"The Navy" The worst thing you can do to yourself

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“Shore duty...gotta love it!”

Since: May 07

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#1037
Oct 30, 2007
 
Well said, and resoundingly true.

“Shore duty...gotta love it!”

Since: May 07

Newark, NJ

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#1038
Oct 30, 2007
 
Mikey, have the classifier at RTC Great Lakes reconsider your assignment. You should be eligible for more than yeoman.
Diablo

Baltimore, MD

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#1039
Oct 30, 2007
 
Mikey- A yeoman is basically a secretary. The colorblind thing will disqualify you from a lot of rates, but no way in hell should it drop you just to yeoman. From my experience, a lot of the behavioral problems I got from my guys was due to the fact they were too smart for their jobs. Most personnel departments are run like the DMV. It is not very fulfilling work and intellectually, it will grind you. Your signing up for a job for the next four years at least, don't just settle for something they are telling you to sign. Also, just because they say your colorblind, that isn't the end of it. You could get a waiver. I don't know how you should go about starting it but look into it. I got into the navy with spina bifida. I got turned down by the army and airforce, and had to go to two different navy recruiters until I found one willing to take the time to work with me. Three of my vertebra are fused with rods and I got a metal hip. I had all this done well before the military(lord knows if navy medical did it, I'd be dead), but I got in with a shit ton of waivers. Sounds to me like they don't want to do the paperwork and are hoping you just settle on a much lesser rate. For anyone getting in interested in getting in, don't try to cover shit up, like medical history, because it will come back and bite you in the ass no matter what your recruiter says. Good luck Mikey
Mikey

Jonesboro, GA

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#1040
Oct 30, 2007
 
Okay I was wrong on the score it 63 on the asvab. And is there any specific reasons to why a corpsman is a better job then yeoman? I heard yeoman get bankers hours from like 8 to 4.
mike lowry

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#1041
Oct 30, 2007
 
this stuff sucks!!!!
Diablo

Baltimore, MD

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#1042
Nov 1, 2007
 
Mikey- No one really gets banking hours in the navy, at least not at their first command. Yes, the Personnel office runs hours similar to the hours you mention, and believe me...they are a hell of a lot better than the hours RX Dept worked, you'll still participate in drills like GQ, have to clean/field day, and attend training in your off time. You want banker hours, be a banker. But if you don't like being a banker, no matter how little you work, you'll still hate your job. Furthermore, you realize there isn't a lot to do on a boat, right? My last month in, I got my TLD pulled, standard procedure for nukes getting out, and wasn't allowed down in the plant anymore. Jesus, I was climbing up the walls. You'll get sick of just playing cards and watching crappy movies over and over again. I hated my job, but at least it sucked 15 or so hours out of the day. Plus when you get out, what will your marketable skills be for being a yeoman? Your a secretary and chances are a business will rather hirer a temp then pay you for your experience. Keep in mind, these are just my opinions. I suggest you try and contact a ship's website and email the personnel department and try to get the lowdown on the rate. Do a couple of different ships so you can see how they differ. Don't just come just here for your info. Good luck dude.
ETsizzle

San Diego, CA

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#1043
Nov 3, 2007
 
Mikey- Yeoman(YN) have working hours (set hours of operation like a business, open-close), other rates that fall into this category are PS,SK,SH,HM. On the other hand you have your technical ratings which might have working hours as well as watches (manned spaces), but the big difference is that in the technical ratings the importance of equipment is significantly more so than paperwork, therefore a technician can be woken up in the middle of the night and be forced to work on a equipment until it is fixed. I've personally experienced 16-24 hour days due to the importance of equipment. The jobs that fall into the technical rates are ET,FC,STG,CT,IC,GM,AT,AM,GSE. You should also look into the advancement quotas (% of advancement) for the jobs you are interested in. Your paycheck is directly proportionate to your rank; therefore if you are in a job that has great advancement % then you potentially will receive more money. It all boils down to whether you would rather have a less difficult (slacker) job and possibly hating it or a more difficult (technical) job and possibly hating it
ITTSBBMEJR

Japan

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#1044
Nov 5, 2007
 
Hey Guys I'm A Brand New Sailor Who Joined The Navy In Oct of 06 And Started My Career 6 Months Later In March of 07 When I Left For Boot Camp...Anyways I've Only Been In For Seven Months And Some Change Once Through Boot Camp I Already Started Realizing This Was Something I Didn't Want To Do And I Deff Didn't Want To Be Stuck On A Ship So When I Graduated SK A School In June I Asked To Be Assigned To The Seabees In Gulfport Ms And Luckily Got The Last Billet They Had Since Than I've Been Trying To Look At Everything New I've Experienced In A Positive Way And Tried TO Keep My Head Up But I'm To THe Point Where I Hate My Life And I Wanna Turn My Two Weeks Notice In And Go Home Back TO MY Normal Life Which Now As Much Has Changed Back There Wouldn't Be So Normal To Me Anymore I've Talked To THe Chaps For Our Command And Tried To Talk About With Other People In My Command But It Isn't Helping At All And I Don't Know IF I Can Make It Three And A Half More Years I Was Just Wondering If Yal Have ANy Advice That Might Get Me Through IT
Wolf

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#1045
Nov 6, 2007
 
ITTSBBMEJR wrote:
Hey Guys I'm A Brand New Sailor Who Joined The Navy In Oct of 06 And Started My Career 6 Months Later In March of 07 When I Left For Boot Camp...Anyways I've Only Been In For Seven Months And Some Change Once Through Boot Camp I Already Started Realizing This Was Something I Didn't Want To Do And I Deff Didn't Want To Be Stuck On A Ship So When I Graduated SK A School In June I Asked To Be Assigned To The Seabees In Gulfport Ms And Luckily Got The Last Billet They Had Since Than I've Been Trying To Look At Everything New I've Experienced In A Positive Way And Tried TO Keep My Head Up But I'm To THe Point Where I Hate My Life And I Wanna Turn My Two Weeks Notice In And Go Home Back TO MY Normal Life Which Now As Much Has Changed Back There Wouldn't Be So Normal To Me Anymore I've Talked To THe Chaps For Our Command And Tried To Talk About With Other People In My Command But It Isn't Helping At All And I Don't Know IF I Can Make It Three And A Half More Years I Was Just Wondering If Yal Have ANy Advice That Might Get Me Through IT
I was a seabee while I was in was SW3. I think you have the best shake in the Navy with the bees. Its a great group of people. I would talk to your command and see what they can do. Seabees take care of there people so I think you have a better shot at a group of seabees then you would have in the fleet.

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Just Another Fish

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Nov 8, 2007
 

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For all the Navy haters out there...please get out you make everyone else around you feel as bad as you do!!! There is nothing worse then hearing someone bitch and moan all the time. Say u are a drug addicted, a homo, get a DUI, get fat!! whatever
u need to do JUST GET OUT!!! I am tierd of all of you. By the way can you say..WOULD U LIKE FRIES WITH THAT!!! LOL you are all stupid!!!
Wow You Must Be One Of Those Guys That Like To Make Other Peoples Lifes Stressed Out. Only In The Navy Can Your "Chief's" And Upper Chain Of Command Give You Health Problems From Just Being Bad Leaders. You Are Forced To Stay And Complete Your Contract Less Deal With The Result Of Getting Kicked Out. So Screaming Get Out, Is Not Going To Help. You Must Be A Real Leader, Saying Homo And Get Fat And Other Things Like That. Why Dont You Go Re-Enlist.
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Nov 9, 2007
 

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I am in the navy and i used to like it because of all the promises i was listening to. I really believe it is different every where and who you work for and where your stationed can change your perspective on a navy career. Now youd think because im stationed in key west it would be nice but no i get no ojt im not allowed to get a job or even take classes even though im shit hot so fuck this I have a son to raise who lives in a rough environment with his mother its time i get out and do what the navy said they were gonna do but never followed through and excellerate my life with education and not with a damn mop and bucket so for all you pampered busted kneed sailors who love your job keep it up and realize not all commands are good and not everyone has time to just sit around and wait for promises to be fullfilled. I highly respect those who do there jobs but there are to many lazy ass good for nothing e 4 and above who sit on there ass. You say you earned that right get a fuckin clue i hope you someday get the righteous shaft that is coming your way when you treat your seaman and airman like dirt cause in the real world it dosnt matter how many tests you took or how much you dirty your knees to look good you still have to work in a blue collar world. And for those who treat their people good keep it up cause working for people who suck is a career killer.
Once an E-1

Redmond, WA

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#1048
Nov 9, 2007
 
Joining the service can be a great thing. If you are a white male it is the only form of affirmative action available to you when you get out. And it is the most potent affirmative action, veterans always get job preference.
However, if you have problems with military life, like I did with the Navy it can backfire. Although I have a college degree, since I was discharged early in Boot Camp, I can never work for the Federal Government. Meanwhile, immigrants from Africa and Asia, who never had the slightest notion, nor their children, of volunteering for US Military Service, are aggressively recruited for high paying civilian Federal jobs.
So think twice about fighting for America.
Diablo

Baltimore, MD

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#1049
Nov 10, 2007
 
Once an E-1, what the hell did you do that got you an OTH or worse in boot camp if you don't mind me asking? Even with an OTH, most companies and even parts of the government, especially local and state governments, don't even bother with the costs of background checks. I can't think of a reason that someone would get screwed over that bad with so little time in. It doesn't make sense.
Once an E-1

Redmond, WA

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#1050
Nov 10, 2007
 
Actually I got an HD, but no one seems to think I deserved it.
sponge bob square pants

Pawleys Island, SC

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#1051
Nov 11, 2007
 
Navy hatter

The navy rocks and u stink
Once an E-1

Redmond, WA

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#1052
Nov 11, 2007
 
I wanted to like it.
Once an E-1

Redmond, WA

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#1053
Nov 11, 2007
 
One thing though if I could would be to abolish the Seals, or at least disassociate them from the Navy. Their function has nothing to do with the Navy, their purpose has nothing to do with the Navy, yet they strut around as if they own the Navy. The time that I was in Boot Camp, I was made to attend a lecture from a Seal, and he said that everyone present, execept me, could make it as a Seal. But how many actually did? Why did he single me out? I said something to him, and I still remember that day at the beginning of my downfall.

So if the Navy rocks, and I stink, then the Seals stink like Seals.
Wolf

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#1054
Nov 12, 2007
 
Once an E-1 wrote:
One thing though if I could would be to abolish the Seals, or at least disassociate them from the Navy. Their function has nothing to do with the Navy, their purpose has nothing to do with the Navy, yet they strut around as if they own the Navy. The time that I was in Boot Camp, I was made to attend a lecture from a Seal, and he said that everyone present, execept me, could make it as a Seal. But how many actually did? Why did he single me out? I said something to him, and I still remember that day at the beginning of my downfall.
So if the Navy rocks, and I stink, then the Seals stink like Seals.
WOW...So you take one negative comment at you at a BUDS meeting and you judge the whole Seals group off that. First off grow some balls. The Navy and military goes off of negative re-enforcement. That seal was directing it to you, so maybe he could motivate you to push back and get into a program that could change your life not too hold you back. You took his words and made them change your life like everyone is after to get you. My friend life isnt easy dont keep your emotions on your sleaves.

Seal teams are very important to the Navy and has everything to do with the mission of the Navy on intel and other issues. I was a seabee. I never was on a ship in the Navy. Does that not make seabees important ? Without Seabees you wouldnt have ports to dock too or airports or camps.

-Wolf
Once an E-1

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#1055
Nov 12, 2007
 
I think you are right and my comments were basically stupid ones although I don't think I could have ever been a Seal. But this is what I get for not thinking when posting on the internet. I shouldn't have posted at all. I might also try to stay away from this website since I usually find it depressing.
Dragon

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#1056
Nov 13, 2007
 
Wolf wrote:
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WOW...So you take one negative comment at you at a BUDS meeting and you judge the whole Seals group off that. First off grow some balls. The Navy and military goes off of negative re-enforcement. That seal was directing it to you, so maybe he could motivate you to push back and get into a program that could change your life not too hold you back. You took his words and made them change your life like everyone is after to get you. My friend life isnt easy dont keep your emotions on your sleaves.
Seal teams are very important to the Navy and has everything to do with the mission of the Navy on intel and other issues. I was a seabee. I never was on a ship in the Navy. Does that not make seabees important ? Without Seabees you wouldnt have ports to dock too or airports or camps.
-Wolf
Well At least you said the truth. The Navy does feed off negative re-enforcement. Also yes one should not be so sensitive. Then again nothing is not more cowardly than to pick on someone who has no way of defending themselves. Again we are all supposed to be on the some side yet in the military we treat each other like the enemy. No wonder they have a 90% turn over rate. The way the military is run it is very anti American. Very imperalistic and just down right oppressive.

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