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#21 Mar 27, 2009
If ethanol made so much sense, we wouldn't have to subsidize it with tens of billions of dollars every year, or mandate its consumption with the government putting a gun to the American Taxpayer's head.

Only 5 to 6 billion gallons of ACTUAL ethanol is being produced this year, so stop trying to Inflate and Exaggerate the actual effect and real number that is subsidized by the American Taxpayer and its consumption Mandated with the government putting a gun to the American Taxpayer's head.

Listen to this whole video: Before spouting off about data and facts that you either do not understand; or chose to manipulate to subsidize your lifestyle at taxpayer expense:

&NR =1

Here is a correction you supporters need to start using:

12.5 billion gallons of capacity of the US ethanol industry as of 01/01/2009.

25% of capacity idled due to incompetence as billions of dollars a year in American Taxpayer subsidies isn't enough to support this scam on the American people as of 01/01/2009.

Thus only 9.4 billion gallons of capacity remains.

BUT, AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU ETHANOL SCAMMERS:

We need to deduct AT LEAST 32% because of the reduced fuel mileage of ethanol compared to real gas.(but the 32% reflects e-85 and using 100% ethanol, as the 9.4 shows, would make it closer to 40%)

Thus, only 5 to 6 billion gallons of ACTUAL ethanol is being produced this year, so stop trying to Inflate and Exaggerate the actual effect and real number that is subsidized by the American Taxpayer and its consumption Mandated with the government putting a gun to the American Taxpayer's head.

http://www.fuelgaugereport.com/index.asp

http://www.ethanolrfa.org/industry/statistics...

And, letís be honest, The beginning number of 12.5 is probably whack information, as for example,

(1) bankrupt Renew Energy of Jefferson, Wisconsin claims to be the biofuels industry leader for innovation and efficiency...yet they are bankrupt. Whack

(2) bankrupt Renew Energy until this week claimed on their website and to their bank (owed $140 million with interest), The Town of Aztalan owed $38 million in taxpayer supported revenue bonds), investors, customers, venders, and even the government that they had the capacity of 130 million gallons per year.

BUT

in the court documents filed by bankrupt Renew Energy in federal court, Renew Energy UNDER OATH claims ONLY 110 million gallons of capacity per year:

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/assets/pdf/U01...

and

http://www.thenorthwestern.com/assets/pdf/U01...

What a sneaky little lie to obtain extra undeserved financing from not only its bank and taxpayer funded subsidies (revenue bonds). Sneaky too how Renew Energy took all reference to this "huge bolded lying statement of 130 million gallons" off its home page.

I am sure 20 million gallons of fake capacity a year adds fraudulently to the bottom line of the lying documents Renew Energy supplied to everyone in this clear example of yet another scam within the Ethanol Scam itself.

http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm...

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#22 Mar 27, 2009
Mellers wrote:
Richard Iffert: If (and I really mean if) our country is leaning towards socialism, there are a LOT of people in the private sector you can thank for that. We get what we deserve.
Nationalized banks and conglomerates(AIG), nationalized heath care and weath distribution. We are way passed the "leaning toward" stage and well into the process. The bad part is that the Obama adminstration doesn't want to stop there. They want every single person in the country to depend on the government to live. We are fast approaching the Communist stage, especially it their plans to make all news papers(I'm not sure if it is all news outlets or just the papers) non-profit organizations goes through. These aren't the values that America was founded on and people should be outraged that it is happening. Instead people are jumping for joy. Maybe America really is dying.
Gndydncr

Hugo, MN

#23 Mar 28, 2009
Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
Apart from no other jobs available and a compelling need to eat, I can't think of any.
... unless it was to make trouble for somebody.
babewinkleman

Honolulu, HI

#24 Mar 28, 2009
MarsBackpacker wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you be a bit more specific about what country you are referring? Some countries are taxed to death. Me personally, I'd rather have as much of my income I earn vs. having the government take it to redistribute. You talk of quality of life like it's a check box on a survey. "Are you happy, check yes or no." If I thought the quality of life was so wonderful in "northern Europe", I'd move there. In fact I'm sure most immigrations would be focus there....oh, but wait, why do so many people want to immigrate to the US?? I'm sure it has nothing to do with our freedom or quality of life.
Specifically I'm talking about scandinavia, and by the way how much of your income are you keeping? You think because you aren't paying as high of taxes directly for things like healthcare and social services you aren't paying just as much for it? I think you might be awfully surprised about the real answer to your immigration question, especially considering how much easier it is to get into the US illegally.
Gndydncr

Hugo, MN

#25 Mar 28, 2009
babewinkleman wrote:
<quoted text>
Specifically I'm talking about scandinavia, and by the way how much of your income are you keeping? You think because you aren't paying as high of taxes directly for things like healthcare and social services you aren't paying just as much for it? I think you might be awfully surprised about the real answer to your immigration question, especially considering how much easier it is to get into the US illegally.
You make a valid point and I think a valid argument for those who don't care how they get healthcare and social services, just as long as they get it. However there are those who like to choose the who, what, when, where, and how much of it, thereby controling their own expenses rather than have government dictate all of that to them.
arch pimpley

Farmington, MN

#26 Mar 29, 2009
"We are stunned as more of our liberties evaporate daily" Richard Iffert, Eagan

I have read your letter Richard, But I cann't think of the liberties that evaporated recently. Please, if you would list a few, five or six would be o.k., so that I can start missing them like you already do. I was gone last week. Did the government take over our healthcare system and means of production while I was gone? Maybe you should check into this bank thing also. I am not aware of the government taking over any healthy banks and the ones that needed intervention are, as far as I know sold off to private banks that operate them along with their other holdings.
arch pimpley

Farmington, MN

#27 Mar 29, 2009
Union Members Summary
Technical information: USDL 09-0095
http://www.bls.gov/cps/
For release: 10:00 A.M.(EST)
Media contact:( Wednesday, January 28, 2009
UNION MEMBERS IN 2008
In 2008, union members accounted for 12.4 percent of employed wage
and salary workers, up from 12.1 percent a year earlier, the U.S.
Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. The
number of workers belonging to a union rose by 428,000 to 16.1 million.
In 1983, the first year for which comparable union data are available,
the union membership rate was 20.1 percent, and there were 17.7 million
union workers.
Membership by Industry and Occupation
The union membership rate for public sector workers (36.8 percent)
was substantially higher than the rate for private industry workers
(7.6 percent).
Obviously, those that persistently bash unions are willfully misrepresenting the labor situation in America. Only 7.6 percent of American workers in the private sector are represented by unions. Compare that miniscule number with the lies about union goons and arm twisting. Total complete misrepresentations and deliberately done. American workers should be able to form any associations they want without any interference from anyone. A worker that doesn't want to be represented by a union obviously doesn't have far to go find a non union place of employment if they don't wish to be represented by a union chosen by a majority of their co workers. Workers in America that are not represented by union contract are employees at will and have few rights. you start a job and the first thing you are required to do is sign a stack of papers agreeing to grant the employer even wider latitude. Unions give a worker the opportunity to fair and equitable treatment when a non union worker has no recourse. The vast majority of workers, thankfully, never have to exercise their rights but that doesn't them less important to have them.
Bob the Bilderberg

Minneapolis, MN

#29 Mar 29, 2009
gzaiger wrote:
<quoted text>
Why?
Parade recently posted an article - a version of which I will post here, you can find it everywhere on the web - about where people are the happiest. Democracies where people don't have to worry about health care or retirement issues ranked very high. These are real people just saying how they feel about their lives. I love my country, and want us to work together to make it better. If you want to freak yourself out by calling it "socialism", go ahead. But pooling resources is just plain smart, and humans have been doing it for thousands of years.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europ...
The reason these people are happy is the same reason your 5 year-old is happy. They have no concerns about where their support comes from. They have no responsibilities because someone else, a working person, is taking care of them.

Socialism is fine if you're a recipient. But the reason communism failed is because eventually those who contribute the most begin to resent those who contribute the least. Most people who have to pay for it all would rather be free to spend their earnings as they wish, not on deadbeats.
dddd

Honolulu, HI

#30 Mar 29, 2009
Gndydncr wrote:
<quoted text>
You make a valid point and I think a valid argument for those who don't care how they get healthcare and social services, just as long as they get it. However there are those who like to choose the who, what, when, where, and how much of it, thereby controling their own expenses rather than have government dictate all of that to them.
You think everyone in america gets to make those choices? Please. Fewer people have those choices every year.
Gndydncr

Fargo, ND

#31 Mar 30, 2009
dddd wrote:
<quoted text>
You think everyone in america gets to make those choices? Please. Fewer people have those choices every year.
Exactly! So misery loves company. As long as somebody has to suffer, lets make everybody suffer. Why is the liberal's policy always about dragging successful people down rather than helping failing people up?
No One Important

Warrenville, IL

#32 Mar 30, 2009
New Poll by Schoen for Kauffman Foundation:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/200...

Great Article!

63%(SIXTY THREE!) prefer polices that incentivize individuals to start their own businesses over direct government efforts to create new jobs.(Only 23% believe otherwise)

79%(SEVENTY NINE!) say that entrepreneurs are more important job creators than big business, scientists and government (dead last).

Only 20% of Americans believe the stimulus package will do much to help entrepreneurs.

ONLY 3% believe it will encourage innovation

78% believe THAT is important to the health of the economy.
Some things that government could do include encouraging risk taking through tax policy. Exempt entrepreneurs from payroll taxes. More respondents favored this idea than any other fix; it out-polled the stimulus package by nearly two-to-one.
TWO TO ONE for getting rid of payroll taxes.

So, how much more stupidity do you think we need to tolerate from Obama?

Carl Schramm closes with:
There is genuine and mounting public anger over the mishandling of the economic crisis so far and the failure of various measures such as TARP to stop the bleeding as promised. The more government spends, and the deeper it sinks the country into debt without doing anything to promote job creation and growth, the more the anger will deepen and spread.
The anger is showing up in polls. Obama and the mindless idiotic democrats are starting to wear this failure. Canít spit ball at the back of Bushís head anymore. Obama has been dragging his FEET on an economic policy and a plan to fix the banks.

46% DO NOT support Obama's budget now. Only 40% support it now. Support is DOWN 4 points. 63% of voters say TAX CUTS HELP the economy. That is UP 7 POINTS from February.(Rasmussen)

The PEOPLE know what needs to be done, and it isnít about the GOVERNMENT spending OUR money, itís about giving us OUR MONEY BACK, and let us pull our sorry butts out of this mess ourselves.

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