What the 2012 election taught us

What the 2012 election taught us

There are 10313 comments on the The Washington Post story from Nov 6, 2012, titled What the 2012 election taught us. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

We've been scouring the data for clues as to what we should learn from what happened tonight as President Obama relatively easily claimed a second term.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Washington Post.

Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#4946 Dec 4, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Big difference in Social & Economical Ideaology during FDR'w time they believed in working for something vs today they dont believe in having to work for it, that is the difference.
Unfortunately those like okb2 believe that success is predicated by luck

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#4947 Dec 4, 2012
Vance1 wrote:
The one inherent vise of Capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings, the only inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of misery.
Right, Capitalism places the Individual first before Society were as Socialism places Society before the Individual as seen here in the United States.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#4948 Dec 4, 2012
GhostofRaygun wrote:
<quoted text>More Trickle Down Crap? If it's so shared then why in the past 30 years has the top gained 387% income and the middle class gained 18%? If it's so shared why 30 years ago was the CEOs pay 23 times more than the worker and today the CEOs pay is an average of almost 400 times more than that of the worker? If it's so shared why do most millionaires and billionaires like Romney pay a tax rate less than the average middle class worker?
Reading comprehension not your strong suit?

"Capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings"
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#4949 Dec 4, 2012
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you an idiot?
Even if the rich save all his money in the bank Capitalism still benefits everyone!!!
Are you high on glue? Please explain how the rich keeping all of their money in the bank (and therefore out of circulation) benefits everyone. I would f*cking LOVE to hear this! Here's your proverbial "rope"; now let's see you hang yourself.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#4950 Dec 4, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Right, Capitalism places the Individual first before Society were as Socialism places Society before the Individual as seen here in the United States.
where has true capitalism ever worked?
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#4951 Dec 4, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>where has true capitalism ever worked?
True capitalism never has been implemented. True, unfettered capitalism would inevitably devour it's weak. The economically weak would either starve to death with "honor", or they would rise up and kill the "ruling" class if they had that option.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#4952 Dec 4, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Right, Capitalism places the Individual first before Society were as Socialism places Society before the Individual as seen here in the United States.
Tell me what freedoms you lost.
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#4953 Dec 4, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Big difference in Social & Economical Ideaology during FDR'w time they believed in working for something vs today they dont believe in having to work for it, that is the difference.
Total bullshit. People still want to earn their way today. It's just getting harder and harder to attain the most basic, simple goals. They keep pushing that carrot further and further away.
Hibernian

Middletown, CT

#4954 Dec 4, 2012
Some Random Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Total bullshit. People still want to earn their way today. It's just getting harder and harder to attain the most basic, simple goals. They keep pushing that carrot further and further away.
Yes, your post is total BS. It's getting easier and easier to sit on your ass and watch your big screen, call your buds on your Obama phone, and trade some food stamps for legal weed.

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#4955 Dec 4, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>where has true capitalism ever worked?
Right here in the USA for the last 200 yrs

Oh I must have forgot, You are a victim
Hibernian

Middletown, CT

#4956 Dec 4, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Tell me what freedoms you lost.
Want to start with the Patriot Act?
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#4957 Dec 4, 2012
Hibernian wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, your post is total BS. It's getting easier and easier to sit on your ass and watch your big screen, call your buds on your Obama phone, and trade some food stamps for legal weed.
Yeah, that's what I do... idiot.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#4958 Dec 4, 2012
Hibernian wrote:
<quoted text>
Want to start with the Patriot Act?
Did that disrupt your freedom to wear car bombs?

Interesting, or clueless, that you credit Obama for the Patriot Act, that was signed into law by George W. Bush.
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#4959 Dec 4, 2012
Hibernian wrote:
<quoted text>
Want to start with the Patriot Act?
The patriot act... wasn't that designed by a republican and passed by another republican?
Hibernian

Middletown, CT

#4960 Dec 4, 2012
Some Random Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, that's what I do... idiot.
Hey, you were the one who posted the virtues of being a parasite earlier today, not me, idiot.

Besides, I obviously didn't mean you personally because I don't know you.

That said, you cannot honestly deny the truths I posted, and there's NO WAY people have the pride and integrity today that people had 60-70 years ago, especially concerning work and employment habits.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#4961 Dec 4, 2012
Some Random Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
The patriot act... wasn't that designed by a republican and passed by another republican?
See above.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#4962 Dec 4, 2012
Some Random Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Total bullshit. People still want to earn their way today. It's just getting harder and harder to attain the most basic, simple goals. They keep pushing that carrot further and further away.
not total Bullshit at all, go to Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago, and I could keep going and show you and so could Bill Cosby.
Hibernian

Middletown, CT

#4963 Dec 4, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Did that disrupt your freedom to wear car bombs?
Interesting, or clueless, that you credit Obama for the Patriot Act, that was signed into law by George W. Bush.
Speaking of clueless, where did I "credit Obama for the Patriot Act"?

I know who signed it into law, I know who extended it.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#4964 Dec 4, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Tell me what freedoms you lost.
It wasn't so long ago that liberals were denouncing President George W. Bush for his administration's violations of civil liberties. It wasn't that long ago that panic gripped civil liberties advocates about the possibility of a "PATRIOT ACT II," which would erode our freedom even more than the first did. From warrantless domestic wiretapping to the use of military tribunals instead of trials for detainees to its authorization of the use of torture ("enhanced interrogation techniques"), the Bush administration was devastating for American civil liberties and, arguably, the Constitution.

When then-Senator Obama began his campaign in 2008, we hailed his promise to shut down the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay. President Obama, of course, has yet to do so.

Instead, we got what Salon.com dubbed "kinder, gentler" military commissions.

Instead, we got President Obama's signature of the National Defense Authorization Act, which included provisions permitting the indefinite detention of American citizens and their rendition to military authorities.(In fairness, Obama did issue a "signing statement" essentially promising not to use these provisions. However, these is no legal mechanism to hold him to that promise, nor is there any assurance that future presidents will do the same.)

Instead of a president dedicated to the preservation and even restoration of civil liberties we had thought we voted in, we got a president who is now being criticized for not protecting our civil liberties by the lawyer responsible for justifying the Bush administration's authorization of torture. The Los Angeles Times ran an op-ed titled, "Obama: A disaster for civil liberties."

Yet for some reason, American liberals have fallen deafeningly silent about President Obama's failures when it comes to civil liberties. Most of my left-leaning friends will concede that this administration has been disappointing on civil liberties -- it is hard to argue otherwise. But while some may grudgingly concede the president's failures on protecting civil liberties, few do so with the passion and urgency they once did under our previous president.

Why? Certainly part of it has to do with the fact that the current president is a Democrat, and there is a degree of partisan loyalty at work -- just as, under President Bush, many Republicans remained close-mouthed about his violations of civil liberties (which were not few). But there is something else at work here. That is, many liberals are loathe to criticize President Obama for any failure, out of a fear that, if they do, we will have someone much, much worse come January 2013. The Obama administration has learned from this, and has realized that it can get away with nearly anything without worrying about still having to court the left.

read more
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/noah-baron/obam...
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#4965 Dec 4, 2012
Hibernian wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe he said there are two "Air Force One" planes. Technically, he would be correct. Whatever...I'm not here to quibble over semantics.
lol! No son, he's not.

Clearly you don't understand how it works... the same way he doesn't!

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