Why we're publishing public employees' salaries

How would you like it if the newspaper published your salary? The Pioneer Press has compiled an online database with the names and salaries of about 52,000 Minnesota state, county and city employees. Full Story
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Shana Kewley

Hastings, MN

#2 Jul 15, 2008
Bottom line is...

1.) We are at higher risk with regards to safety concerns. Client's are not necessarily always happy with us and some are not necessarily that particularly stable individuals.(*some-not all)

You can publish my salary. However, publishing my last name goes too far where my and my children's safety is concerned. I live within the community which I serve. The next time I receive a threat here at work (yes it does happen more often then you think) by someone who is not happy with their "government" assistance, I can rest assurred that the enlightened individuals such as the Pioneer Press will make it a point to do what?? Ignore it I am sure because that is not going to get you ratings is it?

2.) Our client's income is funded through state and federal tax dollars. So, taking your argument above, we should publish their full names and annual assistance? My response to that is absolutely not. We make data privacy a primary concern with regards to our clients as we should. Do we not then deserve the same respect? I think that your argument is not as "water tight" as you would like to believe it is.

I would really appreciate that the media think before it speaks at times.

Thank You.
Yawn

Shakopee, MN

#3 Jul 15, 2008
Shana Kewley wrote:
Bottom line is...
1.) We are at higher risk with regards to safety concerns. Client's are not necessarily always happy with us and some are not necessarily that particularly stable individuals.(*some-not all)
You can publish my salary. However, publishing my last name goes too far where my and my children's safety is concerned. I live within the community which I serve. The next time I receive a threat here at work (yes it does happen more often then you think) by someone who is not happy with their "government" assistance, I can rest assurred that the enlightened individuals such as the Pioneer Press will make it a point to do what?? Ignore it I am sure because that is not going to get you ratings is it?
2.) Our client's income is funded through state and federal tax dollars. So, taking your argument above, we should publish their full names and annual assistance? My response to that is absolutely not. We make data privacy a primary concern with regards to our clients as we should. Do we not then deserve the same respect? I think that your argument is not as "water tight" as you would like to believe it is.
I would really appreciate that the media think before it speaks at times.
Thank You.
Nice job protecting your identity Shana.
chabline

Cedar, MN

#4 Jul 15, 2008
How rude! Wasn't there a time when it was considered rude to ask someone what their salary is? Just because it's public information doesn't mean that you give it out on a silver platter to every human on the planet through the internet...
Jim

Palo Alto, CA

#5 Jul 15, 2008
My salary listed on line is $30,000 more than it really is. I expect the Pioneer Press to make up the difference. All public employees should boycott the PP.
PP cowards

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Jul 15, 2008
I see they wiped ten pages of mostly critical comments. Can't take the heat?
jmp326

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Jul 15, 2008
The problem with the information that the Pioneer Press chose to publish is that it is not accurate. The salary information listed is the base salary for the job that the person holds, not what the employee actually makes. I believe that this is slightly misleading to the public.
Now StarTribGuy

Anoka, MN

#8 Jul 15, 2008
In this day of the dying newspaper you cant help but laugh as they must implore any way possible to get viewers/readers. I hate to even comment to help their view count rise but I get a kick out of their so called journalism… If you are going to allow comments on articles, why don’t you let that information be shown rather than cowering behind the delete key.
Ray from MN

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Jul 15, 2008
It's about time!

For years all the papers have published only starting salaries, giving the impression that salaries paid to 22 year olds were the norm, when actual salaries paid to most employees were far greater than that.
PP- Next Step

Anoka, MN

#10 Jul 15, 2008
Here is what to do!

1) Cancel your subscription to the PP (its 80% wire service articles anyhow)
2) Pay to purchase 1 paper at your local PP paper stand, and then rather than taking one copy of the paper, simply remove all the papers and either:
a.Set on top of the machine
b.Toss in nearest trash receptacle
Confused

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Jul 15, 2008
Why isn't Hennepin listed? I believe its still the largest county in MN.
what

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Jul 15, 2008
pp just deleted all the comments. great censorship!
dale

Wayzata, MN

#13 Jul 15, 2008
my salary isn't even right good work.
Wondering

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Jul 15, 2008
There's a comment below that says "I see they wiped ten pages of mostly critical comments." I just found this page -- is that true? If so, what did those comments say and why were they removed?
8 Year County Employee

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Jul 15, 2008
I don't have a problem with the posting of the salaries because it is public knowledge, but I think some things should be included for clarification; such as years of service and how the pay compares to the private sector as for as pay for the same skill requirements. Our customer service tends to be better than the private sector when you call us during our business hours you won't be talking to someone in India or some other country, and you won't be put on hold for 20 minutes, we are here to help you the best we can whether you call in or come to our offices. Instead of skewing your story to inflame the public against govt employees so you can sell papers, you should give an accurate depiction. You should also show how the salaries relate to the Minnesota Price Index and what it takes to provide for a family in this state and remain above poverty levels. Instead of putting the blame on the govt employees put the blame of state of this country where it belongs the elected politicians who turned their back on the people who voted for them after they were elected.
Doesnt matter

Palo Alto, CA

#16 Jul 15, 2008
This isnt that big of a deal...
Steve Wilson

Watertown, MN

#17 Jul 15, 2008
240 previous comments show up at:

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/twincities-...

Hey PP- Next Step: Don't be advocating criminal activity. It lessens the value of your comments.
AndrewEss

Manitowoc, WI

#18 Jul 15, 2008
All this moving and thoughts for secrecy is not healthy, if you are publicly funded there used to be a right to know. Sure I could actually see a need to publish the raw figures i.e. budget, costs and expenditures by taxdollar paid department and number of bodies within that department. I would also like to see revenues too from other sources. As for individuals names well if you work for any financially connected agency, they already have access to more information about you than I would care to think.

I do believe for 30 bucks you can even get a full breakdown and analysis of all information about any person. So ultimately is there a difference, if I want to know information about a person, I can get it. So all those who just love to stoke up the fires of fear, head on down to your legislatures office and make sure that instead of the information being free, we should all just be required to pay for it.
Bynska

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Jul 15, 2008
Doesnt matter wrote:
This isnt that big of a deal...
If it isn't a big deal, publish who you are, where you work, and how much you make... I have been stalked by someone, now she knows where I work. To me it IS a big deal. I could not care less if anyone knows what I make, but I care a great deal if I am injured again by this crazy woman.

Thank you SO much PP. We have cancelled our subscription and we will be notifying your advertizers.
Brent

Palo Alto, CA

#20 Jul 15, 2008
NOTE TO EDITOR: I understand that you are publishing names and salary information of public employees because you believe it to be public information. I am one of those public employees who does not wish to have my private information (yes, I do consider it private) published on a public web site. I cancelled my subscription to the Pioneer Press this morning, and subscribed to the other paper in town. I will make sure not another nickel of my public salary is spent on the Pioneer Press until my private information is removed from your website. Hopefully, other public employees who feel the same way will take action as well.
78888lpl

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Jul 15, 2008
I have worked for the state for many years almost 15 I can tell you that what some of you have commented to as a base pay that is shown by PP is only cents away from my actual pay. I do believe that state employee's wages our public information, but that being said could have been printed by classification rather then individuals names. And to remind everyone once again state employees pay taxes just like everyone else and we our contributing to our own pay!

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