Mass. Bill Would Ban Sexual Orientation Therapy

Jul 16, 2013 Full story: EDGE 253

Gay rights activists are planning to gather at the Statehouse in support of a bill that would ban therapy on minors that seeks to change their sexual orientation.

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HumanSpirit

High Springs, FL

#34 Jul 31, 2013
Any bill that would prohibit a licensed professional in Massachusetts from engaging in any practice that seeks to impose a change in the "sexual orientation or gender identity" of anyone under 18 would have to include those minors in which the pharmaceutical mind drugs prescribe by a mental health worker altered a personal behavior and created a homosexual behavior as a result. That would include secondary effects of the mind drugs. The bill may have some advantage in stopping the reckless mind drugging of the population including children in grade schools by the Mental health Industry even though the intention of the bill is in the opposite direction of preserving the natural behavior of a homosexual.
Rose Feratu

Hoboken, NJ

#35 Jul 31, 2013
HumanSpirit wrote:
Any bill that would prohibit a licensed professional in Massachusetts from engaging in any practice that seeks to impose a change in the "sexual orientation or gender identity" of anyone under 18 would have to include those minors in which the pharmaceutical mind drugs prescribe by a mental health worker altered a personal behavior and created a homosexual behavior as a result. That would include secondary effects of the mind drugs. The bill may have some advantage in stopping the reckless mind drugging of the population including children in grade schools by the Mental health Industry even though the intention of the bill is in the opposite direction of preserving the natural behavior of a homosexual.
Pharmaceutical drugs do NOT turn people gay. You are an idiot.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#36 Jul 31, 2013
HumanSpirit wrote:
Any bill that would prohibit a licensed professional in Massachusetts from engaging in any practice that seeks to impose a change in the "sexual orientation or gender identity" of anyone under 18 would have to include those minors in which the pharmaceutical mind drugs prescribe by a mental health worker altered a personal behavior and created a homosexual behavior as a result. That would include secondary effects of the mind drugs. The bill may have some advantage in stopping the reckless mind drugging of the population including children in grade schools by the Mental health Industry even though the intention of the bill is in the opposite direction of preserving the natural behavior of a homosexual.
Gay people existed long before we had medical drugs. That sort of destroys your whole conspiracy nuttery.
HumanSpirit

Interlachen, FL

#38 Aug 2, 2013
Rose Feratu wrote:
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Pharmaceutical drugs do NOT turn people gay. You are an idiot.
Changes of personalities by chemistry has already been established and is excepted by medical science.
HumanSpirit

Interlachen, FL

#39 Aug 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Gay people existed long before we had medical drugs. That sort of destroys your whole conspiracy nuttery.
There is a natural chemistry to the brain that I mentioned earlier. Read and comprehend.

Here is a prime example of brain changes and pharmaceutical chemicals.

Antidepressants linked to major personality changes

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/natio...

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Personality Change
http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx...

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The (APA) DSM-V is the future version of the Mein Kampf.

Bombs and bullets will be replaced with mind drugs and psychotherapy (false memory) in future generations.

That's certainly what Aldus Huxley predicted with his fictional Soma and it came true

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#40 Aug 2, 2013
HumanSpirit wrote:
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There is a natural chemistry to the brain that I mentioned earlier. Read and comprehend.
Here is a prime example of brain changes and pharmaceutical chemicals.
Antidepressants linked to major personality changes
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/natio...
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Personality Change
http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx...
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The (APA) DSM-V is the future version of the Mein Kampf.
Bombs and bullets will be replaced with mind drugs and psychotherapy (false memory) in future generations.
That's certainly what Aldus Huxley predicted with his fictional Soma and it came true
I know way more about how the brain works than you, and no, medical drugs are not the cause of homosexuality, again, homosexuality has existed long before medicine. That alone destroys your conspiracy nonsense.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#41 Aug 2, 2013
homosexuality is not a personality trait; it's innate. Not one case of drugs making someone gay has been verified.

If, as you say, drugs cause changes in personality traits then those traits must be chemical in nature. Changes therefore must result from chemical imbalances, which you say don't exist.
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
Changes of personalities by chemistry has already been established and is excepted by medical science.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#42 Aug 2, 2013
Mr Cruise, you're wanted on the set. Put down the e-meter.
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a natural chemistry to the brain that I mentioned earlier. Read and comprehend.
Here is a prime example of brain changes and pharmaceutical chemicals.
Antidepressants linked to major personality changes
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/natio...
------
Personality Change
http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx...
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The (APA) DSM-V is the future version of the Mein Kampf.
Bombs and bullets will be replaced with mind drugs and psychotherapy (false memory) in future generations.
That's certainly what Aldus Huxley predicted with his fictional Soma and it came true
Rose Feratu

Hoboken, NJ

#43 Aug 3, 2013
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
Changes of personalities by chemistry has already been established and is excepted by medical science.
...and what does that have to do with being gay????????
HumanSpirit

Interlachen, FL

#44 Aug 4, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
I know way more about how the brain works than you, and no, medical drugs are not the cause of homosexuality, again, homosexuality has existed long before medicine. That alone destroys your conspiracy nonsense.
Chemistry to the biological brain is something you need to brush up on.

You sound like your on the right road: "homosexuality has existed long before medicine"
HumanSpirit

Interlachen, FL

#45 Aug 4, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Mr Cruise, you're wanted on the set. Put down the e-meter.
<quoted text>
Not a scientologist.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#46 Aug 4, 2013
Rose Feratu wrote:
Isn't it odd that the people who could benefit the most from psychiatry think it's not a science and attempt to write it off as "opinion."
YOU put in 12 years in Medical School, and THEN you can have an opinion about psychiatry.
Medicinal psychiatry is pretty scientific ... just barely. Most of it's premises are faulty.

It's Freudianism and Neo-Freudianism that's a crock.
HumanSpirit

Interlachen, FL

#47 Aug 4, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
homosexuality is not a personality trait; it's innate. Not one case of drugs making someone gay has been verified.
If, as you say, drugs cause changes in personality traits then those traits must be chemical in nature. Changes therefore must result from chemical imbalances, which you say don't exist.
<quoted text>
All biological brains are different is size, weight and shape. The chemistry is also different per person and also dependent on environmental factors and pharmaceutical factors. Take away your cholesterol and you wouldn't know your name. Increase your Tryptophan for the Amino acids and the change is apparent.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#48 Aug 4, 2013
HumanSpirit wrote:
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All biological brains are different is size, weight and shape. The chemistry is also different per person and also dependent on environmental factors and pharmaceutical factors. Take away your cholesterol and you wouldn't know your name. Increase your Tryptophan for the Amino acids and the change is apparent.
The purely mechanistic perspective doesn't account for far too many things.
HumanSpirit

Interlachen, FL

#49 Aug 5, 2013
snyper wrote:
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The purely mechanistic perspective doesn't account for far too many things.
Lots of people what to hear what satisfies however the evidence for mechanistic perspective of psychology points to mind drugs from the late 1980's to the reversal of the APA several years later with the long fought wars of personal rights and recognitions is noted.

Oversight for the interest in the Human / civil rights of those that were mind drugged without knowledge or permission is absent. It has been shuffled under the rug. What I see is the money factor and the truth not being told by those giving and getting a head-job (so to speak) to protect the $ide effects of the mind drugs.

The Sexual Orientation Therapy can be either side of the fence and that could lead to lawsuits for those that were violated of their natural human rights in selecting sexual orientation of their choosing..

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#50 Aug 5, 2013
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
Lots of people what to hear what satisfies however the evidence for mechanistic perspective of psychology points to mind drugs from the late 1980's to the reversal of the APA several years later with the long fought wars of personal rights and recognitions is noted.
Oversight for the interest in the Human / civil rights of those that were mind drugged without knowledge or permission is absent. It has been shuffled under the rug. What I see is the money factor and the truth not being told by those giving and getting a head-job (so to speak) to protect the $ide effects of the mind drugs.
The Sexual Orientation Therapy can be either side of the fence and that could lead to lawsuits for those that were violated of their natural human rights in selecting sexual orientation of their choosing..
"Sexual Orientation Therapy" is snake oil.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#52 Aug 5, 2013
Which would, again, be the very chemical imbalances you deny even exist. You seem to think doctors just prescribe drugs and that's it; but with most drugs--especially psychotropic drugs--the patient is carefully monitored and the dosages are adjusted to account for individual differences. Often, drugs are changed out when found to be ineffective or having side effects.

you don't know--or want to know--anything about medical pharmacology.
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
All biological brains are different is size, weight and shape. The chemistry is also different per person and also dependent on environmental factors and pharmaceutical factors. Take away your cholesterol and you wouldn't know your name. Increase your Tryptophan for the Amino acids and the change is apparent.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#53 Aug 5, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Which would, again, be the very chemical imbalances you deny even exist. You seem to think doctors just prescribe drugs and that's it; but with most drugs--especially psychotropic drugs--the patient is carefully monitored and the dosages are adjusted to account for individual differences. Often, drugs are changed out when found to be ineffective or having side effects.
you don't know--or want to know--anything about medical pharmacology.
<quoted text>
Bottom line here is that it's none of your business. You and your other half are sterile by choice.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#54 Aug 5, 2013
Yes, this is my business. "Reparative" therapy is a dangerous crock perpetrated against MY community by charlatans. They damage people for profit.

I currently have no "other half" and in any event am not sterile. Do you know what the word means? LOTS of gays have children through various biological means.

Now, now is any of this YOUR business?
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Bottom line here is that it's none of your business. You and your other half are sterile by choice.
HumanSpirit

High Springs, FL

#55 Aug 5, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Which would, again, be the very chemical imbalances you deny even exist. You seem to think doctors just prescribe drugs and that's it; but with most drugs--especially psychotropic drugs--the patient is carefully monitored and the dosages are adjusted to account for individual differences. Often, drugs are changed out when found to be ineffective or having side effects.
you don't know--or want to know--anything about medical pharmacology.
<quoted text>
The APA admitted there was no chemical imbalance and that they lied to drug the population. See Below.

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