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Ill. companies sign letter advocating gay marriage

There are 29 comments on the KFVS12 story from Jan 13, 2013, titled Ill. companies sign letter advocating gay marriage. In it, KFVS12 reports that:

A group of high-profile business leaders say legalizing gay marriage in Illinois will help create a more competitive and thriving business climate.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1 Jan 13, 2013
Ah, the same recipe we used for victory in Washington.

Since: Mar 09

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#3 Jan 13, 2013
"Dangerous to religious freedom" seems to be the new meme the opposition is pushing.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#5 Jan 13, 2013
snyper wrote:
"Dangerous to religious freedom" seems to be the new meme the opposition is pushing.
Yeah, and that'll be about as successful as it was in Washington, Maine, Maryland, & Minnesota.

The marriage equality hearing in the Rhode Island House on Tues should be fun to listen to.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#6 Jan 13, 2013
How is that new?

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

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#7 Jan 13, 2013
snyper wrote:
"Dangerous to religious freedom" seems to be the new meme the opposition is pushing.
....which is synonymous with the freedom to hate openly without consequences.
Jane Dodo

West New York, NJ

#12 Jan 13, 2013
"Several religious groups oppose allowing same-sex marriage in Illinois calling it "dangerous" to religious freedom."

Why is it that the fundies never remember that they have first amendment rights? Because all they can think about is that gun in their pocket.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#14 Jan 13, 2013
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
I wonder why gays don't like to talk about Greg Quinlan, leader of the ex-gay group PFOX (Parents and friends of ex-gays and gays) Mr Quinlan warns us of homofascism in America.
Now why on earth would a gay do something like that?
In Mr Quinlan's own words on towelroad.com
The culture war is not slowing down; it’s just beginning to gain steam as gay organizations turn to anti-heterosexual legislation, mandatory public approval of sodomy, federal funding of gay youth activist organizations and homosexual initiatives, required government training against “homophobia,”“heterosexism,” and “transphobia,” etc., etc. This is more than a culture war; it is a war for our very own freedoms—a war for the character and future of our nation.
Homofascism will soon be, if it is not already, the greatest threat to our individual liberties in this country. So-called equality marriage is just the beginning.
Read more: http://www.towleroad.com/2012/11/ex-gay-leade...
Because anyone who hates themselves as much as he obviously does isn't worth listening to. Just like you.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#15 Jan 13, 2013
Maybe because it was a right wing OPINION Ed piece in the very right wing Life Site News. Some of the folks over there use to work for Hitler I think and folks like Quinlin can't get space on any legit real world news sites. For good reason obviously, Quinlins' BS comes right out of the NOM playbook, no surprise there.

And Mr. Quinlan is supposedly an ex-gay. Looking at his photo that's probably a good thing for Gay men everywhere. The only thing is, however, if you really look at his picture it appears he's looking for something to fill that pie hole of his. And it probably ain't pie. He probably uses that pic as a lure on Adam4Adam under the screen name "I swallow".
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
I wonder why gays don't like to talk about Greg Quinlan, leader of the ex-gay group PFOX (Parents and friends of ex-gays and gays) Mr Quinlan warns us of homofascism in America.
Now why on earth would a gay do something like that?
In Mr Quinlan's own words on towelroad.com
The culture war is not slowing down; it’s just beginning to gain steam as gay organizations turn to anti-heterosexual legislation, mandatory public approval of sodomy, federal funding of gay youth activist organizations and homosexual initiatives, required government training against “homophobia,”“heterosexism,” and “transphobia,” etc., etc. This is more than a culture war; it is a war for our very own freedoms—a war for the character and future of our nation.
Homofascism will soon be, if it is not already, the greatest threat to our individual liberties in this country. So-called equality marriage is just the beginning.
Read more: http://www.towleroad.com/2012/11/ex-gay-leade...

Religionthebigli e

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

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#18 Jan 13, 2013
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
I wonder why gays don't like to talk about Greg Quinlan, leader of the ex-gay group PFOX (Parents and friends of ex-gays and gays) Mr Quinlan warns us of homofascism in America.
Now why on earth would a gay do something like that?
In Mr Quinlan's own words on towelroad.com
The culture war is not slowing down; it’s just beginning to gain steam as gay organizations turn to anti-heterosexual legislation, mandatory public approval of sodomy, federal funding of gay youth activist organizations and homosexual initiatives, required government training against “homophobia,”“heterosexism,” and “transphobia,” etc., etc. This is more than a culture war; it is a war for our very own freedoms—a war for the character and future of our nation.
Homofascism will soon be, if it is not already, the greatest threat to our individual liberties in this country. So-called equality marriage is just the beginning.
Read more: http://www.towleroad.com/2012/11/ex-gay-leade...
Actually, irrational fear and division are far more dangerous to society.

What liberty will you give up when gay marriage becomes legal? Name one.

Since: Apr 09

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#21 Jan 13, 2013
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
Poor sheep, what a sad and pathetic excuse of a human being you really are. One of the biggest liars on topix for sure.
Awwww...rough night, kitten?

You've been getting your ass kicked on every gay discussion you're participating in tonight (and man, for a straight person, you sure are obsessed with the gays...).

So sad for you...

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#26 Jan 13, 2013
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
I wonder why gays don't like to talk about Greg Quinlan, leader of the ex-gay group PFOX (Parents and friends of ex-gays and gays) Mr Quinlan warns us of homofascism in America.
Now why on earth would a gay do something like that?
In Mr Quinlan's own words on towelroad.com
The culture war is not slowing down; it’s just beginning to gain steam as gay organizations turn to anti-heterosexual legislation, mandatory public approval of sodomy, federal funding of gay youth activist organizations and homosexual initiatives, required government training against “homophobia,”“heterosexism,” and “transphobia,” etc., etc. This is more than a culture war; it is a war for our very own freedoms—a war for the character and future of our nation.
Homofascism will soon be, if it is not already, the greatest threat to our individual liberties in this country. So-called equality marriage is just the beginning.
Read more: http://www.towleroad.com/2012/11/ex-gay-leade...
You do realize, of course, that the only ex-gays are professionals. They make their living either doing road shows for their backers like AFA and FRC, or they prey on young gays desperate to "be normal."

If there were so many ex-gays, why don't we ever see any? And why do so many of the professional ex-gays finally come back out and apologize for all the harm they did with the ex-gay movement?

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#27 Jan 13, 2013
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
I wonder why gays don't like to talk about Greg Quinlan, leader of the ex-gay group PFOX (Parents and friends of ex-gays and gays) Mr Quinlan warns us of homofascism in America.
Now why on earth would a gay do something like that?
In Mr Quinlan's own words on towelroad.com
The culture war is not slowing down; it’s just beginning to gain steam as gay organizations turn to anti-heterosexual legislation, mandatory public approval of sodomy, federal funding of gay youth activist organizations and homosexual initiatives, required government training against “homophobia,”“heterosexism,” and “transphobia,” etc., etc. This is more than a culture war; it is a war for our very own freedoms—a war for the character and future of our nation.
Homofascism will soon be, if it is not already, the greatest threat to our individual liberties in this country. So-called equality marriage is just the beginning.
Read more: http://www.towleroad.com/2012/11/ex-gay-leade...
No one likes to talk about that kind of thing here, because we all prefer to talk about logical, mature and intelligent subjects. This is some selfish, cruel and boneheaded nonsense.

What "freedoms" are you and Mr. Quinlan afraid of losing, specifically? You are currently expressing your feelings freely right here. When is that scheduled to end?.

What "anti-heterosexual legislation" has been introduced? Can you list any? Even one? He doesn't. It's not "anti-heterosexual" to say that kids can't be dragged into church basements for "therapy".

How do you "mandate" public acceptance of ANYTHING? Of course, you cannot. People will accept or reject whatever they want, they can never be "mandated" to accept a thing. Some people still don't accept interracial marriage, and they're still free to feel that way.

Ask Mr. Quinlan for an example of the government funding of gay youth activist organizations or homosexual initiatives, because he doesn't provide any in his original article on LifeSiteNews (comments closed, of course). He provides a link when he mentions this, but the link says NOTHING about this. It actually supports his NEXT "accusation", required government diversity training programs (Quinlan specifically links to a USDA diversity program). I don't know if this is a simple technical oversight, or deliberate misdirection. I looked for some examples myself, and could only confirm private funding.

I'll complain together WITH you about mandatory government diversity training, once I finish with this mandatory diversity training program at my private sector job.

Seriously, they wouldn't make us TAKE these training programs if some people would just learn how to TREAT OTHERS. Is it really so hard to include gay people on the LONG LIST of people we're ALREADY expected to treat as human beings? But, I guess so. They wouldn't even need to HAVE a list, if there weren't ALREADY plenty of people who thought they had OTHER reasons for hating OTHER groups.

It's hilarious that Quinlan calls his group "Parents and friends of ex-gays AND GAYS", because he sure doesn't act like it. Do you or Mr. Quinlan have anything ELSE besides these baseless claims that collapse at the first investigation?

Could you people please GROW UP, and quit causing so much trouble for everyone else in the world? SOME PEOPLE ARE GAY. Don't like it? Tough, because there isn't really anything you can do about it. If you don't LIKE the idea of sex between people of the same gender, then HAVE SEX WITH THE OPPOSITE SEX. No one is trying to MAKE you gay. If you have some freedoms that you want to enjoy, then GO ENJOY THEM. The rest of us have similar plans, STAY OUT OF THEM. Don't complain that we're "fascists" just because we won't politely abstain from all human contact, waive all our rights, and hide ourselves whenever you're using the world.

Since: Mar 09

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#28 Jan 13, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
How is that new?
It's just beginning to be pushed with some energy.

Since: Mar 09

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#29 Jan 13, 2013
EdmondWA wrote:
<quoted text> ... Ask Mr. Quinlan for an example of the government funding of gay youth activist organizations or homosexual initiatives, because he doesn't provide any in his original article on LifeSiteNews (comments closed, of course). He provides a link when he mentions this, but the link says NOTHING about this. It actually supports his NEXT "accusation", required government diversity training programs (Quinlan specifically links to a USDA diversity program). I don't know if this is a simple technical oversight, or deliberate misdirection. I looked for some examples myself, and could only confirm private funding.
I'll complain together WITH you about mandatory government diversity training, once I finish with this mandatory diversity training program at my private sector job.
Seriously, they wouldn't make us TAKE these training programs if some people would just learn how to TREAT OTHERS. Is it really so hard to include gay people on the LONG LIST of people we're ALREADY expected to treat as human beings? But, I guess so. They wouldn't even need to HAVE a list, if there weren't ALREADY plenty of people who thought they had OTHER reasons for hating OTHER groups.... Do you or Mr. Quinlan have anything ELSE besides these baseless claims that collapse at the first investigation?
Could you people please GROW UP, and quit causing so much trouble for everyone else in the world? SOME PEOPLE ARE GAY. Don't like it? Tough, because there isn't really anything you can do about it. If you don't LIKE the idea of sex between people of the same gender, then HAVE SEX WITH THE OPPOSITE SEX. No one is trying to MAKE you gay. If you have some freedoms that you want to enjoy, then GO ENJOY THEM. The rest of us have similar plans, STAY OUT OF THEM. Don't complain that we're "fascists" just because we won't politely abstain from all human contact, waive all our rights, and hide ourselves whenever you're using the world.
Absolutely PERFECT!

You can really think and write !!!!!

“"Whats The Big Deal"”

Since: Jan 13

Minneapolis Minnesota

#30 Jan 14, 2013
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
Poor sheep, what a sad and pathetic excuse of a human being you really are. One of the biggest liars on topix for sure.
Please stop talking about yourself yet again! It's very unbecoming to a Homo-erotic fascist like yourself! You are the worlds biggest lie teller!

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#31 Jan 14, 2013
That's the ticket, attack the poster and ignore the facts of the post. Anyone wonder why you've lost this cultural war. Thinkers like yourself fall into the ignorant rant trap every time.
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
Wow! I even got tommy two tone to rationalize this one. Another pathetic excuse for a human being and this will all come to a head soon and when common sense finally sets in I look forward to all the rioting by the left leaning moral web destroyers.
Chugga chugga chugga chugga, CHOO-CHOO!
ROTFLMAO!

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#32 Jan 14, 2013
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
Poor sheep, what a sad and pathetic excuse of a human being you really are. One of the biggest liars on topix for sure.
And yet you're unable to point out a single untrue statement I've ever made.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#33 Jan 14, 2013
Goosebumps wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever, none of you freaks can come up with a well thought out reply to most of my assertions. The only obsession going on here is my concerns for the principles of morality of this once great nation. You're a bunch of sexual pigs that need help and guidance out of your dark decadent and dangerous behaviors.
Even Greg Quinlan says so. Poor baby?????
That's because 99.9% of your assertions are nonsense, including any credibility you give to Miss Quinlan.

Since: Mar 09

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#35 Jan 14, 2013
Natural Law wrote:
<quoted text>
You do realize, of course, that you sound like an addict making fun of a reformed addict?
he sounds like someone who know his subject.

Since: Mar 09

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#37 Jan 14, 2013
Natural Law wrote:
<quoted text>
You sound like a crack addict denouncing one that is reformed. Get it? Crack addict? Yah! Oompa Loompa. LOL
Not a good parallel.

Not good science.

Deceptive PR.

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