Men that are Not The Biological Father Still FORCED To Pay Child Support

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Since: May 09

Rural Randolph County

#1 May 5, 2009
As long as a few of Missouri's Ignorant Judges refuse to give a the Non Biological father any justice stories like the following will haunt us.

My son-in-law has been paying $450.00 per month for Child Support +$75.00 for Medical Insurance for the past 9 1/2 YEARS.
That's alot of money! 114 months of Child Support x $450-00 =$51,300-00 PLUS 114 months of Medical Insurance x $75.00 =$8550.00 for a to date total of $59,850.00.
I paid for a DNA test to prove his possibility of being the Biological Father. The results came back as NEGATIVE with a 0% chance of him being the father. The mother admitted in court, that she had a real good idea he was NOT the father when she had the child & listed him as the father! The mother can not recieve any welfare support due to the fact a few years ago, she was convicted of a felony drug charge. So, She relies on the child support!
Even with this information, The county Judge stated, You've been the childs father this long, you WILL continue to be & You WILL pay child support! The Judge said that Missouri will not "Bastardize" a child. My son-in-law even said the child could keep his last name if wanted just to keep anyone from knowing or considering it as fatherless. He had been involved with the childs mother then they broke up due to her cheating on him. Then about 3 months later, she wanted to try to make things work between them.... They were together for 2 days when she asked him, if I was pregnant w/ another mans child, would you raise it as if it were your own? He replied NO! They then broke up that day (She admitted in court, that they never got back together after that break-up). Needless to say 1 week later she popped a positive pregnancy test. She listed him as the father. Child Support Enforcement ordered him to pay $450.00 per month plus pay for medical Ins. and there's NOTHING he can do about it. Meanwhile, the childs mother boasts about how she screwed him & the system. She stated she picked him because she knew he would work & make good money vs the childs biological father. To date, Missouri Child Support Enforcement will not demand her for the true identity of the childs biological father.
The BAD part is, if he refuses to pay for someone elses child.... He will get sent to JAIL or PRISON! GREAT SYSTEM WE HAVE....NOT!!!!!
sigh

Farmington, MO

#2 May 14, 2009
Do you have any idea who the father is? Does he know who she cheated with?
Betty Turner

Memphis, TN

#3 Jul 20, 2009
My son has fallen victom to the same justice system. A female told him that he was the father of her child, and him wanting to do the right thing signed the birth certificate at the hospital, later to find out that the child was not his. He has been fighting the system now for 5 years to have this reversed, but the court refuse to make the mother appear in court. I paid for the DNA test to prove if the child was truely my son's and the test came back 0% chance. The court of course refursed to consider the test because it was not ordered or handled through the courts. My son has been screwed by the system and is now possible facing jail time if he does not pay support for a child he did not father which will take him form his biological daughter. Again I agree with you what type of justice system do we have that forces men to pay for someone else's responsibility.
Justice For Non Bios

South Bend, IN

#4 Sep 12, 2009
My name is Steve, from Elkhart Indiana, and I too have been paying child support for a child that is not my own. I have not seen this child in over 7 years, and his mother, who has admitted in court that she knowingly deceived me into believing I was the child's father, continues to graciously take $120.00 per week from me. She has been married for over 5 years, and her and her husband who reside in Texas have a daughter of their own. The husband however, even though he say's he is the only father the child has ever known, refuses to do a step parent adoption. My judge seems to have no problem treating me as the bad guy as well, even though Indiana will NOT tolerate fraud of any other sort. My judge even went so far as to throw out an affidavit signed by the biological father, who attempted to step forward in the matter about two years ago. This my fellow Americans, is not justice. This my fellow Americans, is not what the judicial system was implemented to do. This is a rising issue in the U.S., and it is morally & ethically curropt! Lets stand together, and make our voices heard.
Please visit my "Myspace" page http://www.myspace.com/justice4nonbio , to hear more about my story, share yours, and join together to make our voices heard!
frustrated

Lynnwood, WA

#5 Apr 25, 2010
I am in a complicated situation and need advice. My partner of 6 years is paying child support to a 7 year old child that is not biologically his. After he found out he immediately cut ties with the child because he thinks it would just hurt even more and she deserves to know the truth. also, he was never able to see the child on a regular basis. It was twice a month until he lost his job. We don't live together yet, but he has never had money for our son because he pays 400 a month to child support, again for a child who isn't biologically his. He lost his job in 7/2009 and they're now threatening him to suspend his license and of course back child support because he isn't paying right now. When he lost his job the mother told him since he's not paying he can't see the child. He had absolutely no idea this child wasn't his until the 2 year period was over. We also have no idea who the real father is. He did sign the birth certificate because he thought the child was his. The mother waited until she was 3 to put him on child support because they broke up when the child was only 6 months old. I guess that should have been a sign right there but we really didn't think anything of it. After we took one of those paternity test it came back 0% possibility. My boyfriend text and asked her if she ever cheated during their relationship and if there is any possibility that the child could not be his. She flat out lied and said she never cheated ever.... and There is no possible way the child is not his. I would never think to pin my children on another man, but apperently there are many out there who do.The mothers, child support and the state. I appreciate the laws in place to help those dads who run from their responsibilities. How about those victims such as my boyfriend who have been victimized by deceiving and lying mothers who now can't take care of their real children because they have to take care of another man's child? The state say it's about the child not money.. really? Child support wants money... state gets federal dollars because child support gets money.... Family court want money..... the mother wants money..... Mother is on state assistance so welfare wants money...non biological father will be put in jail if he doesn't pay money.. and its not about money? So they say it's about the child.. Yes absolutely the child is going to be hurt just like the father. Is it the father's fault? No it's the mother. Is teaching the child to live a lie ok? No it's not.. What if something medically happened to that child and she needed a donor or something and there is no biological father to save her life? Doesn't she have the right to know who she really is and where she came from. Part of who we are biologically also has to do with family medical history... Does she not have that right? Since we're talking about best interest of the child.. How about the victim's real children who have to go without because money is going out of the home? They are children involved so why are their best interest not considered? There are cases across the country where families have lost their homes because of this. One man was even paying to a child who was living with her mother and her biological father. How crazy is that for someone to pay the parents so they can take care of their own child. Why not make the real fathers pay for their children. The senators are lucky because I am done having children. If not... I would have a baby and name one of their husbands the father and get support from them to see how they really like it. My boyfriend has never been in trouble with law, paid his taxes, and served the military. The mother on the other hand can't hold down a job, stays on state assistance, and now trying to get SSI so she doesn't have to work. She sure can party though. State awards her for her irresponsibility. I work full time, take care of my 3 kids, go to school, and pay my taxes like everyone else and this doesn't seem fair at al
1x_dy

Omaha, NE

#6 May 11, 2010
QUOTE who="Im_Concerned"As long as a few of Missouri's Ignorant Judges refuse to give a the Non Biological father any justice stories like the following will haunt us.
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put the blame where it belongs never thought i would defend a judge but... the judges know EXACTLY what they are doing. and if no one has noticed they are doing it very very well!!! the IGNORANT ones are the people in FRONT of the judges...its up to the man or woman to study the law for themselves, to present themselves not represent themselves. there are very few cases that should ever get past arrainment(sp) but people know more about football players than their own business these days. unplug the t.v. put it in the basement and go study for yourselves. and best of luck to your son in law.
OLIVIA33

Ferndale, WA

#7 Sep 16, 2010
well isnt this lovely all over the country all theese disgusting men knocking up girls and grown women and then our sons and husbands meet up with theese wack jobs and now they become resposible for a nother mans child we women of theese men need to take our stories in each state and get this kinda welfare scam that women pull in each state and they neeed to go to jail like where my husband is right now for not paying his non biological father support for 2 yrs due to lack of work. and ethics. SO BASICALY YOU WOMEN OUT THERE WHO ARE DOING THIS TO UNASSUMING MEN WATCH OUT CAUSE THE TIDE WILL TURN AND THE LAWS WILL CAHNGE AND IT WILL. AND ALL THE WELFARE ABUSERS OUT HERE HAVE FUN SLEEPING ON A CEMENT FLOOR AND EATING BUG INFESTED FOOD AND HUMILATED AND PERSUCUTED WHAT GOES AROUND COMES BACK AROUND. BEWARE MEN DONT LIE WITH DOGS U GET FLEAS. AND TICKS
OLIVIA33

Ferndale, WA

#8 Sep 16, 2010
ONE MORE THING MY HUSBANDS ETHICS HAVE BEEN IN THE LOW EVERY SINCE THIS STATE HAS ISSUED A WARRANT FOR HIS ARREST, THE STATE IS OREGON NON PAYMENT OF CHILD SUPPORT. ALL THE STORIES I HAVE READ HERE IN THIS FORUM ARE SICKING I CANT BELIEVE THAT ANY WOMAN CAN GET KNOCKED UP AND GRAB A HOLD OF ANY GUY SHE PLEASES AND SAY I WANT HIS MONEY FOR THE KID THAT BELONGS TO SOME OTHER GUY AND THE JUDGES ARE A OK WITH THIS. SO THAT SHOULD SAY ALOT TO U UN ASSUMING GUYS OUT THERE.!!!!! WHEN IT COMES TO CHILD SUPPORT AND THE LAW MY HUSBAND WAS NOT NOW AS HIS FREEDOM IS HANGING IN THE WIND AND MINE IM DIRECTLY EFFECTED. IM OUT RAGED BUT IM A FIGHTER AND SO IS MY HUBBY AND ALL U OTHER MEN AND THEIR LOYAL WOMEN DONT LET THIS CORUPT JUDCIAL WORLD WIN OUR HARD EARNED MONEY AND OUR SONS, HUSBANDS , BROTHERS ECT.... FREEDOM, STAND UP AND FIGHT AGAINST WELFARE ABUSERS THAT USE THE SYSTEM FOR A MEANS OF LIVING NOT TO HELP GET ON YOURE FEET YEA THAT IS RIGHT ITS NOT A JOB. WELFARE IS NOT A JOB. OK ITS TO HELP GET U GOING NOT TO HAVE A BUNCH OF BABIES AND CLAIM INNOCENT MEN AS FATHERS U KNOW WHO U ARE .
Nikki

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Sep 16, 2010
I think all states should follow California's at least Los Angeles County's footsteps. When a child is born whether there is a wedding band or not, dad's name is not put on the birth certificate until after a DNA test. When my friend got caught up in that mess I thought it was hilarious at 31 she should have known better, now she has a baby daddy who goes out of his way to not take a DNA test. He has even gone as far as getting his present girlfriend to threaten her and had wandered back to Mexico until the heat was off. Doesn't matter she had a pretty little cute Peruvian/Mexican baby and a decent paying job.
john robinson

Lima, OH

#10 Jun 1, 2011
sigh wrote:
Do you have any idea who the father is? Does he know who she cheated with?
For one thing the Judges across this Nation forget is the 10 comandments 1. Honor your Mother & Father when Judges make men fathers of children not belonging to them how can one child honor that man as GOD said it does more damge than good these judges can not figure that out because there is to much money to be made
Dumb in Oklahoma

Oklahoma City, OK

#11 Sep 14, 2011
I got married over 20yrs age to a friend, just being random, stupid and young. We never lived together, had sex or lived as a married couple. I haven't seen him in over 15 years. I never bothered to get divorced(dumb again), because I never wanted to remarry and never thought about it being a problem. This is where it gets complicated. I have a 13 yr old daughter by another man, who has never been part of her life. I have recently filed for child support from him for the 1st time,at the request of my daughter. She reached out to him and he was less than receptive. It is something that is important to her, so I did it. Well come to find out, according to the state of Oklahoma, her biological father may not have to do crap for her. The guy I married 20 yrs ago is considered her legal father and may be held responsible. How can this be possible??? The state did a DNA test but now say they shouldn't have and I havent gotten the results. But there is no chance anyone else could be the father! REALLY!
bob

United States

#12 Sep 27, 2011
Same things going on in california I'm paying child support for the next 16 years for someone elses son sucks big time for us
Michael

Utica, NY

#13 Feb 9, 2012
I live in NYState and married a woman who had a child that was 6 months old at the time we meant. Subsequently we had a child of our own whom I love a cherish very much. 7 years later we were divorced and in an effort to "take the high road" I paid support for both children without question or hesitation. Recently my ex took me back to court for more money and at this juncture she is recieving 51% of my income. I filed a petition to contest paternity for the child that isn't mine and was told by the judge that even though I did not father her or participate in a legal adoption I am still considered the "father" and responsible to pay for the child until she is 21. Mind you I have no contact or relationship with this child but do see my biological child every other weekend. At this point I'm told I have no recourse because for me to "abandon" this child may "damage" her so pay up and shut up. Apparently there is legal precedent for this although I'm unsure of what it is or how it could be legal. This woman is a letch. My resentment of her has escalated to new heights. How the legal system can pin the responsibilities of a child on a person that did not participate in makeing it or initiate a legal proceeding to assume said responsibility is beyond me. I implore any person in the know or with guidance to contact me. At this point all is lost. msereno03@gmail.com
Maxfield

Montréal, Canada

#14 Feb 21, 2012
The absolute legal limit for a paternity test in child support cases is 2 years with some states having the absolute limit set at 2 months (from birth).

If he signed the birth certificate and only had a paternity test 9 years after the birth, he is legally the father.

There is nothing you or he can do in this situation unless the biological father willingly steps up and pays instead.
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A few other notes for young lads.

If you do not sign the birth certificate or adopt the child you can still be on the hook by "detrimental reliance through promissory estoppel"

So if you show "Fatherly" affection towards the child such as ... you know bringing him/her to sports, helping with homework, playing video games etc for a few years.. then legally you may be become liable for child support if the relation with the woman turns sour.

Be very careful when dating women with children and ALWAYS, ALWAYS, insist upon a paternity test within the legal limit of your state.

You can't imagine how many young men I've met that have been totally shocked by legal reality.
charles

United States

#15 Feb 24, 2012
My ex tells me she's pregnant and I believe its mine because I know l slept with her. She then tells me she know another man who's she gonna put on the bc. She said that a lot but kept telling me the baby was mine. She calls me a tells me she's married and put his name on the birth cert. But then she lied and said I'm sending you a dna test in the mail and I never got it. I feel guilty because I never found out but at the same time she was wrong denying me a test
mrs stephens

Park Hills, MO

#16 Apr 4, 2012
my husband slept with this girl 1 time and she got pregnant and they had a dna swab test done and she had 7 guys tested and it was presumed my husband was the father but he has never seen the kid and denies it and he saw a pic after the kid was 6 months old and the kid had blonde hair and neither one of them have blonde they both have dark hair and the kids eyes are blue and the same neither one of them do we live in missouri and we have tried to talk to a lawyer but they say he cannot have another test done he wants a blood test done like they did back then anyway the reason i am writing you this is because we have been seeing an infertility dr and they said my husbands sperm count is really really low and that it would make it really hard for him to get me pregnant and that is the 2nd dr that has said that so what can we do please please help
mrs stephens

Park Hills, MO

#17 Apr 4, 2012
i am from st.louis missouri
Lin

San Diego, CA

#18 Jul 29, 2012
Wow, it seems so easily for these women to screw random men over for support. The law should NOT allow for this. I adopted a child as a single parent. Now I want my significant other to be able to adopt the child as well. Since we are not married (and will not); the law does not allow for this. So my child will never have a father even though he has a man who wants to be his father - yet these people do not want to be these kids fathers and they are forced too even though no biological connection exists with them. Ohhhh the loop holes in this world!
Gwen

Saint Louis, MO

#20 Dec 13, 2012
My boyfriend of almost 7 years is in a very precarious situation. Before he and his now ex-wife were married, she got pregnant with a now 18 yr old son. This child was born out of wedlock in Las Vegas, NV. Apparently, in the state of NV, a man cannot legally sign a child's birth certificate if he an the woman are not married. After the child's birth, they got married but the birth certificate still remains unsigned by a father. He later found out that she cheated on him with another man while she was visiting her family in St. Louis. Now the state of MO is holding him responsible for paying child support from the time the child was 3 yrs old in 1997 til now, even though they were all living together in the state of FL at the time. No one knows how a child support case was opened in the state of MO in 1997 when they weren't even living there and he was fully supporting the child in another state. He has even submitted proof of this to the Family Support Division of MO, but they still claim he is responsible for paying all of the back child support. Now, everyone does live in MO. Should he still be responsible for owing any support for that child?
Steve

Argenta, IL

#21 Dec 17, 2012
Nikki wrote:
I think all states should follow California's...
Don't be too quick to praise California. There's a case where a minor boy was forced to pay child support to his statutory rapist. The rapist is raising the victim's child. Lovely world, no?

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