Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222920 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#53292 Oct 17, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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Our hero finds himself exhausted on the floor of the temple. Suddenly, yet another tomb bat, the dreaded scholastic quote bat, is coming at him to punish him with arcane words of old English.
He thinks to himself, "I think I AM!" Sadly, the bat is Italian and cannot conjugate without clear masculine and feminine verb action. He switched over to American and gives the bat a fatal concussion with his pistol butt, never realizing the poor choreography!
He left the tomb and began his journey back to civilization.
Quite entertaining?
A word to all, truth is bitter.

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#53294 Oct 17, 2012
DanFromSmithville wrote:
Math is a science and a language.
Mathematics is a language, but it is not a science. It does not use the scientific method.

If mathematics were a science, we would not have universities or colleges with academic units known as "science and mathematics". They would just be "science".

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#53295 Oct 17, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
But your pals never agreed that, Mathematics is a science.
Because it isn't.

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#53296 Oct 17, 2012
straa wrote:
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So is the Koran, so is that also must be the truth
That is your take.
Take a critical observation of the koran, and you will find its similarities with the bible. The Islamic founder, was influenced by the bible, that influence, led him to the writing of the koran, he blended that, with Arabic culture.

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#53297 Oct 17, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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No, sorry. You clearly have not studied the science of evolution. Evolution IS a proven fact. It is no longer questioned in science because of the tons (literally) of evidence. There is no guessing involved. There are multiple lines of data (the holy grail of scientific proof) from different fields of science.
Just because you ignore the evidence does not mean the evidence does not exist.
AND you are still ignoring the fact the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of devoted Christians (all of whom are smarter and more informed than you) have no problem with the science of evolution nor any other science.
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??? We are not talking about disproving the creations of God or at the expense of any faith (except pseudoscience). We are talking about the fact of evolution.
Furthermore, you have just denied the understanding of hundreds of millions of Christians from around the world. Do you understand that you just did that?
Please reread what I wrote and try to look into the matter more deeply.
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Dogen wrote:
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This is incorrect.
1. Evolution has no stand on God, beliefs, theology, etc.
2. The theory of evolution was first proposed by a man who believed in god.
3. The early supporters of the theory were mostly Christians.
4. Major Christian universities nearly all teach evolution in their science department.
5. The majority of U.S. Christian denominations that have expressed an opinion on Evolution have stated that it does not conflict with Christian beliefs.
6. Millions of biological scientists around the world are Christians or members of other theistic religions.
7. Clergy Letter Project
http://www.theclergyletterproject.org/
8. Thank God For Evolution
www.thankgodforevolution.com/
Also, Evolution IS a science. In fact (as I have told you before) it is one of the hallmark sciences in terms of explication of the scientific method. Darwin is regarded, among scientists, and one of the 3 greatest scientists of all time. It is also the science that has more material evidence than any other theory in the history of science.
Evolution is BOTH a Theory AND a FACT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_fact_and_t ...
I hope this helps you clarify your mispreception of evolution as being somehow "anti - godly beliefs".
You are welcome.
Evolution?
The same old fabricated stories...

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#53298 Oct 17, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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A typo. What the heck was your next sentence about?
I am just trying to help. If you wrote in your native language we could run it through babelfish and get a choppy but probably understandable translation. Then we could, possibly, understand what you are talking about.
Then stop that...
It is a simple and easy fact, no one is above perfection, including you, Mr. English?
Lol.

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#53299 Oct 17, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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Again, I don't think you understood what I wrote. Here is the post you replied to. Please note that your response makes no sense as a reply to what I said.
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As understanding what is in people heads (hearts) is my profession I hope I at least have some, god given, skill in that regard! Please typo the number 4 at the beginning of your reply if you read this far. Again, your response was off topic as I never claimed to be god. I was just trying to help you with your anger and self esteem issues.
I also try to help you with your English. For my efforts I receive nothing but vitriol from you. I guess appreciation is a bit to much to expect for my service to you.
Help your self. I don't need your help. If you really wanted to help, the monkeys, chimps, gorillas and others, are there, go to them.
Lol.

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#53300 Oct 17, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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That, other could not do????
Sorry, again your meaning is lost in translation. Many ancient books are widely read. The Tao Te Ching is available in over 100 languages and is the most popular book in the two largest countries in the world.
If you have never read it I highly recommend the Jane English translation. But that is in the English language. You might get more out of the Icelandic version.
The facts are there, the bible is one of the world's most read religious books. If i am not mistaken, it could even be, the number one book in the world.

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#53301 Oct 17, 2012
Dogen wrote:
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Not sure what you are saying or what I0 means.
I was just demonstrating your logic in the example did not work.
In logic your conclusion needs to follow from your premises. Yours did not do that.
One million, fifty thousand, two hundred thousand, and the likes, are all exaggerations. No one was born then. This is just guessing and projections.

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#53302 Oct 17, 2012
I love getting on this thread and just reading the comments. Arguing with idiots is pointless but entertaining. Please continue posting. Reading the posts is better than watching a three stooges marathon! Can you guess which one who is posting is the dumbest stooge?

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#53303 Oct 17, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
No. Chemistry and physics discover new information about the real world, because they use the scientific method.
Mathematics does not, because it doesn't.
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To the accurate categorization of science vs. mathematics.
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Because most professions *use* mathematics and English. That *still* doesn't make mathematics a science.
You are contradicting yourself. We are in the world of science and art. Maths( science) and English, in addition to other languages( arts) proved that...

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#53304 Oct 17, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
No. Chemistry and physics discover new information about the real world, because they use the scientific method.
Mathematics does not, because it doesn't.
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To the accurate categorization of science vs. mathematics.
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Because most professions *use* mathematics and English. That *still* doesn't make mathematics a science.
Correction:
Most professions, don't use Maths. Mathematics is compulsory for them, to achieve their dreams of a successful professionals. Mathematics is a must for them.

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#53305 Oct 17, 2012
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The facts are there, the bible is one of the world's most read religious books. If i am not mistaken, it could even be, the number one book in the world.
So what will your argument be should the Qu'ran become the number one book?

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#53306 Oct 17, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
No. Chemistry and physics discover new information about the real world, because they use the scientific method.
Mathematics does not, because it doesn't.
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To the accurate categorization of science vs. mathematics.
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Because most professions *use* mathematics and English. That *still* doesn't make mathematics a science.
No.
I want you to know that, there is a difference between " use " and " requirement ". Maths ( a type of science), is needed in all the scientific profession. It is a must.

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#53307 Oct 17, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
No. Chemistry and physics discover new information about the real world, because they use the scientific method.
Mathematics does not, because it doesn't.
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To the accurate categorization of science vs. mathematics.
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Because most professions *use* mathematics and English. That *still* doesn't make mathematics a science.
No.
There is no unreal world, except in your imagination. If according to you, maths is unreal, then why are scientist using it compulsorily?
Science without Maths, is a cup with little or no water.

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#53308 Oct 17, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
No. With physics and chemistry, you are learning facts and theories about the real world. You may be learning some terminology, but that terminology is in an existing language (such as English or French or German).
With mathematics, you are not learning facts and theories about the real world. You are learning symbols and the grammar rules to manipulate them. Just as with learning any other language.
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Nobody here said otherwise, so what's your point?
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Which *still* doesn't make mathematics a science. Mathematics is a type of language. It has symbols and a set of rules to manipulate the symbols in a meaningful way.
Mathematics, in clear terms, is not a language, but can be likened to that (language, a form of art, such as English, French, etc ).
If Maths is unreal according to you, why is it a compulsory requirement in the sciences?

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#53309 Oct 17, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
No. Chemistry and physics discover new information about the real world, because they use the scientific method.
Mathematics does not, because it doesn't.
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Which *still* doesn't make mathematics a science.
And if that aspect of Mathematics, are completely out of physics, physics, Chemistry would no longer be a complete science.
That is why your analogy is wrong.

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#53310 Oct 17, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
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Which schools teach which things does not change the fact that (1) mathematics is a type of language and (2) mathematics is not a type of science.
No.
Mathematics is a science and all subjects or courses are a type of language. All are important to mankind.

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#53311 Oct 17, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
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Physics and chemistry are not types of languages. They are types of science.
Languages are not the only things that people learn. They also learn things that are not languages.
Tell that to the dogs.
Since Physics and Chemistry are man made, they just a type of language...

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#53312 Oct 17, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
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What is "your country"? Does it have a name?
My country is personal to me, but for this purpose, i will tell you my continent, my continent is Africa.

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