Miss. lawmakers pass religious-practi...

Miss. lawmakers pass religious-practices bill

There are 304 comments on the Visalia Times-Delta story from Apr 2, 2014, titled Miss. lawmakers pass religious-practices bill. In it, Visalia Times-Delta reports that:

A bill that opponents say would legalize discrimination in Mississippi was approved by the state Legislature on Tuesday and now awaits action by the governor.

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#1 Apr 2, 2014
The new face of Jim Crow.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#2 Apr 2, 2014
More sleazy religious activities from the evangelical reich; and probably a little white republican supremacy thrown into the toxic stew for emphasis. Religious superstition is not a license to engage in criminal activity
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Mississippi is a prime example of why GAY people are more popular than evangelical fundamentalists: We have LOVE. No ignorance or prejudice can hold back the Triumph of LOVE
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They have HATE
http://m0.i.pbase.com/o6/04/318004/1/73285000...

Since: Feb 10

Woodstock, Illinois

#3 Apr 2, 2014
Republicans and "Christians" have become experts at playing the victim. They have convinced themselves that they are being persecuted and use that as an excuse to persecute others.

Hopefully they will one day emerge from the rabbit hole.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#4 Apr 2, 2014
Ron431 wrote:
Republicans and "Christians" have become experts at playing the victim. They have convinced themselves that they are being persecuted and use that as an excuse to persecute others.
Hopefully they will one day emerge from the rabbit hole.
Never happen!
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Their level of mentality is what led them to torture and murder Jesus in cold blood; and now they 'eat of his flesh and drink of his blood' every Sunday morning in their tax subsidized churches
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Crazy people!

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#6 Apr 2, 2014
Buffer Zone wrote:
Democrats and "[email protected]" have become experts at playing the victim. They have convinced themselves that they are being persecuted and use that as an excuse to persecute others.
Hopefully they will one day emerge from the rabbit hole
What's it like living in a fantasy world?

Gay people not getting the same rights as straight people, being fired from jobs, and being refused service at businesses? "Playing the victim."

Conservative Christians being told they can't treat gay people poorly? Such persecution! It's like the Holocaust all over again!
Fundies R Mentally Nil

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Apr 2, 2014
Now Muslim owned businesses can insist that all women entering the premises wear at least a headscarf.

Thank Allah! I'm sure the talibangelicals will recognize this as fair play.
Christina

Mesa, AZ

#10 Apr 2, 2014
Buffer Zone wrote:
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Poor little Ho:mos, constantly whining about something. Take your act to Vegas, maybe it'll be a hit.
Take your bible and shove it up your tw at, you ignorant little bigoted little cu nt.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#12 Apr 2, 2014
If the Governor signs the bill into law, I have NO doubt that the ACLU will file the appropriate lawsuit challenging the Constitutionality of this Bill.......remember that there WILL be a ruling from SCOTUS regarding something like this with Hobby Lobby and even with Elaine's Photography.......somehow I believe it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and will be overturned if signed!!!

How can one's religious beliefs trump another's?

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#13 Apr 2, 2014
snyper wrote:
The new face of Jim Crow.
I say this is in direct response to the gay couple in Colorado being told to go somewhere else for their wedding cake.

Do you remember what the gay community did when Dan White was given a slap on the wrist for murdering Harvey Milk? We call that night the White Night Riots.

""""The White Night riots were a series of violent events sparked by an announcement of the lenient sentencing of Dan White, for the assassinations of San Francisco Mayor George Moscone and San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk. The events took place on the night of May 21, 1979 (the night before what would have been Milk's 49th birthday) in San Francisco. Earlier that day, White had been convicted of voluntary manslaughter, the lightest possible conviction for his actions.

The gay community of San Francisco had a longstanding conflict with the San Francisco Police Department. White's status as a former police officer intensified the community's anger at the SFPD. Initial demonstrations took place as a peaceful march through the Castro district of San Francisco. After the crowd arrived at the San Francisco City Hall, violence began. The events caused hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of property damage to City Hall and the surrounding area, as well as injuries to police officers and rioters.

Several hours after the riot had been broken up, police made a retaliatory raid on a gay bar in San Francisco's Castro District. Many patrons were beaten by police in riot gear. Two dozen arrests were made during the course of the raid, and several people later sued the SFPD.[1]

In the following days, gay leaders refused to apologize for the events of that night. This led to increased political power in the gay community, which culminated in the election of Mayor Dianne Feinstein to a full term, the following November. In response to a campaign promise, Feinstein appointed a pro-gay Chief of Police, which increased recruitment of gay people in the police force and eased tensions.""" "

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#14 Apr 2, 2014
Ron431 wrote:
Republicans and "Christians" have become experts at playing the victim. They have convinced themselves that they are being persecuted and use that as an excuse to persecute others.
Hopefully they will one day emerge from the rabbit hole.
It won't be any day soon. They are brainwashing their children that anyone who disagrees with them is wrong. Facts and evidence are irrelevant to them.

I keep telling gays they would be better off leaving them alone and avoiding them but then when I do I get called a homophobe. A lot of gays love the confrontation and things like this in Mississippi and elsewhere are a direct result.

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#15 Apr 2, 2014
NorCal Native wrote:
If the Governor signs the bill into law, I have NO doubt that the ACLU will file the appropriate lawsuit challenging the Constitutionality of this Bill.......remember that there WILL be a ruling from SCOTUS regarding something like this with Hobby Lobby and even with Elaine's Photography.......somehow I believe it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and will be overturned if signed!!!
How can one's religious beliefs trump another's?
You already know the answers to your questions NorCal. The Constitution does not authorize Congress the power to correct what we call Social Injustice.

If you believe that to be false, then please find where in the Constitution that it gives Congress the power to pass laws for the purpose of bringing about social change.

You seem to be incapable of putting yourself in the place of the bigots. And to understand the situation you need to do that. If not you only understand one side. Every coin has two sides.

The baker was in his shop minding his own business when in walks this gay couple asking him for a cake he did not make. They were "slighted" when told no, and went to the ACLU.

What is going on in Mississippi is in direct response to gay people demanding laws be written to allow them to force people to do things they do not want to do. You say you are against discrimination yet you discriminate against men when it comes to marriage partners. Oh but your kind of discrimination is different and justified. Yeah right.

When you advocate that people be forced to provide service to people they do not want to provide service to it is called slavery and not freedom. And they organize to get even.

Do you acknowldge that you discriminate against men when it comes to marriage?

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#16 Apr 2, 2014
NorCal Native wrote:
How can one's religious beliefs trump another's?
Your question shows you do not understand the situation.

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#17 Apr 2, 2014
Christina wrote:
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Take your bible and shove it up your tw at, you ignorant little bigoted little cu nt.
Well that certainly brings peace between gays and bigots!

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#18 Apr 2, 2014
Fundies R Mentally Nil wrote:
Now Muslim owned businesses can insist that all women entering the premises wear at least a headscarf.
Thank Allah! I'm sure the talibangelicals will recognize this as fair play.
Please explain what is fair play.

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#19 Apr 2, 2014
The_Box wrote:
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What's it like living in a fantasy world?
Gay people not getting the same rights as straight people, being fired from jobs, and being refused service at businesses? "Playing the victim."
Conservative Christians being told they can't treat gay people poorly? Such persecution! It's like the Holocaust all over again!
Christians are slowly accepting that gays should not be discriminated against. What they do not like are being told that they have no choice about who they rent their property to, or who they bake cakes for or who's hair they cut. More and more Christians are not having a problem with serving gays in every way, however when the government forces them to serve gays, especially things that are not on the menu, they feel their right to be left alone is being violated.

Does anyone in here understand what a right is?

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#20 Apr 2, 2014
Natural and legal rights are two types of rights: legal rights are those bestowed onto a person by a given legal system, while natural rights are those not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of any particular culture or government, and therefore universal and inalienable.

The theory of natural law is closely related to the theory of natural rights. During the Age of Enlightenment, natural law theory challenged the divine right of kings, and became an alternative justification for the establishment of a social contract, positive law, and government and thus legal rights in the form of classical republicanism.[dubious discuss][original research?][clarification needed] Conversely, the concept of natural rights is used by some anarchists to challenge the legitimacy of all such establishments.[1][2]

The idea of human rights is also closely related to that of natural rights: some acknowledge no difference between the two, regarding them as synonymous, while others choose to keep the terms separate to eliminate association with some features traditionally associated with natural rights.[3] Natural rights, in particular, are considered beyond the authority of any government or international body to dismiss. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights is an important legal instrument enshrining one conception of natural rights into international soft law. Natural rights were traditionally viewed as exclusively negative rights,[4] whereas human rights also comprise positive rights.[5] Even on a natural rights conception of human rights, the two terms may not be synonymous

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

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MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#21 Apr 2, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
Do you acknowldge that you discriminate against men when it comes to marriage?
No, I DON'T discriminate against men when it comes to marriage......I do have the RIGHT to marry the person of my choosing, which by the way I did:-)

Are you claiming that Gay men discriminate against women when it comes to marriage as well? And are you claiming that in order to end this supposed discrimination one MUST marry a person from each gender? Wouldn't a heterosexual man being considered discriminating against a Gay man, if he DIDN'T consider marrying one? See, this is what you call OKAY, when in reality NO such discrimination is taking place!!!

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#22 Apr 2, 2014
NorCal Native wrote:
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No, I DON'T discriminate against men when it comes to marriage......I do have the RIGHT to marry the person of my choosing, which by the way I did:-)
Are you claiming that Gay men discriminate against women when it comes to marriage as well? And are you claiming that in order to end this supposed discrimination one MUST marry a person from each gender? Wouldn't a heterosexual man being considered discriminating against a Gay man, if he DIDN'T consider marrying one? See, this is what you call OKAY, when in reality NO such discrimination is taking place!!!
I am trying to get you to see that you discriminate. So, you are bi-sexual and would be just as happy being married to a man. I didn't know that. Thanks for making it clear.

Yes, if you understood what discrimination was you would realize that gay men discriminate against women when it comes to marriage.

When you have Burger King on one corner, McDonalds on another, Taco Bell on a 3rd and Wendy's on a 4th, you discriminate when you choose one over the others.

I discriminate against bigot bakers by walking down the street to the gay owned bakery. Unlike gay people I do not want to give my money to bigots who think they speak for God.

How is keeping bigot bakeries open working out for the gay community?
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#23 Apr 2, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Christians are slowly accepting that gays should not be discriminated against. What they do not like are being told that they have no choice about who they rent their property to, or who they bake cakes for or who's hair they cut. More and more Christians are not having a problem with serving gays in every way, however when the government forces them to serve gays, especially things that are not on the menu, they feel their right to be left alone is being violated.
Does anyone in here understand what a right is?
Yes
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It is spelled out clearly in The Civil Rights Act of 1964: Title II - Public Accommodation
TITLE II--INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AGAINST DISCRIMINATION IN PLACES OF PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION
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SEC. 201.(a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.
http://www.citizensource.com/History/20thCen/...
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Mississippi's 'law' runs afoul of the Civil Rights Act of 1964
Fundies R Mentally Nil

Philadelphia, PA

#28 Apr 2, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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I keep telling gays they would be better off leaving them alone and avoiding them but then when I do I get called a homophobe.
No, you have been called an insane liar, not a homophobe.

As your typically whiny, distort-the-facts claim here shows again.

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