Obama gets it wrong, bayonets still used in the military

Oct 23, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Washington Times

During tonight's final presidential debate, Gov. Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama sparred over the likely defense budget sequestration scheduled to happen later this year.

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downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1703 Nov 24, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Dong licker is trying to draw you into a hypothetical situation so he can continue to fling his monkey poo at the POTUS.
I am curious as to the circumstances where Mitt Romney ran away to France when avoiding the draft in the US. Did he swear allegiance to France?
Certainly, there is as much support behind Romney's apparent defection and renouncing of his American citizenship as there is Obama's- and of course, by coming back to the US after the danger of being drafted was over, his flip flopping on the citizenship question was a precursor of political behavior to come.
Psycho babble, courtesy of the Barefooted Flamer.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1704 Nov 24, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Even Palin laughs at birthers.


Your point? She also laughs at Barack Obama.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1705 Nov 24, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Gull Chit!
From the link you posted! http://www.ehow.com/how_5663456_lose-citizens...
"the law ensures that nothing short of court-tried treason and self-renunciation can result in the loss of citizenship. To lose citizenship, you must self-renounce voluntarily in a formal ceremony, in writing or in a self-aware act."
Citizenship in America is a birth-right. You are forever a citizen of the United States until you formally write a request to renounce your American citizenship.
What don't you understand?
Reading is fundamental!
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When 18 years of age or older, self renunciation of US citizenship is a requirement to get an Indonesian citizenship since Indonesia does nor recognize dual citizenship.

Obtaining Indonesian citizenship

-if having Indonesian citizenship will not give the person dual citizenship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_natio...
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1706 Nov 24, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Birther nut.
Anti-birther nut.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1707 Nov 24, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
You don't have any concept or knowledge of Indonesia Citizenship Law.
Why would a child renounce his citizenship, he's not old enough to make that determination, and further more, Indonesia nor Spain for that matter dictates citizenship laws in America.
<quoted text>


Indonesian citizenship laws? Try Google .

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#1708 Nov 24, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Anti-birther nut.
Birther nut.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1709 Nov 24, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Birther nut.
Anti-birther nut.

Since: Nov 11

Auckland, New Zealand

#1710 Nov 24, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Anti-birther nut.
I'm assuming you're a so-called 'birther'. Well I'd like to smash your conspiracy theory to pieces if you don't mind. So any 'evidence' you have (preferably links), post it up and I'll counter it at some stage today or tomorrow...
El Cid

Austin, TX

#1711 Nov 24, 2012
I retired from 25 years of military service in 2008 and yes, was still issued a bayonet and yes, they are still used. Used mine last in 2005 in the Congo on a government soldier I found cooking a Pygmie to eat, roasting her over a open fire like a pig. I shot two other soldiers as they came out of their hut for dinner and my team members shot the remaining three soldiers as we found them in their camp.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1712 Nov 24, 2012
InCrEaSe_ThE_PeAcE wrote:
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I'm assuming you're a so-called 'birther'. Well I'd like to smash your conspiracy theory to pieces if you don't mind. So any 'evidence' you have (preferably links), post it up and I'll counter it at some stage today or tomorrow...
Okay, let's assume Obama was born in Hawaii which makes him a US citizen. He is adopted by his step father and goes to school in Indonesia. Indonesia required you to be a citizen of that nation to go to school there which he did so he gave up his citizenship as a child but US law says he doesn't lose his US citizenship if he was a minor when this occurred so he is still a US citizen. So far, so good.

Retired U.S.Postal Worker Allen Hulton recently signed a sworn affidavit for the Maricopa County, Arizona Cold Case Posse convened by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, attesting under oath, to conversations with Mary Ayers, the mother of Bill Ayers. He made his testimony public in a three hour long taped interviewed on March 19th, 2012. Mr. Hutton, by signing an affidavit has subjected himself to laws regarding perjury, not something to be taken lightly as telling the truth is now for him a requirement of law.

His testimony states Mary and Tom Ayers , parents of the former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers, were sponsoring Barack Obama as a foreign student, and financially supporting his education.. Ayers and Obama worked together in the Annenberg Challenge Project in Chicago. as well as the Woods Fund of Chicago.
If Hulton is correct, and Obama was introduced to Hulton as a foreign Student, this means Barack Hussein Obama would have been using a foreign passport to get and prove his foreign student status for entrance into Occidental College, Columbia, and later Harvard Universities. Because Hulton has signed an Affidavit, this cannot be disregarded as mere hearsay; it is instead evidentiary in nature. Further,if the foreign passport was Indonesian, Barack Obama would have had to intentionally renounce his US citizenship after the age of 18 to secure an adult Indonesian passport since Indonesia does not recognize dual citizenship.If Obama applied for college aid as a foreign student while still a US citizen he would be committing fraud.
conservative crapola

Whitehall, PA

#1713 Nov 24, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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birther nutjob.

Since: Nov 11

Auckland, New Zealand

#1714 Nov 24, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Okay, let's assume Obama was born in Hawaii which makes him a US citizen. He is adopted by his step father and goes to school in Indonesia. Indonesia required you to be a citizen of that nation to go to school there which he did so he gave up his citizenship as a child but US law says he doesn't lose his US citizenship if he was a minor when this occurred so he is still a US citizen. So far, so good.
Retired U.S.Postal Worker Allen Hulton recently signed a sworn affidavit for the Maricopa County, Arizona Cold Case Posse convened by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, attesting under oath, to conversations with Mary Ayers, the mother of Bill Ayers. He made his testimony public in a three hour long taped interviewed on March 19th, 2012. Mr. Hutton, by signing an affidavit has subjected himself to laws regarding perjury, not something to be taken lightly as telling the truth is now for him a requirement of law.
His testimony states Mary and Tom Ayers , parents of the former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers, were sponsoring Barack Obama as a foreign student, and financially supporting his education.. Ayers and Obama worked together in the Annenberg Challenge Project in Chicago. as well as the Woods Fund of Chicago.
If Hulton is correct, and Obama was introduced to Hulton as a foreign Student, this means Barack Hussein Obama would have been using a foreign passport to get and prove his foreign student status for entrance into Occidental College, Columbia, and later Harvard Universities. Because Hulton has signed an Affidavit, this cannot be disregarded as mere hearsay; it is instead evidentiary in nature. Further,if the foreign passport was Indonesian, Barack Obama would have had to intentionally renounce his US citizenship after the age of 18 to secure an adult Indonesian passport since Indonesia does not recognize dual citizenship.If Obama applied for college aid as a foreign student while still a US citizen he would be committing fraud.
There's a problem with Allen Hulton's account. He says the 'meeting' was in the mid 80's, yet Obama and Bill Ayers did not meet until the mid 90's. And when queried if he did in fact speak to Obama in the 90's, he did not deny it. So clearly doesn't even remember the DECADE this incident occurred. How do you explain that?? Read this, and you'll see that Obama WAS on a scholarship to Occidental but definitely not a foreign scholarship. It also explains that Obama was definitely under the name Barry Obama during his time at that school...

http://factcheck.org/2009/05/was-obama-born-i...

A fullbrighton scholarship (the scholarship Obama was supposedly on) is intended for Masters degrees and PhD's, not Freshman's or Sophomores. So how do you explain this??

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#1715 Nov 24, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Okay, let's assume Obama was born in Hawaii which makes him a US citizen. He is adopted by his step father and goes to school in Indonesia. Indonesia required you to be a citizen of that nation to go to school there which he did so he gave up his citizenship as a child but US law says he doesn't lose his US citizenship if he was a minor when this occurred so he is still a US citizen. So far, so good.
Retired U.S.Postal Worker Allen Hulton recently signed a sworn affidavit for the Maricopa County, Arizona Cold Case Posse convened by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, attesting under oath, to conversations with Mary Ayers, the mother of Bill Ayers. He made his testimony public in a three hour long taped interviewed on March 19th, 2012. Mr. Hutton, by signing an affidavit has subjected himself to laws regarding perjury, not something to be taken lightly as telling the truth is now for him a requirement of law.
His testimony states Mary and Tom Ayers , parents of the former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers, were sponsoring Barack Obama as a foreign student, and financially supporting his education.. Ayers and Obama worked together in the Annenberg Challenge Project in Chicago. as well as the Woods Fund of Chicago.
If Hulton is correct, and Obama was introduced to Hulton as a foreign Student, this means Barack Hussein Obama would have been using a foreign passport to get and prove his foreign student status for entrance into Occidental College, Columbia, and later Harvard Universities. Because Hulton has signed an Affidavit, this cannot be disregarded as mere hearsay; it is instead evidentiary in nature. Further,if the foreign passport was Indonesian, Barack Obama would have had to intentionally renounce his US citizenship after the age of 18 to secure an adult Indonesian passport since Indonesia does not recognize dual citizenship.If Obama applied for college aid as a foreign student while still a US citizen he would be committing fraud.
birther nutjob
SpongeBob

Staten Island, NY

#1716 Nov 24, 2012
El Cid wrote:
I retired from 25 years of military service in 2008 and yes, was still issued a bayonet and yes, they are still used. Used mine last in 2005 in the Congo on a government soldier I found cooking a Pygmie to eat, roasting her over a open fire like a pig. I shot two other soldiers as they came out of their hut for dinner and my team members shot the remaining three soldiers as we found them in their camp.
Yeah, but...Obama did say "fewer" and it seems like he was right...

The Army said today it has 419,155 bayonets in its inventory. The Marine Corps has another 195,334 bayonets that it bought in 2004 and it plans on buying 175,061 more bayonets this year. A Marine official says itís not accurate to add the two totals together as the new ones will include replacements for ones already in service as well as additional stocks.

Bayonets are standard issue for Marines deployed to combat areas, though they donít necessarily carry them with them when theyíre on patrol.

Several soldiers who spoke to ABC News said that deploying with bayonets to Iraq and Afghanistan varied from unit to unit. While not a requirement one soldier said they were available if needed.

However, a 2011 Stars and Stripes article quoted a former Army official as saying bayonets had not been issued to soldiers deploying in Iraq and Afghanistan. In 2010 the Army dropped bayonet training for its recruits in basic training.

The Army also reported today that it has 176 horses. The horses kept at Fort Myer, Va., are used mainly for ceremonial duties at Arlington Cemetery and the Capital region. There are also some horses located at Fort Hood, Texas.

The Marine Mountain Warfare Training Center in California trains Marines in using horses, mules and donkeys to carry supplies in mountainous regions.
t clms

Victoria, Canada

#1717 Nov 24, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Your point? She also laughs at Barack Obama.
She didn't laugh at her black boyfriend...
t clms

Victoria, Canada

#1718 Nov 24, 2012
conservative crapola wrote:
<quoted text>
birther nutjob.
and his team, lost, the election...

all their propaganda didn't work.....

what's next...

Obama is from Mars??

You know the president of the US cannot be from mars!!!
Impeach him immediately.

Look at the red symbols under his collar...

Tell the Tea Party...
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#1719 Nov 24, 2012
You've disqualified you own argument, he wasn't 18 at the time.
downhill246 wrote:
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When 18 years of age or older, self renunciation of US citizenship is a requirement to get an Indonesian citizenship since Indonesia does nor recognize dual citizenship.
Obtaining Indonesian citizenship
-if having Indonesian citizenship will not give the person dual citizenship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_natio...
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#1720 Nov 24, 2012
Any child under the age of 18 can't renounce his American Citizen Ship, and Indonesia no Child under the age of 18 can submit to becoming a citizen of Indonesia. However by the marriage of his mother to an Indonesian Man, the child under 18 is granted limited Indonesian citizenship that is revoked automatically at the age of 18
downhill246 wrote:
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Okay, let's assume Obama was born in Hawaii which makes him a US citizen. He is adopted by his step father and goes to school in Indonesia. Indonesia required you to be a citizen of that nation to go to school there which he did so he gave up his citizenship as a child but US law says he doesn't lose his US citizenship if he was a minor when this occurred so he is still a US citizen. So far, so good.
Retired U.S.Postal Worker Allen Hulton recently signed a sworn affidavit for the Maricopa County, Arizona Cold Case Posse convened by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, attesting under oath, to conversations with Mary Ayers, the mother of Bill Ayers. He made his testimony public in a three hour long taped interviewed on March 19th, 2012. Mr. Hutton, by signing an affidavit has subjected himself to laws regarding perjury, not something to be taken lightly as telling the truth is now for him a requirement of law.
His testimony states Mary and Tom Ayers , parents of the former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers, were sponsoring Barack Obama as a foreign student, and financially supporting his education.. Ayers and Obama worked together in the Annenberg Challenge Project in Chicago. as well as the Woods Fund of Chicago.
If Hulton is correct, and Obama was introduced to Hulton as a foreign Student, this means Barack Hussein Obama would have been using a foreign passport to get and prove his foreign student status for entrance into Occidental College, Columbia, and later Harvard Universities. Because Hulton has signed an Affidavit, this cannot be disregarded as mere hearsay; it is instead evidentiary in nature. Further,if the foreign passport was Indonesian, Barack Obama would have had to intentionally renounce his US citizenship after the age of 18 to secure an adult Indonesian passport since Indonesia does not recognize dual citizenship.If Obama applied for college aid as a foreign student while still a US citizen he would be committing fraud.

Since: Jul 12

Washington, DC

#1724 Nov 25, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
When 18 years of age or older, self renunciation of US citizenship is a requirement to get an Indonesian citizenship since Indonesia does nor recognize dual citizenship.
Obtaining Indonesian citizenship
-if having Indonesian citizenship will not give the person dual citizenship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_natio...
1. What was the law when he got his passport?

2. Was he younger or older than 18?

3. Was his intent to obtain an Indonesian passport or was it to stop being a citizen of the United States?

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1726 Nov 26, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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1. What was the law when he got his passport?
donglicker doesn't respond with facts.

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