Job Corps is worth a second look

Job Corps is worth a second look

There are 599 comments on the Kentucky.com story from Mar 22, 2009, titled Job Corps is worth a second look. In it, Kentucky.com reports that:

I know teachers who received pink slips last year and haven't found work yet. I also have unemployed friends who ran training programs to help others find work and now are fighting the sense of uselessness that sometimes accompanies joblessness.

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loving

Wartburg, TN

#336 Jan 14, 2011
great thing
jason Zapata

United States

#337 Jan 15, 2011
1. Pack lite. Don't worry about soap, toothpaste,toobrushes, towels, wash rags,etc. They supply all of that. Bring an electric razor though.
2 Read up on unarmed self defense tactics. 1,001 Fighting Secrets is a good book for beginners. Whatever book you get read it 2 to 3 times.
3. Don't date or sleep with the girls. There dysfunctional. If your a girl vice versa. If your gay or lesbian than just stay out of relationships at job corps because the people there are messed up regardless of sexual orientation.
4. Bring Steel toe boots and where them everywhere. Bring a kubaton is made out of fiberglass or wood. Something that is undetectable by magnetometers.
5. Plan ahead. Enlist in the military or start applying to colleges as soon as you enter the job corps program. Nothing feels worse than being separated from the program with no where else to go but back home with your parents or back to the streets or the salvation army or something.
Diovon-Michaels

United States

#338 Jan 22, 2011
grieving parent wrote:
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My son died at Earl C Clements Job Corps March 2009
i was a student during march of 2009 i know what she means and i remember the death there. This is the real story the kid died after being in a fight because he offended someone accidently. The other kid beat him to death, he was then transported to the infirmary where instead of getting him medical attention, they used their process. which entitles take pictures, ask questions, debate, resolve problem, then get medical treatment so they interrogated him threatened him with expulsion and then question the people thought to be involved. the infirmary thought he was okay and sent him to his dorm to rest then 20 minutes later he asked to go to the hospital they told no, and to sit in the waiting are til the physician could see him, it took 20 minutes and he started having severe breathing problems and then they called the ambulance, The ambulance was stopped by security and questioned and went through processes after the hospital was afraid to send an ambulance on campus because of the violence level. I took 45 minutes for an ambulance to get there and another 20 minutes to get to the hospital. after that we did not here anything until later that night or maybe it was the next couple of days. The job corps said he died of natural causes but we all knew different. we tried to speak out but they said is was an act against the government and we would go to jail. me and my friends set up a memorial and a ceremony under the tree of life for him and we were run out of our time by the security they said we cant hold unauthhorized eventd thst might cause a riot or we will be expelled. My friends cried for three days after that. We were notified of the funeral and was told we could attend and get a pass during class 2 hours after the funeral then we were told that we could attend the memorial tree planting 4 hours after the ceremony. we tried to go to the press and was threatened with treason against the government. so i do say ECCJCA is not a place for your kids it is a place to learn about drugs gangs fighting violence and how to kill someone job corps should be exposed to the press and i think you should be the one grieving mom i will notify my friends of this site and we can come up with a press release i have done them before. my email is [email protected] please contact me asap, and p.s. my heart goes out to you and your family.

Since: Sep 09

Somerset, KY

#339 Jan 25, 2011
I am very sorry for the loss and if everything is true that you are saying then there should be an investigation. Like I have said in previous posts...every center is different. Our center has about 220 students and we take every precaution to stop any violence before it happens. When we see bullying or even hear wind of it we really look into it. I am not saying that it does not happen because any time you get 220 young people from every culture and diversity together there will be people trying to become the "Alpha". We had this recently at our center and the student did not last very long. We just cannot afford to let that 1 % who want to cause trouble ruin that 99% trying to better their life.
Again, I am sorry for the loss of your son. It is tragic.
Logan

Lakewood, WA

#340 Jan 31, 2011
I am so scared I leave tomorrow for the Columbia Basin Job Corps in Washington State, and your comment and everything else I have found on the internet has scared me. Does anyone know what life is like at the Job Corps I am going to, please respond soon.
Omega

Peach Creek, WV

#341 Feb 2, 2011
Student arrested for selling drugs on campus, hes not the only one, that place is a shelter for low life dope heads and a pill mill baby factory needs to be comdemmed and closed.
first hand

Louisville, KY

#342 Feb 7, 2011
I worked at Job Corps for approximately 4 years. I would not send a child of mine there for any reason. If you aren't on the inside you have no idea what really goes on inside the gates.

Since: Sep 09

Somerset, KY

#343 Feb 8, 2011
Omega wrote:
Student arrested for selling drugs on campus, hes not the only one, that place is a shelter for low life dope heads and a pill mill baby factory needs to be comdemmed and closed.
Ok, so you have no arrests in your community for drugs? I have worked at Job Corps for over 2 years now and we have had one incident on center with drugs. Are there drugs here and there on center? Of Course! But show me what high school or small town that does not have drugs? And just like anywhere else, your child has the decision to make whether to do drugs or not to do drugs.
MiamiLife

United States

#344 Feb 8, 2011
I am so sorry to hear about the bad experiences at Earl C. In 1993-94, it was not that bad. It was what u made it and like any situation in life try to avoid trouble. I got lot from earl c in 7 months I had a GED, CNA liscense and 12 college credit hrs. I went straight to college after and I do good for myself now. Job corp gave me a I must admit alot of my peers at the center were not trying, rebel against authority, did drugs, had sex on site, etc. But I did what I went to do. Not everybody is there for the samething.
28 year old HS student

Peach Creek, WV

#345 Feb 9, 2011
PRESTONSBURG – A 28-year-old student at Carl D. Perkins Job Corps Center pleaded not guilty to charges that he had been selling drugs at the school.
Aaron Smith, of Augusta, Ga., was arrested Tuesday at the school and charged with trafficking in a controlled substance within 1,000 yards of a school and trafficking in marijuana.
Arresting officers said Smith was approached by school staff Tuesday and asked if he had marijuana in his possession, at which time he fled on foot, reports said.
“Staff found an amount of marijuana in red baggies in a trash can (Smith) had ran by,” the police report stated.
Following this discovery, police said Smith’s dorm room was searched. They said during that search “several” more red plastic bags were found, along with more than $1,100 in cash.
In their report, police said they considered Smith a flight risk considering his residence is in Georgia and his bond was set then at $25,000 cash.
During his arraignment Wednesday, the 28-year-old Smith entered a plea of not guilty to both charges.
Smith is next scheduled to appear in court for a preliminary hearing on Feb. 8.
Read more: Floyd County Times (KY)- Job Corps student arrested for drugs
Surl Fedayeen

United States

#346 Feb 18, 2011
I can vouch for both the students and former employees who have made posts about job corps above.
During my 11 month stay at Tulsa Job Corps I experienced the bad, the good, and the ugly. Mostly the bad and the ugly. My second week into the program another student was attacked by 50 fellow students (male and female) for disrespecting bloods and crips.(He apparently threw down a red rag and a blue hat and proceeded to stomp on them. They warned him to stop but he continued baiting). I was told that he was knocked to the ground, beat on unconscious, kicked over and over, and then (when someone noticed he had passed out) kicked in the face in order to "help" him regain conscious. I can vouch for it. I saw him about a week later out at the Guard Shack. Rumor had it that he recieved brain damage.
I've read at least 200 posts about people's opinions of the Job Corps Program and the center that they went to. 70% of the posts I've read have been negative. 29% of those posts have been horrifying. 1% of those posts have been positive. That 1% is full of shit.
The bottom line is that there is no sure way to know whether or not the center you go to will be a cesspool of shit (drugs/violence) or not.
I need to bring to your attention an important fact. An average Job Corps center can recieve new pieces of trash every week. For Tulsa Job Corps, it was every Tuesday. That means new people,different personalities, every week. They could be good, the could be bad. Mostly there bad.
So that means that if a job corps center was great in the year 1998 it could be a shithole in the year 2004. That means that YOU, are constantly at risk of being fucked with (I use that term loosely).
Also, potential employers have a tendency to shy away from students and ex students of Job Corps, seeing it as a haven for delinquents. I don't blame them, the program really is crap.
I have no faith in it.
Mind you I'm going back to the program pretty soon here, but I have not faith in it.
Calvin Larsson

United States

#347 Feb 18, 2011
Look, I can't stop you from going. But I do have some information that might help you through the program a little.
Some tips if you will:
1. Most of the violence happens where the most people gather. For Tulsa Job Corps, that was the bleachers, the smoking area. So (obviously, stay away from the bleachers.
2. Make some sacrifices. If you have expensive things, leave them at home. Bring expendable items. All you need is a week worth of clothes. You can wash clothes almost any time for free.
3. When a group of people give you a bad feeling, stay away from them.
4. When you go off campus, do your own thing. Avoid places that are big hang outs for job corps students.
5. Don't smoke the weed at job corps. Job Corps is primarily black (obviously). And black people like to lace there weed. That means that they smoke it that way and they sell it that way. And if you get weed at Job Corps, than you know that it has changed hands through at least one black person. Stay away from it.(Don't get pissed at me if your black, I'm half black myself).
6. Bring steel toe boots. Where them everywhere
7. If you find some scissors on dorm, seize them and sleep with them in I combat ready position (grip).
8. Pack one bag. It doesn't matter if it is a big bag. Just one bag. Job Corps is an unpredictable place and something may happen where you need to leave immediately. Pack light.
9. A person above said that you should learn how to defend yourself. That is true. There is a 80 percent chance that someone will try to punk you at job corps (severely). You'll need to be ready. They don't punk you lightly at job corps. They really aim for fucking you up. Read 1001 fighting street fighting secrets. You can find it for free on a torrent. Here is a website where you can find it. http://btjunkie.org/torrent/1001-Street-Fight... . Don't worry, it's not spam.
10. Don't date anyone there at job corps, and certainly don't bring anyone home with you from Job Corps after you phase out.(You found them at Job Corps, leave them there. They were obviously put there for a reason, because their fucked up).
11. The food at job corps will make you loose weight. It has laxatives in it. There is almost no way to avoid it. So chose your poison. I just thought I'd warn you.
12.Under no circumstances should you mention any of the advice I told you in this post to a recruiting counselor. They will convincingly deny it and say your over reacting. Most Job Corps are not safe, and are certainly nothing like a college campus.
13. Godspeed. If you decide to go, be safe. My heart goes out to you.
melody johnson

Memphis, TN

#349 Feb 21, 2011
hi my name is melody, my parents are strongly suggesting that i go to job corps for my dispels dispelling issues at home do you think thats a wise decision for me to go to job corps. i live in memphis,Tn so i really don't have any insight on job corps other than what i hear from my different peers so i really need help can you please help me i only have a week before the final decision.

Since: Sep 09

Somerset, KY

#350 Feb 22, 2011
Ok, the guy the guy with the Red Oak IP address evidently had bad experiences at his Job Corps. I do not know if this was a contract center or what it was. All I know that the staff can control certain situations and the rest is trying to teach the students about doing the right thing. Our center has recently had some students try out their UFC abilities. This has resulted in one student going home and two students with a lot of community service hours. I suggest anyone who is thinking about going into the program to visit their center. Ask for a student guide and talk to different staff members as well.
Since you are from Memphis you could go to one of many job corps to include our's in Southern Kentucky. Have you already contacted a counselor? What trade are you looking at getting into?
Marquis Liatvin

United States

#351 Mar 1, 2011
I recently graduated from the Job Corps in Tulsa. I'll admit that I too had a ruff time at that center, but for the most part, the experience is what you make of it. The drugs,fights, etc are all avoidable. You just have to go to the program with your head on straight. And you can't give into the peer pressure. Also, if you have a tendency to lean towards bad behavior, as did that person with the Red Oak IP address [I knew him personally] then you ought to reconsider going. It's not for everyone. But then again, it's not completely inaccessible either.
The program is what you make of it. So make the best out of it.

Since: Sep 09

Riverside, CA

#352 Mar 5, 2011
Marquis Liatvin wrote:
I recently graduated from the Job Corps in Tulsa. I'll admit that I too had a ruff time at that center, but for the most part, the experience is what you make of it. The drugs,fights, etc are all avoidable. You just have to go to the program with your head on straight. And you can't give into the peer pressure. Also, if you have a tendency to lean towards bad behavior, as did that person with the Red Oak IP address [I knew him personally] then you ought to reconsider going. It's not for everyone. But then again, it's not completely inaccessible either.
The program is what you make of it. So make the best out of it.
Great post!
McKalie

Moline, IL

#353 Mar 18, 2011
All of these experiences are killing me. I'm afraid not only for my life but for what I am about to see. I have recently decided to attend Job Corps in St. Paul, Minnesota. I know the city isn't very same itself, however this is the only start I have. Thanks to all of the hopelessness the United States has been facing. I can't get a job anywhere and believe me I have applied to more places within and as far around as I am able to reach. Because I lack as much experience as older and more experienced people who have already been dismissed or let go from their previous employment's. This is the only option I really have. Your stories have set me in a dark hole that I am to afraid to maneuver out of. Although many have said trouble is easy to avoid or to make the best of the chance you have been given. I have a tour/interview set for the 31st of March, and am living in fear on what I have just read. I'm nineteen years young and I need to get out of this small town and set foot on the new trail to my own life. 
At first I was excited, to set out into the world basically on my own. Which is a scary thought I must admit because my  one fear upon doing this is being alone. Although there may be several other student's within Job Corps, St. Paul is the cities and trouble doesn't lurk far. If anyone has any information about the Job Corps I mag be attending, I would greatly appreciate your comments. Even if they have fear within them. I think it would be necessary to know and understand the basics according to my new living arrangements. Thank you.
cassandra

United States

#354 Mar 20, 2011
i was at guthrie jb corp for 8 mnths in 2010.at first i was scared to go bcuz of all the violence i heard about it but wen i gt there it was really the oppisite:half the ppl there r gay or bi,i never had ne grls start drama w/me becuz i stayed away frm the ghetto ppl n was n a mstly male trade.so if u keep to urself n try nt to gt involved n other ppls bs,u will b fine!
Misinformed

New York, NY

#355 Mar 22, 2011
employer wrote:
My problem with these types of programs is that an upper middle class white kid will never get a chance to go there. I know this through my experience with the Laborers union. They'll never "qualify".How bout we stop rewarding people who, for the most part, choose to underachieve and start rewarding the ones who work hard and try to achieve.
This is not true. My daughter is going there now. I have a lucrative job and so does her father.

Since: Sep 09

Riverside, CA

#356 Mar 22, 2011
There are students here from all backgrounds and lifestyles. This is why I love working for the Job Corps. I never hear the same life story twice.

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