Plasan R&D leaving town

Plasan R&D leaving town

There are 38 comments on the Bennington Banner story from Dec 15, 2010, titled Plasan R&D leaving town. In it, Bennington Banner reports that:

The research and development arm of Plasan Carbon Composites is moving to a small town in Michigan, lured by state and local government tax breaks, and its proximity to a rebounding auto industry.

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Just wait and see

Brighton, MA

#1 Dec 15, 2010
This is how Bijur went out . Moved bit by bit out of town. Then say oh no jobs will lost. Yea right Well can't blame them if a good deal was found. We can blame our so called town. Happy Now town puppets !
another company gone

Deerfield Beach, FL

#2 Dec 16, 2010
and the hit`s just keep on coming !!
Lets change this

Barre, VT

#4 Dec 16, 2010
I am wondering. Who is responsible for businesses leaving our area for better tax breaks? State Government, Local, or both?

What can we, as citizen's, do to get this changed?

We need to do something about this, we can't afford to sit back and just keep allowing it to go on.

Where do we start?
Vermont Transplant

Bennington, VT

#5 Dec 16, 2010
What next? It just keeps getting better and better around here.
NoNothings

Harwich, MA

#6 Dec 16, 2010
Lets change this wrote:
I am wondering. Who is responsible for businesses leaving our area for better tax breaks? State Government, Local, or both?
What can we, as citizen's, do to get this changed?
We need to do something about this, we can't afford to sit back and just keep allowing it to go on.
Where do we start?
Run for office
Lets change this

Barre, VT

#7 Dec 16, 2010
NoNothings wrote:
<quoted text>
Run for office
I'm not Government material.
not surprised

Bennington, VT

#8 Dec 16, 2010
Bennington officials will just throw their hands up and not even try. Trying requires effort
EJF

Cambridge, MA

#9 Dec 16, 2010
not surprised wrote:
Bennington officials will just throw their hands up and not even try. Trying requires effort
If there were any experience outside of service industry or goverment in any of the offices, there might be hope. Has anyone in office around here actually manufactured anything that's not sold in a trinket shop?
Chum

Bennington, VT

#10 Dec 16, 2010
""I know that we all think that Detroit and Michigan are all dead in terms of manufacturing jobs, but the reality is research and development remains," he said. "They don’t get on a plane anymore to see suppliers. You’ve got to be in Detroit. "

This statement tells me that Plasan would have moved the facility with or without tax breaks.
LOOPYL

Bennington, VT

#11 Dec 16, 2010
corporations are evil
done time in vermont

Argyle, NY

#12 Dec 16, 2010
this is the beginning if the end for plasan,wait and see
Vter

Bennington, VT

#13 Dec 16, 2010
....and when the Wisconsin new biz incentives are played out they'll just move to someplace else that offers hand-outs to "new" companies.

Since: Nov 10

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#14 Dec 16, 2010
They're moving to a state who WANTS them.

Michigan is in a depression, and the former governor raised taxes, and businesses fled en masse. The new Governor is CUTTING taxes, so employers will come to the state and EMPLOY people, who in turn will create more jobs with the money they make.

Works every time it's tried.

Since: Nov 10

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#15 Dec 16, 2010
Also look at the price of electricity. For industrial use, vermont is 9.48 cents per KwH, while Michigan is 7.62 cents per KwH.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/electricity/epm/table5...
GrnMtnBoy

United States

#16 Dec 16, 2010
Lets change this wrote:
I am wondering. Who is responsible for businesses leaving our area for better tax breaks? State Government, Local, or both?
What can we, as citizen's, do to get this changed?
We need to do something about this, we can't afford to sit back and just keep allowing it to go on.
Where do we start?
What can we do? Where do we start?

Get rid of our "elected officials" who refuse to listen to the voters. Even after last November's election, those remaining in office just don't get it.

There is so much government spending, spending for their own expansion and job security. It has to stop.

Call and write your reps., tell them enough is enough and your vote will reflect their actions. Either there is improvement or they're gone. If enough people do it, change can happen.
DBTT

Arlington, VT

#17 Dec 16, 2010
Plasan will be leaving the area, the armor division has what can be considered zero work right now with no projects on the horizon. At least they continue to pay some of their workers to just push brooms, but how long will that last? All they have done is take the management that ran Carbon into the ground and transplanted them in the armor division, makes sense. Plasan Carbon is just a money losing machine. Maybe both need management that has a slight clue as to what is happening and what manufacturing is all about.
grim reaper

Bennington, VT

#18 Dec 16, 2010
bennington is going to be a grave yard no matter how you look at the situation.. i guess you can throw in the state of vermont also...
patriot

United States

#19 Dec 16, 2010
Wixom, Michigan, is just north of Detroit. It is the longtime home of a well-known Lincoln assembly plant. Michigan has three advantages: Cheap electricity (from water power), a very highly educated workforce with advanced technical skills, and Governor Granholm. In the last instance, she has embarked on a really aggressive campaign to lure tech business to the state by offering not only tax breaks, but a highly skilled and motivated workforce that's eager to find good-paying jobs. Vermont doesn't have that. Period. Any of it. Have the people who whine on these boards held their old-boy politicians accountable, or their children who can barely read, or their neighbors who are looking for a handout even though they're bodily able to work? Michigan knows plenty about job losses. Its leadership simply decided to fight back. They worked harder to lure employment than Vermont in general, or Bennington in particular.
done time in vermont

Argyle, NY

#20 Dec 16, 2010
how do you think the bypass will help bennington? All the people travelling will go right around here, there will be nothing for them to stop, except for an arrest and a court date.Vermont is going to be a wasteland in 10 years.
goseabees

Ripton, VT

#21 Dec 16, 2010
Plasan isn't stupid. They know they got all they can from Leaky Leahy in pork so now they'll go to a desolate state that's in the toliet. They'll keep the cheap labor in Vt because the unions won't let them pay the same in MI. It boils down to follow the money trail & taxes-taxes-taxes.

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