What the 2012 election taught us

There are 10323 comments on the The Washington Post story from Nov 6, 2012, titled What the 2012 election taught us. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

We've been scouring the data for clues as to what we should learn from what happened tonight as President Obama relatively easily claimed a second term.

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#7793 Feb 4, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>grain prices would go through the roof if the world economy collapesed? there would really be no price if there is no economy would there...it would be back to a barter economy and gold would be worthless, as it is fiat money...
just like this article say that the value of fiat money depends on the strength of the issuing country's economy which is true and we seen that with the EURO with the european countries which Greece was going to take the EURO down.

Gold is commondity and has Use Value in Society which is why FDR made it illegall to own gold during the Great Depression because of it Use Value to Society which gold was worth more on the Global Market at the time than what the US Dollar was during the Great Depression and was the only way to prop up the value of the US dollar by collecting as much gold as possible at the time but the FIAT money system would have been the answer for FDR's problems.

Executive Order 6102

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_...

FIAT Money

Money which has no intrinsic value and cannot be redeemed for specie or any commodity, but is made legal tender through government decree. All modern paper currencies are fiat money, as are most modern coins. The value of fiat money depends on the strength of the issuing country's economy. Inflation results when a government issues too much fiat money.

http://www.investorwords.com/1928/fiat_money....

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#7794 Feb 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Grain prices would go through the roof too and already already climbed since 2008 because of the value of the US dollar
You're an idiot.

Grain prices fluctuate because of (write this down) supply and demand.

Pay attention: supplies are down because corn requires water to grow and most of this comes from rain.

When there is less rain, there is less corn.

When there is less corn, the prices per bushel go up.

And that if nothing else changes.

What do you suppose happens when demand increase while supplies decrease?

Think hard...

Can you think of something that uses a sh!tload of corn?

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#7795 Feb 4, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Nope.
Let's look at the very first sentence of the Wiki entry... EXACTLY as it comes out...
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Haynes v. United States, 390 U.S. 85 (1968), was a United States Supreme Court decision interpreting the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution's self-incrimination clause. "
lets look at the Background of the Case and what was at issue of Law abiding Citizens vs Non Law abiding Citizens.

The National Firearms Act of 1934 required the registration of certain types of firearms. Miles Edward Haynes was a convicted felon who was charged with failing to register a firearm under the Act. Haynes argued that, because he was a convicted felon and thus prohibited from owning a firearm, requiring him to register was essentially requiring him to make an open admission to the government that he was in violation of the law, which was thus a violation of his right not to incriminate himself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United...

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#7796 Feb 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
Gold is commondity and has Use Value in Society which is why FDR made it illegall to own gold
Nope.

But you are already pretty far behind on proving your statements.

Do you want to work your way forward or backward?

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#7797 Feb 4, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Nope.
But you are already pretty far behind on proving your statements.
Do you want to work your way forward or backward?
nope, you are already pretty far behind on proving your statements.
Do you want to work your way forward or backward?

and you will find gold listed with the other commodities and not the Curriencies

Commodities

http://money.cnn.com/data/commodities/

World Currencies

http://money.cnn.com/data/currencies/
Billy Ringo

Rego Park, NY

#7798 Feb 4, 2013
Stoneman wrote:
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As Sarah Palin made more money last week than you did last year.
And .......... she can see Russia from her veranda !!!!!

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#7799 Feb 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
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nope, you are already pretty far behind on proving your statements.
Highest unemployment since WWII: Ronalda Reagan

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#7800 Feb 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
and you will find gold listed with the other commodities and not the Curriencies
gold isn't a 'Curriencies', dipwad.

What else are you going to prove?

Sun comes up in the east?

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#7801 Feb 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>lets look at the Background of the Case and
Fifth Amendment.

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#7802 Feb 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
The National Firearms Act of 1934 required
Fifth Amendment.

Funny how you skip over the first sentence in the source you list.

The first sentence.

Anything else, honeybunch?

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#7803 Feb 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
'Haynes v. United States, 390 U.S. 85 (1968), was a United States Supreme Court decision interpreting the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution's self-incrimination clause...'

Fifth... amendment.

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#7804 Feb 4, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Highest unemployment since WWII: Ronalda Reagan
I agree its was terrible in the 80's under Ronald Reagan and Reaganomics was a total Failure which added to the Federal Deficit.

Why the GOP should stop invoking Reaganomics

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-02-03...

Reaganomics is dead (long live Reaganomics)

http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/19/news/economy/...

The New American Economy: The Failure of Reaganomics and a New Way Forward

http://www.aei.org/events/2009/11/09/emthe-ne...

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#7805 Feb 4, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Fifth Amendment.
Funny how you skip over the first sentence in the source you list.
The first sentence.
Anything else, honeybunch?
they ruled in favor of the Convict & felons so they could break the law and dont skip out the background of the case which is about law abiding citizens vs non law abiding citizens with the SCOTUS(liberals) ruling in the favor of the non law abiding citizens.

Haynes v. United States

Background of the case

The National Firearms Act of 1934 required the registration of certain types of firearms. Miles Edward Haynes was a convicted felon who was charged with failing to register a firearm under the Act. Haynes argued that, because he was a convicted felon and thus prohibited from owning a firearm, requiring him to register was essentially requiring him to make an open admission to the government that he was in violation of the law, which was thus a violation of his right not to incriminate himself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United...

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#7807 Feb 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
The National Firearms Act of 1934
Haynes v. United States, 390 U.S. 85 (1968), was a United States Supreme Court decision interpreting the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution's self-incrimination clause.

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#7808 Feb 4, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Haynes v. United States, 390 U.S. 85 (1968), was a United States Supreme Court decision interpreting the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution's self-incrimination clause.
it is in Modern Liberal thinking that is at issue right now in New York state because in 1968 if Miles Edward Haynes was a not convicted felon who was charged with failing to register a firearm under the National Firearms Act of 1934 Act and then I could see the ruling as pretaining to Fifth Amendment but it was not dealing with a law abiding citizen but that same Argument is being used in the lawsuit against New York states Gun bun on assault weapons since it is pretaining to law abiding citizens in New York state which the way the modern liberals in New York wrote the law, it self incriminates law abiding citzens if they dont & fail to Register their guns since the new york law requires law abidding gun owners to register most of their guns with the state and requires universal background checks, among other provisions which under the SCOTUS Haynes vs United States its unconstitutional to force law abiding citizens to register their guns since its ok for a convicts and convicted Felons not to be required to register because they can claim it infringes on their 5th amendment rights.

Lawsuit targets New York's post-Sandy Hook gun law

The suit, filed on Tuesday in state Supreme Court in Erie County, is apparently the first to challenge the crackdown on firearms championed by Governor Andrew Cuomo.

Attorney James Tresmond, who is representing the gun owners, asked state Supreme Court Justice Diane Devlin to enjoin the law pending the state's response.

The law was passed on January 15, making New York the first state to enact tougher gun regulations after a gunman shot dead 20 students and six staff members last month at the Sandy Hook school in Newtown, Connecticut.

The law bans assault weapons and magazines that hold more than seven rounds of ammunition, requires gun owners to register most guns with the state and requires universal background checks, among other provisions.

The law also authorizes law enforcement to confiscate guns owned by a mentally ill person, if a mental health professional believes the person poses a threat to himself or others.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/30/us-...

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#7809 Feb 4, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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gold isn't a 'Curriencies', dipwad.
What else are you going to prove?
Sun comes up in the east?
explain that to woodtick57 who says gold is a FIAT Currency.

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#7810 Feb 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>explain that to woodtick57 who says gold is a FIAT Currency.
I jumping into third hand conversations or I end up looking foolish like you.

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#7811 Feb 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>it is in Modern Liberal
Spam.

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#7812 Feb 4, 2013
[QUOTE who="Anonymous of Indy" then I could see the ruling as pretaining to Fifth Amendment but [/QUOTE]

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

fifth amendment.

first line...

your source...

“Constitutionalis t”

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#7813 Feb 5, 2013
Major Republic-an wrote:
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Spitting at you screen while screaming insults will render the same results to you inane questioning.
Dufus, you still haven't answered the question. All it takes is to name a source of money.

Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?

All it takes is a simple source of money to answer the question.

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