Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 223366 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#77323 Feb 24, 2013
And Langy, did you watch the very short video that I linked?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#77324 Feb 24, 2013
Christianity has been clearly defined, SZ. It is a cult.Christians are religious cult members. No. Question about it.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

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#77325 Feb 24, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Well atheist are trying to change the meaning to mean that.
Atheist sure have a hard time keeping your believes straight.
Yet alone just the definition of the word atheist.
Merriam - Webster
athe·ist\ˈā-thē-ist\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity
"who believes". That's a positive assertion. Seeing as there is no proof of your belief It's FAITH.
Faith:
"Synonyms: devotion, piety, religion"
Ah yes Atheism is a Religion.
Have a nice day and don't forget to go to church.
Posted else where by derek4
From: The Columbus Dispatch:
February 4, 2011
Church, without God
“Stan Bradley likes Bible stories, admires Martin Luther and uses expressions such as 'heavens, no.'
The Lithopolis man is president of a local congregation and rarely misses a Sunday service. Occasionally, he goes to his wife's church instead.
For these and other reasons, Bradley considers himself religious.”
He is also an atheist.
continued:
“Like Bradley, some atheists participate in organized religion for its social and psychological benefits.”
continued:
“Churches are great places to find friends, support and youth education, so nonbelievers and believers alike join congregations to fill those needs, he said.
He has spoken to elderly and sick people who can no longer go to church and they say they most miss the feeling of community.
Recent research from Harvard University and the University of Wisconsin backs him up. It found that religious people tend to be happier than nonreligious people, not because of belief but because of the friendships found at church.”
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/faith...
“religious people tend to be happier than nonreligious people”[I have said this all along, and my posts are still on the board to confirm it. Now you hear it straight from the atheist, lol.]
Apart from it having christian composers i would say that Merriam-Webster is annoying and fails as a dictionary by being obtuse in it's definitions.
A definition is not supposed to repeat the very word it tries to clarify and define.(ex. process)

And we would not have this discussion of atheism as a believe if people would use a different dictionary.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

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#77326 Feb 24, 2013
Description
God in the Age of Science? is a critical examination of strategies for the philosophical defense of religious belief. The main options may be presented as the end nodes of a decision tree for religious believers. The faithful can interpret a creedal statement (e.g. "God exists") either as a truth claim, or otherwise. If it is a truth claim, they can either be warranted to endorse it without evidence, or not. Finally, if evidence is needed, should its evidential support be assessed by the same logical criteria that we use in evaluating evidence in science, or not? Each of these options has been defended by prominent analytic philosophers of religion.

In part I Herman Philipse assesses these options and argues that the most promising for believers who want to be justified in accepting their creed in our scientific age is the Bayesian cumulative case strategy developed by Richard Swinburne. Parts II and III are devoted to an in-depth analysis of this case for theism. Using a "strategy of subsidiary arguments," Philipse concludes (1) that theism cannot be stated meaningfully; (2) that if theism were meaningful, it would have no predictive power concerning existing evidence, so that Bayesian arguments cannot get started; and (3) that if the Bayesian cumulative case strategy did work, one should conclude that atheism is more probable than theism. Philipse provides a careful, rigorous, and original critique of theism in the world today.
Features
A powerful response to philosophical attempts to justify religious belief

Engages head-on with Richard Swinburne and other leading philosophers of religion

Original and elegant arguments; written in a clear and accessible style

Reviews
"A rigorous but fair critique of the central problems of natural theology that forces readers to take atheism seriously."--CHOICE

Product Details
400 pages; 9.2 x 6.1; ISBN13: 978-0-19-969753-3
ISBN10: 0-19-969753-1

About the Author(s)
Herman Philipse is Distinguished University Professor at the University of Utrecht.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#77327 Feb 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>I said that the writers of it were Christians. It is a lie to try to use strawman arguments.

So once again, let's be fair. If you are going to let Christians define what the word atheism means then to be fair you have to let atheists define the word "Christian".
" It is a lie to try to use strawman arguments"

So why do you try?

It's not a Christian Doctrine.
It is and has been for like 100+
Years the dictionary of the English language.

You just don't like what the word atheist means. Try using the word agnostic if you don't like atheist.

And quit running around like little kids claiming we're picking on you when we are just using the correct definition.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#77328 Feb 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
And Langy, did you watch the very short video that I linked?
Yes.

Like I've alway said science can't get dates right.

Go Figure!

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#77329 Feb 24, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
" It is a lie to try to use strawman arguments"
So why do you try?
It's not a Christian Doctrine.
It is and has been for like 100+
Years the dictionary of the English language.
You just don't like what the word atheist means. Try using the word agnostic if you don't like atheist.
And quit running around like little kids claiming we're picking on you when we are just using the correct definition.
You really are an idiot, aren't you?

Do you need your strawman argument identified? Do you even know what a strawman argument is? Probably not. Most creatards don't understand the mistakes that they are making.

As I said, I don't mind how a Christian defines atheism, as long as he can back it up, if he does not mind how I define Christianity.

Once again, your definition is lacking. It is not quite correct.

And I see that you are ignoring the video that I linked.

For creatard literalists who believe in their Noah's Ark nonsense it simply points out how ridiculous the claim that there was a World Wide Flood and then in just a hundred years that there were several cities and the nation of Egypt. Not to mention the millions of people in the rest of the world.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#77331 Feb 24, 2013
"And I see that you are ignoring the video that I linked."

Nope. I gave it the appropriate amount of attention.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#77332 Feb 24, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
"And I see that you are ignoring the video that I linked."
Nope. I gave it the appropriate amount of attention.
Good, then you admit that your idiotic beliefs about the Ark are debunked. I am so happy to hear that.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#77333 Feb 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
I said that the writers of it were Christians. It is a lie to try to use strawman arguments.
So once again, let's be fair. If you are going to let Christians define what the word atheism means then to be fair you have to let atheists define the word "Christian".
Yes, they are. Here's the actual historical meaning of the word:

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php...

I know research is not something you are good at, so I offered some help.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#77334 Feb 24, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, they are. Here's the actual historical meaning of the word:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php...
I know research is not something you are good at, so I offered some help.
Moi???

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#77335 Feb 24, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Moi???
>.< I quoted the wrong one. lol

Sorry, slept all day because of illness and clicked the wrong Reply.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#77336 Feb 24, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
So now Merriam-Webster is a Christian dictionary?
Please! LOL
Your argument is getting ridicules.
Yes, they are. Here's the actual historical meaning of the word:

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php...

I know research is not something you are good at, so I offered some help.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#77337 Feb 24, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
>.< I quoted the wrong one. lol
Sorry, slept all day because of illness and clicked the wrong Reply.
Definitely LOL.

No harm, no foul. Thank you for the laugh.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

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#77338 Feb 25, 2013
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02040a.htm
How the churchfathers defined it.
Frankly you would have to read al Iraneus ever wrote as well as Eusebius to even get an idea of all though that was declared anathema.

“Maccullochella macquariensis”

Since: May 08

Melbourne, Australia

#77339 Feb 25, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
Chip, Chip, Chip...for the umpteenth time, that is not irony. Do no use words you do not understand....
Why should he stop now when he's on a roll?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#77340 Feb 25, 2013
Bluenose wrote:
<quoted text>
Why should he stop now when he's on a roll?
In Chuckie's defense, English is his second language.

Of course, it's also mine...

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

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#77341 Feb 25, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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I could think of others words more fitting to describe you.:)
I'm sure you could.

I'm equally sure you'd be wrong.

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#77343 Feb 25, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Trash!
Atheism and Theism are both belief system.
No one can defeat God, except they can defeat death.
Your delusion is irrelevant

Atheism is to religion like not collecting stamps is to philately

“Be strong ...”

Since: Nov 10

...I whispered to my coffee

#77344 Feb 25, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Trash!
Many that have these same large mouth as you are, are long dead and forgotten.
No one can defeat the almighty.
Nope fact, however you are welcome to your delusion if it makes you feel better

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