-faith sinker.

It's time to hold HigherEd accountable for their failures, and stop patting 'em on the back, endlessly cheerleading their paperFAKEwork as "resource conservation". Who concocted Trillion Dollar Debts? Workers? Moms? Disableds? Gangs? Drug Cartels? Gays?

Think about it.

Kind Regards,
Clayton Leon Winton
Clayton Leon Winton

Spokane, WA

#144 Mar 2, 2013
Meanwhile, those engaged in ad hom, incapable of discussing topics, just spewing insults towards any/all persons attempting free-expression about topics, are flirting with the enemies of freedom;

-- are promoting the ideals of al Qaida, who share YOUR WORDS and gain thousands of new followers daily, worldwide.

-- allied with the fringe-radical groupds, foreign and domestic.

YOU ARE HELPING ONLY THAT, proving your 'flag-waving' is about getting more of our brave men and women throughout the world who defend freedom, killed.

-- ultimately instigating another attack on our own soil, or the soil of our allies, Israel specifically.

That's what YOU DO. Not me.

Please re-evaluate your communications; just because 'the war' isn't blowing-up bombs on your street, doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and that war continues while you aide and abet the enemy.

Kind Regards,
Clayton Leon Winton

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#145 Mar 2, 2013
You don't play, do ya, Clayton!
droppingsomeknow ledge

Indianola, MS

#146 Mar 4, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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So they're framing another young black man? Why am I not suprised.
Now bring on the all white jury of his "peers" and convict him and hang him all in the same day.
Yep, that'll hide the truth.
Not likely. The area where this occurred is majority black. You yanks sure do talk out of your rears a lot.

If you want a real hate crime, what about the old white woman in Clarksdale that was recently robbed and burned to death in her own home? Yeah didn't hear much about that one did you?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#147 Mar 4, 2013
droppingsomeknowledge wrote:
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Not likely. The area where this occurred is majority black. You yanks sure do talk out of your rears a lot.
If you want a real hate crime, what about the old white woman in Clarksdale that was recently robbed and burned to death in her own home? Yeah didn't hear much about that one did you?
Having trouble with the legal definition and criteria for a "hate crime" ?
droppingsomeknow ledge

Indianola, MS

#148 Mar 5, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Having trouble with the legal definition and criteria for a "hate crime" ?
I believe each state is different, and MS does not include sexuality in its statute if I'm not mistaken.

This crime was black on black and more than likely gay on gay, so the hate crime statute will not be applied. The hate crime legislation is biased towards whites, whether or not so called hate was a factor in crimes or not. It's targeted at any white who commits a crime against a non-white. So, I understand the statute fully.

“Alley Cat Blues”

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#150 Mar 5, 2013
droppingsomeknowledge wrote:
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I believe each state is different, and MS does not include sexuality in its statute if I'm not mistaken.
This crime was black on black and more than likely gay on gay, so the hate crime statute will not be applied. The hate crime legislation is biased towards whites, whether or not so called hate was a factor in crimes or not. It's targeted at any white who commits a crime against a non-white. So, I understand the statute fully.
It doesn't appear that you do. A hate crime is a crime in which someone is targeted ONLY because they are of a specific race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. If a white man robs a black man, it is not a hate crime, it is simply a crime because the reason for the crime was robbery -- to get money or other items -- and not because the victim was black. If he attacks the man simply because he hates black people, it is a hate crime. There is a difference.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#151 Mar 5, 2013
droppingsomeknowledge wrote:
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I believe each state is different, and MS does not include sexuality in its statute if I'm not mistaken.
This crime was black on black and more than likely gay on gay, so the hate crime statute will not be applied. The hate crime legislation is biased towards whites, whether or not so called hate was a factor in crimes or not. It's targeted at any white who commits a crime against a non-white. So, I understand the statute fully.
Hate crime legislation is FEDERAL. One definition and one set of criteria.
Linda

Melbourne, AR

#152 Mar 5, 2013
Hate crimes only apply to white people and straight people how biased is that. The hate crime law is a bunch of one sided BS, What ever someone did to be charged with a hate crime is already illegal we don't need any more laws. Its just another appeasement for blacks and gays.

“Alley Cat Blues”

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#153 Mar 5, 2013
Linda wrote:
Hate crimes only apply to white people and straight people how biased is that. The hate crime law is a bunch of one sided BS, What ever someone did to be charged with a hate crime is already illegal we don't need any more laws. Its just another appeasement for blacks and gays.
Not necessarily; what if someone attacked you just because you are a woman, or just because you are of a certain religion?
droppingsomeknow ledge

Indianola, MS

#154 Mar 5, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Hate crime legislation is FEDERAL. One definition and one set of criteria.
Its implemented differently per state, however. The way a hate crime works, local authorities determine based upon evidence if it warrants the hate crime statue-they have the say and make the determination.
droppingsomeknow ledge

Indianola, MS

#155 Mar 5, 2013
Jupiter wrote:
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It doesn't appear that you do. A hate crime is a crime in which someone is targeted ONLY because they are of a specific race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. If a white man robs a black man, it is not a hate crime, it is simply a crime because the reason for the crime was robbery -- to get money or other items -- and not because the victim was black. If he attacks the man simply because he hates black people, it is a hate crime. There is a difference.
There are attacks by blacks on whites often, but rarely are blacks charged under hate crime statute. Why? It does not apply to blacks and Eric Holder has stated such.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#156 Mar 5, 2013
droppingsomeknowledge wrote:
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There are attacks by blacks on whites often, but rarely are blacks charged under hate crime statute. Why? It does not apply to blacks and Eric Holder has stated such.
Apparently, that is a local decision, eh?
droppingsomeknow ledge

Indianola, MS

#157 Mar 5, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Apparently, that is a local decision, eh?
Investigating officers determine based on evidence if the suspect(s) warrant a hate crime charge-so they in essence do decide.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#158 Mar 5, 2013
Linda wrote:
Hate crimes only apply to white people and straight people how biased is that. The hate crime law is a bunch of one sided BS, What ever someone did to be charged with a hate crime is already illegal we don't need any more laws. Its just another appeasement for blacks and gays.
Wrong. All people are covered under the categories of race, religion, and whatever other categories are included. When sexual orientation is covered, that includes heterosexual and bisexual people as well as gay women and men. Black people have been charged with hate crimes for attacking white people when the motivation for the attack is racial hate.

Hate crimes are enhancements of crimes already on the books, based on motivation for the crime.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#159 Mar 5, 2013
Motivation has always been a consideration in determining the seriousness of the crime and the severity of the punishment.

Not all crimes are motivated by hate. Crimes of need, neglect, greed, or crimes of opportunity often do not involve any hate for the victim, and we sometimes see perpetrators who at the time of the crime are apologetic for the crime they are committing.

Crimes of passion are a result of uncontrolled anger, but not necessarily hate for the victim, and not for the entire group to which the victim belongs.

Hate crimes are not based merely on neglect, need, greed, opportunity, or emotional outburst, or even hate for an individual, but are the result of hate for an entire group of people. Hate crimes therefore have the effect and usually the intent, of intimidating, terrorizing, and punishing an entire community, not just the direct victim.

That makes them very different from crimes of neglect, need, greed, opportunity, passion, or even hate for a specific individual. Motivation and intent to harm and terrorize have always been considerations.

Writing specific prohibitions into the law such as hate crime enhancements, clearly establishes community standards, and in doing so, helps remove the motivation and justification used by ideology assailants to harm others.

"Ideology assailants report that their crimes stem from their negative beliefs and attitudes about homosexuality that they perceive other people in the community share. They see themselves as enforcing social morals." (APA)

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#160 Mar 5, 2013
droppingsomeknowledge wrote:
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Investigating officers determine based on evidence if the suspect(s) warrant a hate crime charge-so they in essence do decide.
It is the District Attorney who files the charges with the court.

They use the police report as evidence, but can request more evidence or use their own investigators as well.

It is the DA who determines what charges are appropriate and what charges they can prove in court. They are not bound by the arresting charges.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#161 Mar 5, 2013
droppingsomeknowledge wrote:
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Its implemented differently per state, however. The way a hate crime works, local authorities determine based upon evidence if it warrants the hate crime statue-they have the say and make the determination.
31 states include sexual orientation in their hate crime statutes, but now that sexual orientation is covered by federal statute, the feds can intervene if they feel it is necessary and justified.

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