Semi Automatic Assault Weapon Ban

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Gabrielle Giffords

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Jan 8, 2011
Thanks you, Republican Party and the National Rifle Association, for keeping legal weapons with the sole purpose of killing as many people as fast as possible.

Once again you've proved that you are stuck in the Wild Wild West and don't represent the will of the people.

Vote out the Republican bastards that caused this senseless attack!

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Common Sense

Shakopee, MN

#2 Jan 8, 2011
Unfortunately the representative was a moderate. Perhaps you should turn on MSNBC and get addition perspective from your choirboy Keith Olbermann you Democrat myope.
Marty Kaplan

Chicago, IL

#3 Jan 8, 2011
Marty Kaplan.Director, Norman Lear Center and Professor at the USC Annenberg School
Posted: January 8, 2011 03:04 PM

I'm not saying that putting a bullseye on Arizona Democrat Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' congressional race - as Sarah Palin did - was an explicit or intentional invitation to violence. Nor am I saying that the "Get on Target for Victory" events held by the guy Giffords beat - "Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly" - was the reason her assassin went after her. This tragedy is still unfolding, and the questions of motive and incitement will be argued about for a long time to come.

But I am saying that the "lock and load"/"take up your arms" rhetoric of American politics isn't just an overheated metaphor. For years, the language of sports has dominated political journalism, and discourse about hardball and the horserace and the rest of the macho athletic lexicon has been a factor in the trivialization of our public sphere. This has helped dumb down democracy, making a serious national discussion about anything important too wonky for words.

The "second amendment solution," though, does something worse than make politics a branch of entertainment. It makes it a blood sport. I know politics ain't beanbag. But words have consequences, rhetoric shapes reality, and much as we like to believe that we are creatures of reason, there is something about our species' limbic system and lizard brainstems that makes us susceptible to irrational fantasies.

If you're worried that violent video games may make kids prone to bad behavior; if you think that mysogenic and homophobic rap lyrics are dangerous to society; if you believe that a nipple in a Superbowl halftime show is a threat to our moral fabric - then surely you should also fear that the way public and media figures have framed political participation with shooting gallery imagery is just as potentially lethal.
Farmer Frank

Dallas, TX

#4 Jan 8, 2011
Marty Kaplan wrote:
Marty Kaplan.Director, Norman Lear Center and Professor at the USC Annenberg School
Posted: January 8, 2011 03:04 PM
I'm not saying that putting a bullseye on Arizona Democrat Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' congressional race - as Sarah Palin did - was an explicit or intentional invitation to violence. Nor am I saying that the "Get on Target for Victory" events held by the guy Giffords beat - "Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly" - was the reason her assassin went after her. This tragedy is still unfolding, and the questions of motive and incitement will be argued about for a long time to come.
But I am saying that the "lock and load"/"take up your arms" rhetoric of American politics isn't just an overheated metaphor. For years, the language of sports has dominated political journalism, and discourse about hardball and the horserace and the rest of the macho athletic lexicon has been a factor in the trivialization of our public sphere. This has helped dumb down democracy, making a serious national discussion about anything important too wonky for words.
The "second amendment solution," though, does something worse than make politics a branch of entertainment. It makes it a blood sport. I know politics ain't beanbag. But words have consequences, rhetoric shapes reality, and much as we like to believe that we are creatures of reason, there is something about our species' limbic system and lizard brainstems that makes us susceptible to irrational fantasies.
If you're worried that violent video games may make kids prone to bad behavior; if you think that mysogenic and homophobic rap lyrics are dangerous to society; if you believe that a nipple in a Superbowl halftime show is a threat to our moral fabric - then surely you should also fear that the way public and media figures have framed political participation with shooting gallery imagery is just as potentially lethal.
The time has come to ban handguns.
Lakes Guy

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Jan 10, 2011
The time has come to ban all guns without a legitimate use, like hunting.

In the entire western world, restricting access to guns DOES work, and saves many thousands of lives each year.

In the United States our death rate from gunshots in 15.2 per thousand annually.

Compare that to other countries:

France: 6.35
Canada: 4.78
Italy: 2.95
Australia: 2.94
Germany: 1.57
Greece: 1.50
Ireland: 1.21
Spain: 0.90
Netherlands: 0.70
Scotland: 0.58
England: 0.48
Japan: 0.07

US: 15.2

It's time for you wingnuts to realize that we aren't in the 17th century anymore, and times change. We don't play cowboys and Indians anymore, and few of us need to defend against wild animal attacks.

There are effective non-lethal DEFENSIVE weapons available, such as stun guns.

You right wing idiots need to put on your big boy pants and accept that the world has changed and at least not stand in the way of making our country a better - and safer - place to live.

The blood from the shootings yesterday are on YOUR hands.
tww

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Jan 10, 2011
There should be a law against selling guns to left-wing, pot-head, nut jobs.
tww is twwhacko

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Jan 10, 2011
tww wrote:
There should be a law against selling guns to left-wing, pot-head, nut jobs.
If you look at the hate group he belonged to, which was anti-government, white supremacist, anti poor people, opposed immigration, legal or otherwise, and one the books he read my "Mein Kampf", written by the right wing fascist Hitler - he looks a lot more right wing than left wing to me.

And he was certainly incited by the Tea Party rhetoric and veiled threats of violence, not to mention that bullseye on Palin's website.

The Tea Party and Palin have blood on their hands today
Over reacting

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Jan 10, 2011
Gabrielle Giffords wrote:
Thanks you, Republican Party and the National Rifle Association, for keeping legal weapons with the sole purpose of killing as many people as fast as possible.
Once again you've proved that you are stuck in the Wild Wild West and don't represent the will of the people.
Vote out the Republican bastards that caused this senseless attack!
You people come across as nothing more than a bunch of mindless nut jobs. The shooting was a tragic event when a mentally deranged person gets his hands on a gun and goes off the deep end of insanity. However, that is no reason to legislate more of our freedoms away, If it was so simple to legislate laws to protect everyone from every possible danger, cars, and alcohol would have been outlawed years ago. A car in the wrong hands can turn into a weapon of death, same is true with a gun with the wrong person behind the trigger. Some people enjoy collecting various things: Baseball cards, comic books, stamps, tea cups and even guns, for many gun collectors it amounts to nothing more than a hobby with no harm intended for anyone. And there ought to be a law against special interest groups that want our freedoms legislated away.
Over reacting

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Jan 10, 2011
tww is twwhacko wrote:
<quoted text>
If you look at the hate group he belonged to, which was anti-government, white supremacist, anti poor people, opposed immigration, legal or otherwise, and one the books he read my "Mein Kampf", written by the right wing fascist Hitler - he looks a lot more right wing than left wing to me.
And he was certainly incited by the Tea Party rhetoric and veiled threats of violence, not to mention that bullseye on Palin's website.
The Tea Party and Palin have blood on their hands today
Yep! Let's turn this tragedy into a political thing, you know, sort of like a he said she said kind of a deal, let's not take into consideration for one minute nor should we mention the fact that the shooter only had vapor for brains. He could have been driven over the edge by anything.
Obamas Hateful Rhetoric

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Jan 10, 2011
The Libs on the Left need the stop all of their violent hate speech...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_141...

“A Republican majority in Congress would mean “hand-to-hand combat” on Capitol Hill for the next two years, threatening policies Democrats have enacted to stabilize the economy,”— Obama, October 6, 2010

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,”— Obama in July 2008

“I want you to argue with them and get in their face!”— Barack Obama, September 2008

“We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us.”— Obama to Latinos, October 2010

“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!” Obama on ACORN Mobs, March 2010 “We talk to these folks… so I know whose *** to kick.“— Obama on the private sector, June 2010

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,”- President Barack Obama”

“Argue with neighbors, Get in their face!,”- President Barack Obama”

“If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,”- President Barack Obama”

“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry.”- President Barack Obama”

“Punish your enemies”- President Barack Obama”
Random Access

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Jan 10, 2011
The time has come to ban all guns without a legitimate use, like hunting.

In the entire western world, restricting access to guns DOES work, and saves many thousands of lives each year.

In the United States our death rate from gunshots in 15.2 per thousand annually.

Compare that to other countries:

France: 6.35
Canada: 4.78
Italy: 2.95
Australia: 2.94
Germany: 1.57
Greece: 1.50
Ireland: 1.21
Spain: 0.90
Netherlands: 0.70
Scotland: 0.58
England: 0.48
Japan: 0.07

US: 15.2

It's time for you wingnuts to realize that we aren't in the 17th century anymore, and times change. We don't play cowboys and Indians anymore, and few of us need to defend against wild animal attacks.

There are effective non-lethal DEFENSIVE weapons available, such as stun guns.

You right wing idiots need to put on your big boy pants and accept that the world has changed and at least not stand in the way of making our country a better - and safer - place to live.

The blood from the shootings yesterday are on YOUR hands.
Matt

Sierra Vista, AZ

#12 Jan 10, 2011
Random Access wrote:
The time has come to ban all guns without a legitimate use, like hunting.
In the entire western world, restricting access to guns DOES work, and saves many thousands of lives each year.
In the United States our death rate from gunshots in 15.2 per thousand annually.
Compare that to other countries:
France: 6.35
Canada: 4.78
Italy: 2.95
Australia: 2.94
Germany: 1.57
Greece: 1.50
Ireland: 1.21
Spain: 0.90
Netherlands: 0.70
Scotland: 0.58
England: 0.48
Japan: 0.07
US: 15.2
It's time for you wingnuts to realize that we aren't in the 17th century anymore, and times change. We don't play cowboys and Indians anymore, and few of us need to defend against wild animal attacks.
There are effective non-lethal DEFENSIVE weapons available, such as stun guns.
You right wing idiots need to put on your big boy pants and accept that the world has changed and at least not stand in the way of making our country a better - and safer - place to live.
The blood from the shootings yesterday are on YOUR hands.
Okay Mr. Statistics, what percentage of these shootings in America involved black gang bangers and drug dealers, crunch thise numbers!!

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#13 Jan 10, 2011
tww is twwhacko wrote:
<quoted text>
If you look at the hate group he belonged to, which was anti-government, white supremacist, anti poor people, opposed immigration, legal or otherwise, and one the books he read my "Mein Kampf", written by the right wing fascist Hitler - he looks a lot more right wing than left wing to me.
And he was certainly incited by the Tea Party rhetoric and veiled threats of violence, not to mention that bullseye on Palin's website.
The Tea Party and Palin have blood on their hands today
Hitler was a socialist, that means leftwing nut.
tww

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Jan 10, 2011
tww is twwhacko wrote:
<quoted text>
If you look at the hate group he belonged to, which was anti-government, white supremacist, anti poor people, opposed immigration, legal or otherwise, and one the books he read my "Mein Kampf", written by the right wing fascist Hitler - he looks a lot more right wing than left wing to me.
And he was certainly incited by the Tea Party rhetoric and veiled threats of violence, not to mention that bullseye on Palin's website.
The Tea Party and Palin have blood on their hands today
Nazis were socialists. Since when are socialist right-wing?
Lev Trotsky

Meadowlands, MN

#16 Jan 10, 2011
tww is twwhacko wrote:
<quoted text>
If you look at the hate group he belonged to, which was anti-government, white supremacist, anti poor people, opposed immigration, legal or otherwise, and one the books he read my "Mein Kampf", written by the right wing fascist Hitler - he looks a lot more right wing than left wing to me.
And he was certainly incited by the Tea Party rhetoric and veiled threats of violence, not to mention that bullseye on Palin's website.
The Tea Party and Palin have blood on their hands today
The whacko also listed Karl Marx as one of the authors he read and was described by acquaintances as a left-winger.

Regarding that "hate group" he did not belong to, go to their web site and read the post from the publisher date 1-10-2011.

Knee jerk retards - predictable as the sunset.
sand on streets

Blue Earth, MN

#17 Jan 10, 2011
Farmer Frank wrote:
<quoted text>
The time has come to ban handguns.
And after we ban handguns, we will go after your farm tractor, Farmer Frank.
Archie From Coon Rapids

Sweden

#18 Jan 10, 2011
tww wrote:
<quoted text>
Nazis were socialists. Since when are socialist right-wing?
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Check your history. The Nazis are considered a far RIGHT wing group.
Archie From Coon Rapids

Sweden

#19 Jan 10, 2011
If you look at the hate group he belonged to, which was anti-government, white supremacist, anti poor people, opposed immigration, legal or otherwise, and one the books he read my "Mein Kampf", written by the right wing fascist Hitler - he looks a lot more right wing than left wing to me.

And he was certainly incited by the Tea Party rhetoric and veiled threats of violence, not to mention that bullseye on Palin's website.

The Tea Party and Palin have blood on their hands today

“Progressive USA”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#20 Jan 10, 2011
Violent rhetoric and the attempted assassination of Gabrielle Giffords
by Barbara Morrill
Mon Jan 10, 2011 at 09:08:02 AM PST
In the two days since the attempted assassination of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, the debate has been raging over the culpability of the violent rhetoric that is so commonplace in today's political climate. Which of course has led to the rapid-fire peddling of false equivalencies by the right, where now, saying a congressional district is being targeted is the same as actually putting crosshairs on a district and saying it's time to "RELOAD."

And while there are many examples of the violent language employed by the right: "Second Amendment remedies," "resorting to the bullet box," calls to be "armed and dangerous," to name just a few, it's more than that. And it's why Republicans are so eager to say, "both sides do it," to the point of equating an anonymous diarist on Daily Kos with Sarah Palin.

Because since the election of Barack Obama, the right, both elected Republicans and their minions in the media, have pounded the non-stop drumbeat that Obama/Democrats/liberals want to destroy the country, they want to kill your grandmother, they're shredding the Constitution, they're terrorist sympathizers, they're going to take away your guns, that they're enemies of humanity, that the government is the enemy ...

And that, as much as the obvious examples of violent rhetoric, can appeal to the extremist, the mentally unstable, or the "lone nut," to act. And last Saturday, one of them did.

Since: Oct 09

Harker Heights, TX

#21 Jan 10, 2011
Which one of you gunless gun thieves are going to try to take mine?

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