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Coyotes for sale: Let's stop state's live-bait trade

There are 134 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Oct 22, 2007, titled Coyotes for sale: Let's stop state's live-bait trade. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Our position: The state should ban trappers from selling coyotes to be used as live bait.

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HM Smith

United States

#2 Oct 23, 2007
Get a life, you can't train train on conterfit. You train using the real mccoy. You should be more concerned with making sure that English is the language use in/by goverment and all public meetings.
Herbert Ford

Bringhurst, IN

#3 Oct 23, 2007
How about using pen rabbits to train rabbit dogs, it is the same. Lets ban pen hunting. If you can't tramp through the woods or fields to hunt deer, or any other game to try to get a trophy, then you shouldn't be hunting.

Since: Jul 07

Ashburn, VA

#5 Oct 23, 2007
man would have starved to death thousands of years ago if we had not taught our kids to hunt

Since: Jul 07

Ashburn, VA

#8 Oct 23, 2007
44 mag wrote:
<quoted text>maybe i should start hunting people!
You cold never start hunting people or anything else because from your post you are probably a gun banner too. What hit em in the head with a stick?
Jed

Fairhope, AL

#11 Oct 23, 2007
We just went back to hunting without dogs - the dogs seemed to attract too much attention from everybody wanting to debate using dogs (it does not matter what side they are on) to scare up wild game.
cicero resident

Columbus, OH

#13 Oct 23, 2007
To those that do not live with packs of coyotes in your living space you need to THANK your lucky stars. We have several packs of coyotes a night run past our family farm house. They are so hungry they will fight to eat one of their own if injured. You cannot stand outside at night without a gun in fear of being surrounded by these animals. We just shoot as many at night as we can, then bury what remains there is the next day or so.
DRB

United States

#14 Oct 23, 2007
Ban the trade. Most of these trappers and those they sell the coyotes too are bald face lying if they say they treat the animals humanely.

Trap and dispose of the animal if it is indeed a problem, but do so immediately and pain free.
bartman

Duncan, OK

#16 Oct 23, 2007
44 mag wrote:
<quoted text>you had better work on your spelling,i bet you graduated the 6th grade!!!
I would say the same to you 44 Mag. Start your sentences with captital letters and when referring to yourself you should capitalize "I". They would have taught you that in 7th grade. Come on folks it's a discussion forum, not english class.
trl

Indianapolis, IN

#19 Oct 23, 2007
cicero resident wrote:
To those that do not live with packs of coyotes in your living space you need to THANK your lucky stars. We have several packs of coyotes a night run past our family farm house. They are so hungry they will fight to eat one of their own if injured. You cannot stand outside at night without a gun in fear of being surrounded by these animals. We just shoot as many at night as we can, then bury what remains there is the next day or so.
this is called survival!every living thing on planet earth is born with this need to live on!you can`t blame the coyotes for wanting to live!they didn`t ask to be coyotes,thats what god delt to them.you would eat human flesh if you were hungry enough!you would want to live!

Since: Oct 07

Indianapolis

#20 Oct 23, 2007
(Sigh)...
BUD

Ellettsville, IN

#21 Oct 23, 2007
i dont care
Onlooker

AOL

#22 Oct 23, 2007
cicero resident wrote:
To those that do not live with packs of coyotes in your living space you need to THANK your lucky stars. We have several packs of coyotes a night run past our family farm house. They are so hungry they will fight to eat one of their own if injured. You cannot stand outside at night without a gun in fear of being surrounded by these animals. We just shoot as many at night as we can, then bury what remains there is the next day or so.
I think you are attributing far more aggressive behavior to coyotes than have ever been observed. You are fearful of being surrounded at night?!

Yotes are smart, reclusive pack animals. I listened to a couple of packs last night, with pups trailing along. I don't leave my dogs or cats out at night, and my Lab got in a tangle with 3 yotes in broad daylight (resulting in 20 stitches for her). But it's silly to say you fear being attacked.

Maybe you lived in the city too long?

“Prepare for glory! ”

Since: Sep 07

Columbus, IN

#23 Oct 23, 2007
Herbert Ford wrote:
If you can't tramp through the woods or fields to hunt deer, or any other game to try to get a trophy, then you shouldn't be hunting.
If all you want is a trophy, you shouldn't be hunting.
When I was taught how to hunt, I was taught that I should never shoot at something unless I planned on eating it.
If you can get a nice trophy to go along with your meat, then that is OK, but to kill something just because you want it's head on your wall was not what I was taught.

To get back on the Coyote subject, how many more natural predators are we going to wipe out before we learn a lesson?
If we take out a part of an eco-system, like the predator, that has an adverse effect on the rest of that eco-system, the prey.
Look at all the problems we are having with the deer population. One might wonder if the deer would be over-populated had we not killed off all the wolves.
Lighter Note

Indianapolis, IN

#25 Oct 23, 2007
How do you put this on a resume?

"... trapped animals are usually kept alive to collect their urine."
Patriot

Louisville, KY

#26 Oct 23, 2007
DRB wrote:
Ban the trade. Most of these trappers and those they sell the coyotes too are bald face lying if they say they treat the animals humanely.
Trap and dispose of the animal if it is indeed a problem, but do so immediately and pain free.
How humane is it for a coyote to kill other animals?

How “pain-free” is it when a coyote snatches a small child, then eats it?
Onlooker

AOL

#27 Oct 23, 2007
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
How humane is it for a coyote to kill other animals?
How “pain-free” is it when a coyote snatches a small child, then eats it?
It isn't "humane," connoting human, in any sense of the word. It's nature, where predators of all kinds eat other animals. That's why God makes rabbits and mice and lets them breed so copiously.

And no small children, or large ones either, have been eaten by yotes, although there is a report that an infant left outside by an inattentive mother was being eyed by a passing coyote. A small child might very well be taken by a coyote if the kid is left alone long enough and the animal is hungry enough. Heck, a newborn could be carried off by a Great Horned Owl-- the top of the food chain for raptors, who will take a skunk or cat on occasion-- so I guess the message is "don't leave your kids unattended."
Bill500

United States

#28 Oct 23, 2007
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
How humane is it for a coyote to kill other animals?
How “pain-free” is it when a coyote snatches a small child, then eats it?
Coyotes, 99 percent of the time, live on rodents and other small animals that multiply...well, like rabbits. The other 1 percent of the time, they rely on stupid people to leave children and pets unattended. That's just Darwinism, survival of the smartest.
As for the subject at hand, no one should be allowed, by law, to trap animals for profit and for this type of use.
outside the box

Deputy, IN

#29 Oct 23, 2007
I understand that this is an internet forum, but good God almighty! Reading all the "enlightenment" on these message boards sure makes you understand why we are governed as we are..."We deserve what we get!"

Since: Oct 07

Indianapolis

#32 Oct 23, 2007
I would count our blessings that we live in a representative democracy/republic and not a TRUE direct democracy. Can you imagine if some of these folks could actually propose laws and vote on those laws themselves?
outside the box wrote:
I understand that this is an internet forum, but good God almighty! Reading all the "enlightenment" on these message boards sure makes you understand why we are governed as we are..."We deserve what we get!"
Coyotes Kill livestock

Indianapolis, IN

#33 Oct 23, 2007
The IndyStar is making a grave error sending out their opinion on this....

2 years from now there will be headlines that state..."Coyotes are everywhere, did we make a mistake?"

Take the $ away from coyote trapping and your setting yourself up for a reality check!

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