Federal grant for broadband access in rural Louisiana rescinded

Oct 27, 2011 Full story: www.nola.com 17

Sen. Mary Landrieu blames the State of Louisiana for losing a federal grant to extend broadband access in rural areas of the state.

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Forrest

United States

#1 Oct 28, 2011
Poor Bill Depew and Ken Dawson. Maybe now they'll have to find real jobs.
Doctor Love

Paulina, LA

#2 Oct 28, 2011
This has nothing to do with WF. It would have went thru Pointe Coupee, Avoyelles, and other parishes north of Avoyelles.

The board of regents screwed the pooch. Another example of the quality of our educational leadership.
OSCAR the Orkin Man

Saint Francisville, LA

#3 Oct 29, 2011
Forrest wrote:
Poor Bill Depew and Ken Dawson. Maybe now they'll have to find real jobs.
Why do you think that either of these people would have benefited from the Broadband project. It was directed towards poor parishes in Central La., Indian Tribes and Community Anchor institutions. Don't think they qualify under any of those criteria. It was for people in this state that do not have access to broadband service (the unserved and under served). It was 80 mil to be used to bring service to the unserved areas. Sad for those folks. Though some people may not understand it, it is as important as water and electricity now in terms of advancing towards the future.
More fodder to feed on

Baton Rouge, LA

#5 Oct 29, 2011
Let the bashing begin. Self worth enhancement will now commence.
Concerned2

Saint Francisville, LA

#6 Oct 30, 2011
OSCAR the Orkin Man wrote:
<quoted text> Why do you think that either of these people would have benefited from the Broadband project. It was directed towards poor parishes in Central La., Indian Tribes and Community Anchor institutions. Don't think they qualify under any of those criteria. It was for people in this state that do not have access to broadband service (the unserved and under served). It was 80 mil to be used to bring service to the unserved areas. Sad for those folks. Though some people may not understand it, it is as important as water and electricity now in terms of advancing towards the future.
These guys were directing the grant application for the parish and could have benefitted from their roles in the application of funds from the grant, although I am not saying that they would have. Although this would have benefitted the parish, if you read the fine print AT&T was planning on adding a surcharge to users to help pay for the grant and longterm the expense would have shifted away from AT&T the way I understand it. So who pays for something like that when the grant provider quits paying for it? Usually the local or state government. Both of these entities are funds strapped, so they are leery about going after funding for projects that they will have to pick up the tab for later. The quote from the board of regents, folks who didn't really pursue the grant stated that they were concerned about sustainability. Maybe I am wrong but that is what I understood from reading all the news articles on this.
Family First

Saint Francisville, LA

#7 Oct 30, 2011
Concerned2 wrote:
<quoted text>These guys were directing the grant application for the parish and could have benefitted from their roles in the application of funds from the grant, although I am not saying that they would have. Although this would have benefitted the parish, if you read the fine print AT&T was planning on adding a surcharge to users to help pay for the grant and longterm the expense would have shifted away from AT&T the way I understand it. So who pays for something like that when the grant provider quits paying for it? Usually the local or state government. Both of these entities are funds strapped, so they are leery about going after funding for projects that they will have to pick up the tab for later. The quote from the board of regents, folks who didn't really pursue the grant stated that they were concerned about sustainability. Maybe I am wrong but that is what I understood from reading all the news articles on this.
The model for the grants is the exact same model that the RUS used to get elec to rural homes in the 40's. Gulf States, DEMCO type cooperatives own and run the utility and charge rates that maintain the service. What people have a hard time understanding is that bandwidth is not a consumable that had to be produced. The service is to provide a
Concerned2

Saint Francisville, LA

#8 Oct 31, 2011
Family First wrote:
<quoted text>
The model for the grants is the exact same model that the RUS used to get elec to rural homes in the 40's. Gulf States, DEMCO type cooperatives own and run the utility and charge rates that maintain the service. What people have a hard time understanding is that bandwidth is not a consumable that had to be produced. The service is to provide a
The procedure used by power companies to provide service to rural areas involves extra charges to customers not in those areas. Have any of us really read all the extra charges on our phone and power bills? For example, our power bill is 'rounded up' to take care of those who have problems paying their bills if I understand it. So using that logic shouldn't every merchant round up every customer's bill to cover for those who don't pay their debts? I am not saying that this grant and broadband would not have been good for the parish, but as a consumer who must budget my own money I could certainly understand concern with a grant whose expenses would have been shifted onto consumers or government.
WTF

Philadelphia, PA

#9 Oct 31, 2011
Broadband access is NOT as important as water and electricity! I don't believe there is any home in the parish that does not have access to at least dial up Internet. If more speed is needed and no dsl or cable is available I the area, thy can resort to satellite Internet access like the rest of the world does.
Dont like it? Move.
I should not have to pay for anyone to have internet access, cell phones or public sewer because of where they decide to live, either by increased taxes or fees on my services. This is just another liberal/ sociist idea.
Sociist

Saint Francisville, LA

#10 Oct 31, 2011
WTF wrote:
Broadband access is NOT as important as water and electricity! I don't believe there is any home in the parish that does not have access to at least dial up Internet. If more speed is needed and no dsl or cable is available I the area, thy can resort to satellite Internet access like the rest of the world does.
Dont like it? Move.
I should not have to pay for anyone to have internet access, cell phones or public sewer because of where they decide to live, either by increased taxes or fees on my services. This is just another liberal/ sociist idea.
Them damn Sociist"!
You can drill a water well or carry
It in a bucket, like they did
In 1800.
Candles and logs still work, what do we need that damn electric light for?
We don't need them high tech jobs, we have plenty of $7 per hr jobs.
OSCAR the Orkin Man

Saint Francisville, LA

#11 Nov 5, 2011
Concerned2 wrote:
<quoted text>
These guys were directing the grant application for the parish and could have benefitted from their roles in the application of funds from the grant, although I am not saying that they would have. Although this would have benefitted the parish, if you read the fine print AT&T was planning on adding a surcharge to users to help pay for the grant and longterm the expense would have shifted away from AT&T the way I understand it. So who pays for something like that when the grant provider quits paying for it? Usually the local or state government. Both of these entities are funds strapped, so they are leery about going after funding for projects that they will have to pick up the tab for later. The quote from the board of regents, folks who didn't really pursue the grant stated that they were concerned about sustainability. Maybe I am wrong but that is what I understood from reading all the news articles on this.
Your understanding of this project is incorrect. The parish "Supported" but was not part of the grant process that that RBS did. They were happy to benefit as long as they did not have to do anything or spend any money, which they did not. That grant was not part of the Loni project grant that just got yanked. Also, AT&T had nothing to do with any of these grants other than lobbying to have them killed to keep them from having to compete. The lost 80 mil can be laid at the feet of the Board of Regents and no on else. Others became involved after their failure but by then it was to late to save it. Again, the 80 mil grant was not the same that RBS had applied for.
OSCAR the Orkin Man

Saint Francisville, LA

#12 Nov 5, 2011
WTF wrote:
Broadband access is NOT as important as water and electricity! I don't believe there is any home in the parish that does not have access to at least dial up Internet. If more speed is needed and no dsl or cable is available I the area, thy can resort to satellite Internet access like the rest of the world does.
Dont like it? Move.
I should not have to pay for anyone to have internet access, cell phones or public sewer because of where they decide to live, either by increased taxes or fees on my services. This is just another liberal/ sociist idea.
I should clarify, it is important in order for people to live in the 21st century. Good luck watching a Net flicks movie on that dial up, buckaroo. Just because you don't want or need the service, does not mean that others agree with your life choice. Oh and on the satellite, got one word for you, TREES. They can make that a challenge.
Quote Me

United States

#13 Nov 5, 2011
OSCAR the Orkin Man wrote:
<quoted text>
I should clarify, it is important in order for people to live in the 21st century. Good luck watching a Net flicks movie on that dial up, buckaroo. Just because you don't want or need the service, does not mean that others agree with your life choice. Oh and on the satellite, got one word for you, TREES. They can make that a challenge.
You are so obviously transparent.
WTF

Philadelphia, PA

#15 Nov 6, 2011
So Netflix is a right? A necessity? Come on now, there are better examples of broadband use to prove your case. You are an idiot. Trees can be cut or trimmed to gain the proper satellite view or the satellite can be placed in a remote location, it is done all the time.
I do have dsl, but had dialup for many years. If you think people should have broadband at the expense of others, you are welcome to pay for their service/ wiring/ satellite/ wireless. Many rural areas of the parish. Ow have 3G coverage and can use that network for faster Internet speeds if the trees are hindering their satellite.
Mike

Foley, AL

#16 Nov 6, 2011
WTF wrote:
So Netflix is a right? A necessity? Come on now, there are better examples of broadband use to prove your case. You are an idiot. Trees can be cut or trimmed to gain the proper satellite view or the satellite can be placed in a remote location, it is done all the time.
I do have dsl, but had dialup for many years. If you think people should have broadband at the expense of others, you are welcome to pay for their service/ wiring/ satellite/ wireless. Many rural areas of the parish. Ow have 3G coverage and can use that network for faster Internet speeds if the trees are hindering their satellite.
DSL, cable, Hughes Sat, G3, G4 are minimal for household use. They do not handle data business uploads. If you want to
Attract small or large tech business Fiber network is needed. Consolidated
Fiber networks provide tremendous savings to local gov agencies. Eventually MOBILE wireless will be the carrier for TV, Phone, EOC, Internet access.
By the way the 80mil would have been a revenue generating network, where USERS pay for operational cost, not
Taxpayer. NO FREE ACCESS!
Ricky

Paulina, LA

#17 Nov 6, 2011
Broadband is a great asset for emergency services of all kinds for the relay of critical information in real time. It can save the lives of victims and respondents, alike.

Also, it is essential for the benefits of electronic medical records to be realized. Bone scans, MRI's, and other large digital media files that can save costs and lives cannot be sent over dsl or dial up.

So, I must agree with an earlier poster. We can live without broadband, but we can also live without community sewer, water, and electricity. While broadband is certainly not as essential as those, it definitely is essential to what we regard as modern health care.

We should not let our dislike of individuals who were willing to be central to the process impact the logical decision of supporting an effort that would have had real, significant benefits to our standard of living and quality of life.
Quote Me

United States

#18 Nov 6, 2011
Ricky wrote:
Broadband is a great asset for emergency services of all kinds for the relay of critical information in real time. It can save the lives of victims and respondents, alike.
Also, it is essential for the benefits of electronic medical records to be realized. Bone scans, MRI's, and other large digital media files that can save costs and lives cannot be sent over dsl or dial up.
So, I must agree with an earlier poster. We can live without broadband, but we can also live without community sewer, water, and electricity. While broadband is certainly not as essential as those, it definitely is essential to what we regard as modern health care.
We should not let our dislike of individuals who were willing to be central to the process impact the logical decision of supporting an effort that would have had real, significant benefits to our standard of living and quality of life.
Another nice try, De Poo.
Additionally

Baton Rouge, LA

#19 Nov 6, 2011
WTF wrote:
Broadband access is NOT as important as water and electricity! I don't believe there is any home in the parish that does not have access to at least dial up Internet. If more speed is needed and no dsl or cable is available I the area, thy can resort to satellite Internet access like the rest of the world does.
Dont like it? Move.
I should not have to pay for anyone to have internet access, cell phones or public sewer because of where they decide to live, either by increased taxes or fees on my services. This is just another liberal/ sociist idea.
The WF library also has 10-12 computers available for public use.

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