5 things to know about Mich. right-to...

5 things to know about Mich. right-to-work bills

There are 62 comments on the Daily Journal story from Dec 11, 2012, titled 5 things to know about Mich. right-to-work bills. In it, Daily Journal reports that:

It isn't about a right to work but rather a right for workers to choose whether they want to join a union or pay fees similar to union dues.

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Robert

Douglasville, GA

#1 Dec 11, 2012
THE NAME IS MISLEADING, misleading just try and see if you have a right work at one of these closed shops in non right to work states without joining the union and tell me how it works out for you. Basically they are telling you that you have to do something just because 51% of other workers want to do it.

What this is really about is Michigan is sick of seeing auto manufacturing plants open up in the south.
Sheik Yerbouti

Pennington, NJ

#2 Dec 11, 2012
'right to work' laws usually mean the 'right to work' for LESS!!
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#3 Dec 11, 2012
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:
'right to work' laws usually mean the 'right to work' for LESS!!
That's exactly right. When you peel away all the rhetoric, this bill will equal more low pay/poor benefit jobs for Americans. The factories in Michigan were one of the last bastions of middle class labor in America. It was one of few jobs left where you could work with your hands and can make a decent living. We will be just another third world shithole by the time my niece and nephews grow up. I'm so glad I never had children. I would feel like a piece of shit for bringing children into this world.
Brian

Edwardsville, IL

#4 Dec 11, 2012
Unions killed the Michigan auto industry and they killed Hostess Twinkies as well...union greed
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#5 Dec 11, 2012
Brian wrote:
Unions killed the Michigan auto industry and they killed Hostess Twinkies as well...union greed
Bullshit. It was bad sales.
Pooooooocy

Hanoi, Vietnam

#6 Dec 11, 2012
Robert wrote:
THE NAME IS MISLEADING, misleading just try and see if you have a right work at one of these closed shops in non right to work states without joining the union and tell me how it works out for you. Basically they are telling you that you have to do something just because 51% of other workers want to do it.
What this is really about is Michigan is sick of seeing auto manufacturing plants open up in the south.
Mitchigan!!!;-000000000h, here U go with Daddy.com how about GA?;)
Pooooooocy

Hanoi, Vietnam

#7 Dec 11, 2012
mandate vs mandaileee bonjour Obama"dam!;-00
Brian

Edwardsville, IL

#8 Dec 11, 2012
Send those union dodos to work camps where they can learn to work for once in their disgusting lives
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#9 Dec 11, 2012
BEWARE AMERICA, Governor Snyder campaigned as a "moderate Republican". Now he is showing his true colors.

The people of the State of Michigan were locked out of the Capitol in Lansing while the Republicans pushed through their radical agenda during a lame duck session with NO DEBATE. Right TO WORK FOR LESS is only ONE of their radical new laws.

Governor Snyder, backed by out-of-State ALEC forces, has declared war on the people of the State of Michigan.

A few Republicans even voted against the new laws, but there are almost NO moderate Republicans anymore. They, including the governor, are under constant threat by the the radicals to be dethroned in primaries.

There is ONLY one solution: a GENERAL STRIKE.

All members of ALL unions need to strike in protest of the dictatorial way that these new laws were passed.

The laws are anti-Middle Class, anti-women, anti-Public Education, anti-safety, and anti-environment, just like in the third world countries where the Republicans like to do business.

Please spread the word that we need a GENERAL STRIKE. There hasn't be one in the US since the 1940's. One day squawking at the Capitol will accomplish NOTHING. It will fall on dead ears. A GENERAL STRIKE will force our elected officials to listen.

Wake up, AMERICA. As goes Michigan, so goes the country. The BILLIONAIRES have declared WAR on the MIDDLE CLASS and the BILLIONAIRES are WINNING.

They shoved this crap through because they know they wouldn't succeed doing so in January.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#10 Dec 11, 2012
Snydley is a wolf in nerd clothes.

Question: Why would a billionaire want to be governor or president????

Answer: Change all the laws to benefit billionaires.
Brian

Edwardsville, IL

#11 Dec 11, 2012
The middle class will thrive now that it will not be forced to overpay for union labor.
Unskillled labor has no place in the middle classes anyway. Send them back to the bottom of the barell where they belong
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#12 Dec 11, 2012
Brian wrote:
The middle class will thrive now that it will not be forced to overpay for union labor.
Unskillled labor has no place in the middle classes anyway. Send them back to the bottom of the barell where they belong
BS! If that were true, why haven't prices decreased when jobs were shipped to China. The higher profits were just pocked by the CEO's.
You Ex

United States

#13 Dec 11, 2012
Brian wrote:
Unions killed the Michigan auto industry and they killed Hostess Twinkies as well...union greed
But at least the
Executives of Hostess
Got their
Million Dollar
Pensions.
And the ones who got to stay on are getting
$1,300,000.00
Each as
"reasonable compensation"
During the liquidation
Brian

Edwardsville, IL

#14 Dec 11, 2012
Makes sense wrote:
<quoted text>
BS! If that were true, why haven't prices decreased when jobs were shipped to China. The higher profits were just pocked by the CEO's.
Many prices have gone down. Check out the prices on shoes for example. Shoes were going through the roof when they were union made in the USA. Now one can get a reasonably priced pair at WalMart any day of the week
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#15 Dec 11, 2012
Brian wrote:
<quoted text>Many prices have gone down. Check out the prices on shoes for example. Shoes were going through the roof when they were union made in the USA. Now one can get a reasonably priced pair at WalMart any day of the week
The prices have not gone down as much as wages have remained stagnant and those Chinese shoes only last three to six months. So you have to buy more pairs more often. There is nothing "reasonable" about making shoes disposable. If fact, we are filling landfills at an unreasonable rate. The old shoes lasted years and could even be donated to charities. As such, the inflation numbers are highly skewed. Moreover, people making union wages were able to enjoy being part of the Middle Class. They could AFFORD to buy better shoes. We are not in a race to the bottom. We are competing with China, a country without even minimal laws with respect to safety, human rights, and the environment.
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#16 Dec 11, 2012
Brian wrote:
<quoted text>Many prices have gone down. Check out the prices on shoes for example. Shoes were going through the roof when they were union made in the USA. Now one can get a reasonably priced pair at WalMart any day of the week
Shoes haven't been made in USA for at least 30 years. Besides... I would rather pay more for shoes knowing I was supporting my fellow Americans than save a few dollars today that I will have to end up paying out anyway tomorrow in the form of Unemployment Insurance or food stamps.
Brian

Edwardsville, IL

#17 Dec 11, 2012
To bigin with prices staying stagnant is quite a feat with the value of the dollar dueto the massive printing of money to pay for entitlements and welfare
The American standard of living continues to increase thanks to Walmart and its competitors.
By the way the Lexus I bought last year has only been in the shop for an oil change. The GMC pickup I alsdo bought that year had the armrest fall off on the way home and has assorted issues. American union quality is just a bunch of hyperbole preached bt drunken loudmouths
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#18 Dec 11, 2012
Brian wrote:
<quoted text>Many prices have gone down. Check out the prices on shoes for example. Shoes were going through the roof when they were union made in the USA. Now one can get a reasonably priced pair at WalMart any day of the week
PS: If you shop at walmart, you are part of the problem. How about having a few quality-made things that you can look at in good conscience, rather than a house full of soon-to-be landfill material.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#19 Dec 11, 2012
Brian wrote:
To bigin with prices staying stagnant is quite a feat with the value of the dollar dueto the massive printing of money to pay for entitlements and welfare
The American standard of living continues to increase thanks to Walmart and its competitors.
By the way the Lexus I bought last year has only been in the shop for an oil change. The GMC pickup I alsdo bought that year had the armrest fall off on the way home and has assorted issues. American union quality is just a bunch of hyperbole preached bt drunken loudmouths
You're really full of crap. You think our standard of living is increasing??? LOL

We work 24/7 and ALL of our assets are worth less than what we paid. I'm glad you think it makes sense to buy a Lexus and a paper mcmansion, money down the drain for the perception of wealth. You can put lipstick on a pig all you want, but the rest of us won't buy it ANYMORE.
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#20 Dec 11, 2012
Some Random Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Shoes haven't been made in USA for at least 30 years. Besides... I would rather pay more for shoes knowing I was supporting my fellow Americans than save a few dollars today that I will have to end up paying out anyway tomorrow in the form of Unemployment Insurance or food stamps.
YOU are the definition of PATRIOTIC.

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