Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221446 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“Stuffs gettin better ”

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#51244 Oct 8, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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So where is that proof?? Where or when can I see it?
I never said there was proof.
I said there is as much proof as there is that Man evolved from apes.
LOL

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2012

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#51245 Oct 8, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Oh, by the way, there is no missing link anymore, all the evidence has come together with DNA's contribution to the archaeological and paleoanthropological evidence.
One more gap closed for you guys
Then it is as I suspected, apes did in fact evolve from liberals.

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“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#51246 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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I never said there was proof.
I said there is as much proof as there is that Man evolved from apes.
LOL
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2012
Then you probably need to check into what DNA science has been up to lately. You can also visit the Smithsonian: http://humanorigins.si.edu/

Also, we know there was never an Adam and Eve.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#51247 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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Then it is as I suspected, apes did in fact evolve from liberals.
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
Oh yeah, you probably have some small percentage of Neanderthal blood/genes in your body.
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#51248 Oct 8, 2012
Subduction Zone wrote:
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And of course it was a survey based upon Americans, not the whole world.
Of Course.......Like Anyone Else Really Matters ?
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#51249 Oct 8, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Then you probably need to check into what DNA science has been up to lately. You can also visit the Smithsonian: http://humanorigins.si.edu/
Also, we know there was never an Adam and Eve.
You, And They, Dont Know SQuat.....Just Floundering For A Vowel.

I Could Bury A Rabbit Carcass, Say 100 Years Ago....Some Scientologist Would Have You Believe It was A New Realitive Of The Hobbit Family.

Lets No Let Real Facts Get In Your Or Their Way.
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#51250 Oct 8, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Oh yeah, you probably have some small percentage of Neanderthal blood/genes in your body.
With Your Analogy, Women Should Be Called Prickupines....If They Had As Many Pricks Sticking Out Of Them, As They Had Stuck In Them.
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#51251 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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Then it is as I suspected, apes did in fact evolve from liberals.
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
Its Worse Then We Thought...Look In The White House....Odumbo IS The Missing Link.
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#51252 Oct 8, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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I keep looking for proof of god...and I can find none...can you help me??
You Can Lead A Horse To Water.....But If Hes To Stupid To Drink...???

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#51253 Oct 8, 2012
wolverine wrote:
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Lets No Let Real Facts Get In Your Or Their Way.
Yeah that seems to be the creationists credo. Present them with a fact and they deny it.

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#51254 Oct 8, 2012
thewordofme wrote:
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Oh yeah, you probably have some small percentage of Neanderthal blood/genes in your body.
There is no genetic connection between Neanderthal and modern Man.

In 1999, the skeleton of a child was unearthed in Lapido, Portugal. Dated to around 25,000 years ago, the remains show a mixture of Neanderthal and modern features, suggesting it may be a hybrid. But small fragments of Neanderthal DNA extracted from three different specimens show that they were not closely related to any present day human populations.

The global paleoanthropological and archaeological picture changed dramatically with the sudden and unexpected appearance of Homo Sapiens Sapiens (Cro-Magnon or Modern Man).

There has been a great deal of effort by evolutionists in the last century to "construct" an evolutionary link between Neanderthals and Cro-magnons, but to date, none has ever been proven to be accurate or true. Several of the attempts were actually proven to be deliberate frauds.

NOTE: The oldest “prehistoric” cave drawings and paintings, petroglyphs and other forms of stone art are estimated to be from 20,000 years ago. Many of the academic community have inaccurately portrayed the early artists as Neanderthal man, but Neanderthals were virtually exterminated by our Cro-Magnon ancestors 25-50,000 years ago.
http://www.ancestryofman.com/annihilation.htm...
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#51255 Oct 8, 2012
I Must Go Help Support The Entitlement Group, Known As Obama Supporters, Now.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#51256 Oct 8, 2012
wolverine wrote:
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You Can Lead A Horse To Water.....But If Hes To Stupid To Drink...???
Can you help me find that proof??

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#51257 Oct 8, 2012
wolverine wrote:
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Its Worse Then We Thought...Look In The White House....Odumbo IS The Missing Link.
He will be come January.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#51258 Oct 8, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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There is no genetic connection between Neanderthal and modern Man.
In 1999, the skeleton of a child was unearthed in Lapido, Portugal. Dated to around 25,000 years ago, the remains show a mixture of Neanderthal and modern features, suggesting it may be a hybrid. But small fragments of Neanderthal DNA extracted from three different specimens show that they were not closely related to any present day human populations.
The global paleoanthropological and archaeological picture changed dramatically with the sudden and unexpected appearance of Homo Sapiens Sapiens (Cro-Magnon or Modern Man).
There has been a great deal of effort by evolutionists in the last century to "construct" an evolutionary link between Neanderthals and Cro-magnons, but to date, none has ever been proven to be accurate or true. Several of the attempts were actually proven to be deliberate frauds.
NOTE: The oldest “prehistoric” cave drawings and paintings, petroglyphs and other forms of stone art are estimated to be from 20,000 years ago. Many of the academic community have inaccurately portrayed the early artists as Neanderthal man, but Neanderthals were virtually exterminated by our Cro-Magnon ancestors 25-50,000 years ago.
http://www.ancestryofman.com/annihilation.htm...
Bollocks.

"Contrary to the
assumption of many researchers, it would appear that some Neandertals and early modern humans interbred.
According to the researchers’ calculations, between one and four percent of the DNA of many humans living
today originate from the Neandertal. "Those of us who live outside Africa carry a little Neandertal DNA in
us." -, Svante Pääbo, Max Planck Institute.

Full text and attribution here: http://www.eva.mpg.de/neandertal/press/pressk...

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#51259 Oct 9, 2012
anonymous wrote:
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Excuse moi, Monsieur! Devonian "Period"!
Il n'est pas du quoi!
Even God borks his scientific Latin when ordering from the menu.
Oi! Merci!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#51261 Oct 9, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
"The Dude wrote:
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Yes. Dembski is an idiot. He's a mathematician, not a scientist, and not a very good one. Thermodynamics doesn't work the way creationists think it does otherwise you would not be alive to talk about it (for some reason they love to make up BS why evolution is wrong and inadvertently destroy all life on Earth, or sometimes the entire universe) and as for ID? It is so far undemonstrated. "
E=MC^2
Looks like math.
Smells like math.
Taste like math.
I think it is math you Fi(ken MORON!
Yup, it's math alright. But math isn't science. What the equation is doing there is being APPLIED to scientific phenomena. Math is a LANGUAGE being APPLIED to science. But it doesn't have to be. Math can also be used for abstract or non-reality models - for example you can have a mathematical model of a two-dimensional universe that is logical, internally consistent, and can crunch whatever numbers you like. But since it does not describe our universe then it has no bearing on reality (since we do NOT exist in a two-dimensional universe). Math is a language, and just as English can describe the fictional stories of Star Wars, or say, the Bible, math can quite easily describe non-reality phenomena such as a 2-dimensional universe.

Oh, and your equation which you so helpfully left for us, apart from being slightly outdated (we have a longer more accurate version now) has very little to do with how thermodynamics applies to the reproduction of biological organisms.
Langoliers wrote:
"Perhaps the most devastating, non-scriptural argument against Evolutionism and for the Truth of the Bible and Creation is that of the Second Law of Thermodynamics."
http://objectiveministries.org/creation/slot....
What a Dolt
Oh, and your little reality-denying Young Earth linky fails also. Here's a translation:

"EVILUSHUN IZ RONG CUZ IT VIOLATES THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS THEREFORE GODDIDIT WITH MAGIC! By uh... violating the... second law of thermodynamics...(darn)"

You fundies debunk yourselves and you don't even know it.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#51263 Oct 9, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
Dude! You changed out your piss rug yet?
"Return to BibleProbe
Visit the Message Board
Atheism Hits a Brick Wall:
The First Law of Thermodynamics
By Chuck Missler (From his Book "The Creator Beyond Time and Space")
Missler is an apologetics crank, not a scientist.
Langoliers wrote:
The First Law of Thermodynamics asserts that matter or its energy equivalent can neither be created nor destroyed under natural circumstances.1 One of the logical outcomes of this law is that there is no new matter or energy appearing anywhere in the universe, nor is there any matter being annihilated. All matter and energy in the universe is conserved. Consequently, this law is often referred to as the Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy. Although matter can neither be created nor destroyed, it can be converted from one state to another, i.e. from a liquid to a gas, liquid to solid, solid to gas. The overwhelming experience of experimental physics confirms this First Law to be a fact. As we shall see, this law has enormous implications regarding the origin of matter in our universe.
First of all, none of this is relevant is relevant to evolution anyway so doesn't really have any bearing on the thread. Second of all it doesn't take quantum physics into account, whereby particle/anti-particle pairs can spontaneously appear in a vaccuum (this has been scientifically observed) which basically means you have positive energy seemingly appearing out of nowhere but balanced out by negative energy and hence not violating the first rule of thermodynamics.
Langoliers wrote:
Proton Decay
Protons are positively charged particles which reside in the nucleus of every atom. Each proton consists of a least three quarks. For decades it was assumed that protons were eternally stable. However, physicists now believe that quarks decay into antiquarks, pions and positive electrons, and electromagnetic radiation.2 This decay process occurs at a rate of only once per proton per 1032 years. Consequently, since this process is irreversible, all the atoms in the universe will eventually decay into irretrievable matter. Even though this process of decay will take an enormously long period of time, it is not infinite."
Again, since we are currently alive and generally takes DECADES or sometimes even over a century before entropy finally takes its toll on human beings, the phenomena you've presented is not enough to prevent evolution from occurring.

It's also quite baffling why you are copy-pasting scientific claims based on the premise of an old Earth in an attempt to justify Young Earth creationism, and doubly baffling that you are referring to uniformitarian decay rates when you creationists constantly rely on NON-uniformitarianism when you claim (without a shred of evidence) that decay rates "could" have been completely different in the past - otherwise knowns as the "How do YOU know? Where you THERE?!?" argument.

I thank you once again for a shining example of creationist ignorance and intellectual inconsistency.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#51264 Oct 9, 2012
Langoliers wrote:
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"No statement about the real world can be "proven absolutely"
Here is an absolute proven fact in the real world. "You're reading this right now"
And the ironic part is you just posted an equation from Einstein's theory of relativity...

(snicker)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#51265 Oct 9, 2012
President Starky wrote:
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There is more testimony of Gods existence than there is of a missing link.
It's the 21st century, you're on the internet, and you've had information handed to you on a plate.

The ONLY explanation for you being over a century out of date is that you WANT to be ignorant.
President Starky wrote:
In fact, most oath's of office require that the person taking the oath swear to God.
Actually I think there are only around 6 states which have such laws on the books, and even then they're not always enforced. I recall an atheist being elected as mayor, and stayed there despite the fact some fundie congressman or something tried pointing out the laws for that state. As it stands though, the laws (whether they were pre or post First Amendment ratification) are unConstitutional.
President Starky wrote:
People place their hand on a book with Gods words swearing to tell the truth.(So help you God)
And they have the right to swear on something else, such as a book of law, or the Koran.
President Starky wrote:
Do you swear to the missing link that you'll tell the truth next time you post?
:)
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
We know YOU won't.(shrug)

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