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How will GOP handle election letdown? Michigan union fight offers clues.

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imaginaryfriend

Sterling Heights, MI

#1 Nov 9, 2012
We suggest that the rightwingers in the Governor's office and the Michigan legislature watch on video the story about Kasich's SB-5 loss on a repetitive loop until it finally sinks into your rightwingnutball so called brains that we, the people of Michigan, are in full support of collective bargaining rights. The boots on the ground team IS assembled and ready for combat!!! Got that????
GOP

United States

#2 Nov 13, 2012
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pea...

We petition the Obama Administration to:
Peacefully grant the State of Michigan to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.

As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

"...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government..."
Created: Nov 10, 2012
Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties
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Total signatures on this petition 13,400
imaginaryfriend

Sterling Heights, MI

#3 Nov 13, 2012
To all the GOP Nutballs: We the People should have protested in the streets in 2000 when Kathryn Harris, Jeb Bush, Karl Rove, and the fascist 5 on the SCOTUS of the time illegally gave the presidency of our nation to G.W. Bush. Did you forget that our economic downfall is attributable in main part to the horrible actions that took place during those 8 years, in concert with the "trickle-down" bull-loney of the Reagan era??? We did NOT forget, nor do we forgive. So go get yourselves some psychotherapy for your rigid racism and hate of your fellow Americans. You are being watched with earned derision worldwide. You lost the election! Thanks to Zeus. Now get a grip on reality and turn off Fixed Noise. It causes brain-rot as a well known side effect.
imaginaryfriend

Sterling Heights, MI

#4 Nov 13, 2012
P.S. We were among those at the Capitol that day in 2011 to oppose pRick snyper and his EFM law which is now rightfully DEAD!!!!
Jim B

Kalamazoo, MI

#5 Nov 14, 2012
For those of you that are not paying attention to what is happening in your country. Let us know a year from now how you feel about Obama's win. The worst is yet to come unless you strive to live in a 3rd world country. Open your eyes and watch.
Jim B

Kalamazoo, MI

#6 Nov 16, 2012
Phones man, phones. It is da answer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
celticwarriors

Bradenton, FL

#8 Dec 8, 2012
To dismembered above and other vile filth from rightwingnoballism: You are dying out. Hurry up!

Since: Jul 07

Newport News, VA

#11 Dec 15, 2012
new member wrote:
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For your sake, hope not. Someone's got to pay the bills, it's never been your lot that has.
What I do find interesting is the wailing and gnashing of teeth all because mandatory confiscation of employee compensation will now become voluntary. Obviously there is a fear that 'x' number of 'members' will not volunteer to fund the union as they do not perceive it to have improved their condition, and/or do not agree with the political spending they are forced to fund. Surely if the union represented it's membership this wouldn't be a concern. The fact that it is, is telling. Only through forced contributions can the union survive? Wow, and members are throwing a fit to protect their bureaucracy that thinks of them ( and has voiced ) as nothing more than "dues payers". Actually I think RTW might strengthen local focus and control of unions, as they can no longer take for granted members and must provide value added service.
“To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
jumbojimbo

United States

#12 Dec 15, 2012
GoodNewz wrote:
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“To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
wasn't that out of context quote about the seperation of church and state? Or was he generalizing about taxes being abhorant sinful and tyrannical? I mean if my taxes go to the military and they kill innocent people is it sinful for me to pay taxes?
jumbojimbo

United States

#13 Dec 15, 2012
new member wrote:
<quoted text>
For your sake, hope not. Someone's got to pay the bills, it's never been your lot that has.
What I do find interesting is the wailing and gnashing of teeth all because mandatory confiscation of employee compensation will now become voluntary. Obviously there is a fear that 'x' number of 'members' will not volunteer to fund the union as they do not perceive it to have improved their condition, and/or do not agree with the political spending they are forced to fund. Surely if the union represented it's membership this wouldn't be a concern. The fact that it is, is telling. Only through forced contributions can the union survive? Wow, and members are throwing a fit to protect their bureaucracy that thinks of them ( and has voiced ) as nothing more than "dues payers". Actually I think RTW might strengthen local focus and control of unions, as they can no longer take for granted members and must provide value added service.
the rtw for less law is not about righteousness or fairness. It's about union busting period. If it was so altruistic they would have not rammed it through with a spending clause. This not about economics it's about politics. And if the people who actually wrote these legislations were required to sell them to the citizenry publicly rather than secretly through our bought and paid for lawmakers people could get an idea of why and how the middle class is being eliminated.
mike

Akron, OH

#15 Dec 16, 2012
new member wrote:
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RTW cannot 'bust' a union. it gives the union's members the ability to bust the union by not paying their dues. Theoretically; If the service provided by the union is perceived to be value added and their political stands consistent with their members, the members will continue to support it.
Realistically; Unions have done two things, Indoctrinated their members with the gibsme dat eyes be entitled mentality. They have no sense of unity or sacrifice for the 'collective' good. Because of this when members can choose to pay or not,a large % will selfishly decide to pocket the dues $$$( that's the fault of the unions). The second thing, unions have not represented a % of their members views politically. When confronted about it, members were/are basically told to sit down, shut up, not make waves and been threatened. That % of members rightly resent the 'leadership'. They probably won't voluntarily fund the activities any longer ( This is also the unions fault). The rest of the members that either agree with or simply don't pat attention to union politics, will probably continue funding their special club. It won't be enough to keep the beast fed. I would guess 'tribute' to the beast will decline by 50% minimum.
Exactly. Unions have dealt there own death blow by refusing to even discuss school reform, confiscating money, acting like babies when they dont get their way, the Boeing lawsuit, and lets not forget the elimination of the secret ballot they tried to initiate. All of the above have contributed to various states inacting right to work after over ten years of not ONE state doing so.
guitarwho

United States

#16 Dec 16, 2012
GoodNewz wrote:
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“To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
that out of context quote was about the seperation of church and state.
guitarwho

United States

#17 Dec 16, 2012
new member wrote:
oh oh, someone got on their obama phone and called the false messiah.He doesn't know what to make of rtw ( no surprise there ) but thinks he might be able to swing by on his way to Hawaii and heal your wounds, maybe. He was wondering what was in it for him of course.... After conferring with george soros obama realized that he got what he wanted from you already so he basically said 'tough sh1t we ( by we he means you) all have to sacrifice to bring my delusions to fruition' before farting in your general direction. Crazy joe biden grinn. ed fanatically while uttering 'skin in da game skin in da game', before soiling himself and building a mudman with his filth..... We'll keep you posted as new developments arise.
there is no such thing as an "obama phone" also, my mentally challenges compatriot when you accept employment at a union shop OPEN OR CLOSED you are covered. By. The collective bargaining agreement. You get union wages, benefits and representation. You are a member of the union whether you choose to freeload is up to you now that rtw FoR less is the law. It's union busting under the veil of "rights" good luck with that. Meet you at the bottom.
Phil in the village

Bronson, MI

#18 Dec 17, 2012
Jim B wrote:
For those of you that are not paying attention to what is happening in your country. Let us know a year from now how you feel about Obama's win. The worst is yet to come unless you strive to live in a 3rd world country. Open your eyes and watch.
Its here already ! Its called the laim duck republicans in control in Michigan ! Talk about Obama ?? The communist are here in Michigan from top to bottom ...

Since: Dec 12

Roderfield, WV

#19 Dec 17, 2012
Donkey love.
guitarzan

United States

#22 Dec 18, 2012
new member wrote:
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You're explaining how non union personnel can help to contribute to the demise of unions. Everybody, go out and secure positions in the 'union' shops, enjoy all the benefits and refuse to pay dues.
Not much of a poker player are you?
that's the way the deck's been stacked by the lame duck backdoor dealers. And, those are the cards dealt. Gotta wonder if they've seen what happens to card cheats.

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