Mother says 14 years behind bars wasn...

Mother says 14 years behind bars wasn't enough for teenage boy ...

There are 159 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Mar 7, 2009, titled Mother says 14 years behind bars wasn't enough for teenage boy .... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Angela McCormick holds a photograph of her daughter Adriana Whiteside at the age of 4 in 1994.

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Alayna

Minneapolis, MN

#108 Mar 8, 2009
Single Parent Mother wrote:
WOW!! Jerk on the heart strings!! How PATHETICD!! Why does this "Career" Single Parent Mother have 3 more kids?? Is that her means of employment, support?? Hey!! Get a job, get your tubes tied, contribute something back to society that you have mooched, stolen from all your life.
... I am a close friend of the mothers. First of all to all you people that want to assume and say negative things in regard to Angela.
How do you know if any of the fathers are around or not? You don't...And furthermore lets not look at the real issue here of course. Lets just assume that she is lacking her children's father, and lets also be sooo ignorant and assume she is on welfare... But Sorry people (hate to disappoint you) but she is NOT. She is a single mother, however, she has put herself through college has a degree, and has always worked full time, and took care of her children by herself!!!
Ignorance is Bliss!
You make me sick.
Susie

United States

#109 Mar 8, 2009
MMM wrote:
<quoted text>
The only solution??? How about if we all revolt and do what is so politically incorrect and say enough! It is not a God given right to have children and we keep enabling these losers that have no right bringing children into the world by giving more and more handouts. We are doomed to this terrible tragedy happening again and again. We make it easy for people to be irresponsible, I bet if the welfare was cut off the pants would stay zipped and the legs would stay crossed.
Actually we are giving fewer and fewer handouts. Welfare has been limited, you know, to 5 years lifetime total. The restrictions are greater and greater and work requirements are attached. There is no longer, hasn't been for years, general assistance that can be had by single people without children. Most social programs were cut back by the Bush administration. We haven't seen anything hit the streets yet, at least to my knowledge, from the Obama administration.

That question aside, how are we going to prevent pregnancy among people not suited to be parents? Make each citizen take a psychological test and sterilize those that don't pass? That wouldn't fly in a democracy and quite honestly it's not fiscally practical in most countries. Of course we could have a one child policy (ya, sure) like China's had. But then you get down to killing babies...
Really what other practical options are there? I agree we could limit welfare more, but the limitations already levied haven't done much to stop pregnancy.
When kids are very young, that is before age 10, it is possible to predict whether he or she will be a serious offender. I think we should start there and remove these kids from the home... and place them in situations where they will get the structure, discipline, and love they need.
Susie

United States

#110 Mar 8, 2009
Monk wrote:
<quoted text>
This thread has taken a nasty turn, oh well.
Incompetent parents don't have consequences for their kid's behavior until it starts costing them money. Freedom of expression and all that. By then it already costs the rest of us for court services, corrections, treatment, etc.
Maybe a 3 strikes program for kids earns them a trip to Sheriff Joe's or something similar, where they shape up or ship out to some type of national service for 2 years.
Who knows, if they get cleaned up they might go back to school, get a job or enlist in the military. This kid was a lost cause long before he was 14. He needed an institution.
You are right about breaking the cycle. With times as tough as they are, there is no better time. Dropouts, juvenile offenders, homeless, drug addicted, unemployed kids need someone to give them a hand. It doesn't have to be punitive, but that is how we could get them into a diversion program. Good luck to Ramsey County in supervising this guy.
Oh how I wish we had the political will to honestly address and solve this problem.
Monk

Portland, OR

#111 Mar 8, 2009
Susie wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh how I wish we had the political will to honestly address and solve this problem.
Good answer to MMM, Susie. Many of the people on welfare are children. Where do they end up with no means of support or care? I think there are people who want to stop welfare, stop insurance for children in poverty, hoping they will just disappear or worse.
Maybe this economic crisis will wake people up to how bad things can get when you lose your job, your house,
your health insurance. Now that Wall Street types are out
of work, maybe things will change.
a mother saddened

Bemidji, MN

#112 Mar 8, 2009
I can understand what it is like to lose a child as I have lost two of my own. I also strongly believe that the mother has a right to know where this convicted child killer will be living not only for her sake, but for the sake of her other childrens safety. I was in prison once years ago and was in with women who took the lives of their own children. some people never know if the killer is truly reformed or not. All I know is that I would never want to take that chance and put my child in harms way. Granted it may be this character suffered as he was a child, he still took the life of another child who had absolutely nothing to do with his torture. My prayers and blessings go out to to Angela and her family. God Bless
monte b alexandria mn

New Munich, MN

#113 Mar 9, 2009
the state should learn from past situations, the handfull of stories of people getting out of prison for violent crimes, that have re-offended, my money says he re-offends......again!
Valigator

Boca Raton, FL

#114 Mar 9, 2009
Born in Colombia in South America on May 21, 1980,

Is this kid a citizen? I doubt it...boot his butt back to Columbia and let them deal with him...this is insane, but most people would go balistic if they knew just how many child murderers were in their airspace.
Valigator

Boca Raton, FL

#115 Mar 9, 2009
BXV wrote:
What a tragic accident. No one single adult is to blame for what happened. All of them are at fault some how. How sad.
I dont know what your definition of an "accident is" but it surely isnt the story profiled...this was no accident, the freak admitted he wanted to know how it felt to kill someone..this thirdworlder is a waste of DNA who has done nothing but leave heartache and havic in his wake..sometimes society just has to bite the bullet and put people like this down..if this guy gets in trouble again, and make no mistake, he will..whats will the justice system's excuse be to the next family..???
Fed up with bailing out

Minneapolis, MN

#117 Mar 9, 2009
Bridget Redifer wrote:
I am the maternal grandmother of Adriana. If Randy Burgess had raped a little 4-year-old, we would know where he will live when he is released. Because he murdered a little 4-year-old, there is no requirement for him to register and we, or anyone unlucky enough to live nearby in Ramsey County, are not allowed to know. March 11th will forever be the anniversary of the saddest day in our lives. Now it will be the anniversary that Randy Burgess will remember as a good day. How ironic. One of the most eye-opening experiences of my life was having to get involved with our justice system when Adriana was murdered. Judge Roland Faricy was living in a dream world. I am willing to bet my own life that anyone who is an opponent of the death penalty or thinks that Randy Burgess has served his time would do a 180 if their loved one was murdered. We were allowed NO information from the state about his location or if he was participating in any type of treatment program during his incarceration--gotta protect those rights--even though we were able to find out the location anyway. Every now and then, someone must come out of prison with a desire to change their life and I am hoping for everyone's sake that Randy Burgess is a changed man but I am not holding my breath.
Bridget, I remember when Adriana was murdered. What a tragic thing to happen to a beautiful little girl and her family. My prayers were with Adriana and her family then and my prayers are still with you today. The loss of Adriana is not something you will ever get over, but know this - Adriana is safe in God's arms until you see her again. I had a near-death experience and I can tell you with 100% certainty that this life is not all there is. This life is meant to be hard so we'd be able to learn and serve some purpose. The next life is heaven which is where Adriana is. Be all that you can be until you see her again.
oldmanemil

Saint Paul, MN

#118 Mar 9, 2009
Monk wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Susie- I worked with guys released from the Green Bay Reformatory for a few years. After what I saw, there is
no such thing as an ex-con. Guys that do hard time are going to reoffend. And I've got no sympathy for them.
i thought you worked with the reformatory not against it that is why you probably got fired
gramomma

Saint Paul, MN

#119 Mar 9, 2009
Professional Manipulators wrote:
<quoted text> CONvicts are professional manipulators. They thrive on being entitled, just like Single Parent Mothers, and the children they support themselves with. The only way to change a criminal is for them to change themselves and support themselves, just like Single Parent Mothers, they have to learn to be responsible for themselves, and support themselve and their children. The 30=40 year social experiment has failed, it takes 2 to make a baby and 2 to support the resulting cuhildren, EQUALLY. How come most criminals come from Single Parent Mother households??
"Most criminals come from SPM households?" Where did you get that information? I would really like to know.Or did you just make that up, like alot of people do when they are trying to sound intelligent.
tjwillie

Saint Paul, MN

#120 Mar 9, 2009
monte b alexandria mn wrote:
the state should learn from past situations, the handfull of stories of people getting out of prison for violent crimes, that have re-offended, my money says he re-offends......again!
Of course he's going to re-offend, he killed a innocent little girl and got a slap on the wrist for it.
Monk

Portland, OR

#121 Mar 9, 2009
oldmanemil wrote:
<quoted text> i thought you worked with the reformatory not against it that is why you probably got fired
Pull your head out long enough to get the picture- guys are released to make room for new or repeat offenders. There are only so many beds in a prison and guys do their time and leave. Are they cured or fixed? No. They can't be trusted, they'll reoffend.
Do you seriously think this kid with brain damage will stay out of trouble or can now be trusted?

BTW, I've never been fired from a job. How about you?
Done some time yourself, emil?
Monk

Portland, OR

#122 Mar 9, 2009
Fed up with bailing out wrote:
<quoted text>
Bridget, I remember when Adriana was murdered. What a tragic thing to happen to a beautiful little girl and her family. My prayers were with Adriana and her family then and my prayers are still with you today. The loss of Adriana is not something you will ever get over, but know this - Adriana is safe in God's arms until you see her again. I had a near-death experience and I can tell you with 100% certainty that this life is not all there is. This life is meant to be hard so we'd be able to learn and serve some purpose. The next life is heaven which is where Adriana is. Be all that you can be until you see her again.
Well said. Your wisdom speaks volumes about you.
sad

Prior Lake, MN

#123 Mar 9, 2009
Alayna wrote:
<quoted text>
... I am a close friend of the mothers. First of all to all you people that want to assume and say negative things in regard to Angela.
How do you know if any of the fathers are around or not? You don't...And furthermore lets not look at the real issue here of course. Lets just assume that she is lacking her children's father, and lets also be sooo ignorant and assume she is on welfare... But Sorry people (hate to disappoint you) but she is NOT. She is a single mother, however, she has put herself through college has a degree, and has always worked full time, and took care of her children by herself!!!
Ignorance is Bliss!
You make me sick.
I dont know if you read these posts often but this is what it always comes back to. Politics, Welfare and poor me. Some of the people on here really lose sight of what the real issues are and have to try to make it about something else. Try to ignore the ignorance of some of the people on here, they are just selfish idiots. My heart goes out to your family, I definitly feel your frustration with his release and lack of information of his whereabouts. I think that is complete BS!

“Peace the old fashioned way”

Since: Jan 09

Montevideo

#124 Mar 9, 2009
Hey PP wrote:
HOW about a recent photo of this POS so we know what to watch out for.
http://info.doc.state.mn.us/publicviewer/Inma...

“Peace the old fashioned way”

Since: Jan 09

Montevideo

#125 Mar 9, 2009
I live 150 miles west of St. Paul for a reason, and this is one of them. This is what happens with a dependent class of people that certain politicians cater to keep themselves in office. If Hussein has his way we'll have section 8 housing all over Minnesota. Most decent hard working taxpaying Americans do not want this kind of filth in their neighborhood. While we're to "Minnesota nice" to actually do anything about it. I prefer having these kind of people bundled up in one area far away for me. The welfare leeches, breeding machines, the welfare pimps, the brain addled dopers, the juicers all belong in one area to themselves, leave the rest of us alone.

Since: Feb 09

Northome, MN

#126 Mar 9, 2009
this fool needs to stay where he is for another 14. if he goes back he will prob go to oak park heights.

Since: Feb 09

Northome, MN

#127 Mar 9, 2009
go to the mn doc inmate locator again and check out my guys, jesse tapio, darryl headbird, chris headbird, brandon laducer, cheyenne budreau, itanca henry, wambli mcarthur, and kenneth budreau, they are all in oak park heights for lesser type murders, i mean they didnt kill no children.

Since: Feb 09

Northome, MN

#128 Mar 9, 2009
but i know this one dude named matthew martin who killed a fourteen year old and went straight to oak park, and was sentenced to life with no parole and this dude gets off this easy man the system is fcked!

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