Scott' Law (move over law) in Illinoi...

Scott' Law (move over law) in Illinois -- excessive, abusive, entrapment

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Bob

Washington, DC

#1 Dec 1, 2008
I got nailed by Scott's law yesterday in Illinois on I-64 near Mt Vernon. The trooper car was stopped, well off on the side of the road, with lights flashing, no other cars around or any people around -- it did not look like an emergency situation. I normally slow down and move to an alternate lane if the situation looks hazardous but this one did not. I just thought this was some sort of friendly warning to keep to the speed limit, which I did. Also, I try to minimize lane changing for safety reasons.

I have never heard of this law and I am from Maryland where we do NOT have this law. No excuse, I know, but it still seems terribly unfair to expect outsiders to be familiar with this new law.

Illinois also seems to use this law abusively and actually sets traps to catch unaware motorists like me. This trooper was clearly not doing anything emergency related. He was just sitting there will lights on for no reason except as an entrapment setup.

The penalties can also be outrageous. Mandatory requirement of a court appearance is unfair especially for out-of-towners like me. Also the fines are excessive --$150 to well over $300. Also your license can be revoked and it can affect your insurance rates. It is will really unbelievable how overzealous the IL police and courts are pushing this.

I agree in principle with the spirit of the law but the level and style of enforcement in Illinois is abusive, unfair and wrong. Anyway I have this ticket and a court date in January. Any suggestions on what should I do?
JO JO

Frankfort, IL

#2 Dec 1, 2008
Ahhhh....So you too have fallen victim to the corrupt great state of IL. I was unable to move to the other lane because of trucks, but still got a ticket. these are modern day speed traps to generate money for a broke / corrupt state.
Bob

Washington, DC

#3 Dec 1, 2008
JO JO wrote:
Ahhhh....So you too have fallen victim to the corrupt great state of IL. I was unable to move to the other lane because of trucks, but still got a ticket. these are modern day speed traps to generate money for a broke / corrupt state.
Hi JoJo, I have some questions:

Did you appear in court?
Plead guilty?
Hire a lawyer?
What was the fine?
Did you lose you license?
Did it affect your insurance?

Thanks!

Bob
JO JO

Frankfort, IL

#4 Dec 1, 2008
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi JoJo, I have some questions:
Did you appear in court?
Plead guilty?
Hire a lawyer?
What was the fine?
Did you lose you license?
Did it affect your insurance?
Thanks!
Bob
Appeared in court... found guilty
had a lawyer charged $700.00
fine was 300 plus court cost 250
lic is ok
insurance will go up my agent said....
rip-off.....state trooper lied and said there was no trucks, asked that his video camera be used to help me they said ...NO
Bob

Washington, DC

#5 Dec 1, 2008
JO JO wrote:
<quoted text>
Appeared in court... found guilty
had a lawyer charged $700.00
fine was 300 plus court cost 250
lic is ok
insurance will go up my agent said....
rip-off.....state trooper lied and said there was no trucks, asked that his video camera be used to help me they said ...NO
Wow. That sux big time. Sorry to hear all that. What is wrong with these people?
Bob

Washington, DC

#6 Dec 2, 2008
I am thinking of sending my story to the editors of all the major newspapers in the country as well as other media. They may find it an interesting story to print considering the terrible irony of it -- extorting money from innocent law-abiding citizens in memory of Scott's death.
Bob

Washington, DC

#7 Dec 3, 2008
I talked with someone from the DA's office and they offered $200 fine with 3 months court supervision, no court appearance. If no other tickets in that time then it's not reported.

I am still debating what to do. I talked with a lawyer and he thought he could get it amended to a lesser violation like speeding since my record was clean, being from a state that does not have the law and that the trooper was sitting alone on the side of the road not obviously in an emergency situation.

What a pain.
audrey

Redmond, WA

#8 Dec 3, 2008
same thing happened to my husband yesterday.He couldn't get over and I think the driver in the car beside us was a set up because when my husband slowed down to swing behind him the car also slowed down which prevented us from getting behind him.In other words he stayed right beside us.The minute we saw the cop car he started slowing down and trying to get over.I think that area is a speed trap because we drive thru there often and we always see people pulled over on the road and have heard others say they couldn't get over either.Could have been a set up because the two cars setting beisde the road didn't appear to have anything wrong with them and the wrecker was just setting there with a man standing by it.I've seen a scene something like it before.So if you are driving thru St.Louis into Illinois be really carefull on the I-64 in Illinois between St.Louis Mo and Belleville Illinois because Big Bad John is waiting.
Amanda

Champaign, IL

#10 Apr 12, 2012
JO JO wrote:
Ahhhh....So you too have fallen victim to the corrupt great state of IL. I was unable to move to the other lane because of trucks, but still got a ticket. these are modern day speed traps to generate money for a broke / corrupt state.
No these are laws that are put into place to protect the people that are trying to keep this state safe. P.S. stopping or slowing down until able to get into the other lane are a good alternative.
TOW MAN

Carmi, IL

#11 Dec 13, 2012
Did some checking MD has a law like illinois it also just good practice for any vehicle on the sholder cuz my little boy likes it when is daddy comes home every night
Roy

Morton Grove, IL

#12 Mar 16, 2013
audrey wrote:
same thing happened to my husband yesterday.He couldn't get over and I think the driver in the car beside us was a set up because when my husband slowed down to swing behind him the car also slowed down which prevented us from getting behind him.In other words he stayed right beside us.The minute we saw the cop car he started slowing down and trying to get over.I think that area is a speed trap because we drive thru there often and we always see people pulled over on the road and have heard others say they couldn't get over either.Could have been a set up because the two cars setting beisde the road didn't appear to have anything wrong with them and the wrecker was just setting there with a man standing by it.I've seen a scene something like it before.So if you are driving thru St.Louis into Illinois be really carefull on the I-64 in Illinois between St.Louis Mo and Belleville Illinois because Big Bad John is waiting.
Same thing happened to me, a car would not let me pass by in IL.

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