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Obama about-face: tap nation's oil reserve

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Aug 8, 2008
 
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McCain the traitor.
Good God.
What an idiot you are. McCain served this country in the military for decades. Obama has served himself. No one in their right mind would ever call McCain a traitor.
Which explains you.
We have Americans...and we have Democrats.
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Aug 8, 2008
 
This is not about left wing propaganda or right wing propaganda at it's best------No stiff vote----but an American voter want to know!---IS JOHN MCCAIN FIT TO SERVE?---CAN AMERICA TRUST JOHN MCCAIN?------ CAN JOHN MCCAIN FUNCTION?---

DISHONEST OR PTSD? NOW MCCAIN WANT TO BE VOTED FOR PRESIDENT! IS McCAIN ON 100% MILITARY DISABILITY?

McCain’s disability pension may renew questions about his fitness---
Certain types of military and veterans pensions are either partially or completely tax-exempt, depending on the seriousness of the disability. In McCain’s case, the exemption is 100%.
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McCain’s disability pension may renew questions about his fitness
The disclosure of the Navy benefit for injuries incurred as a Vietnam POW may raise fitness questions.
By Ralph V.
April 22, 2008 in print edition A-12
If John McCain is fit why is he collecting 100% disability money??????(his wife is rich?)
THIS IS INSANE!
CAN AMERICA TRUST JOHN MCCAIN?
Where will John McCain be in 20 years?
Where will the american economy be in 20 years?
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The McCain Myth of Experience
By MiddleChild - June 14, 2008, 6:06PM
John McCain is running for President on his one great asset, his experience and strength in military and foreign affairs. My question is, what experience, what strength? This is a man who graduated third from the bottom of his class of almost 900 students, crashed 5 planes, flew only 21 hours before he was captured and that is it. He has no military command experience, never lead any troops, and cannot even get the factions in Iraq straight when he has been corrected over and over. The only experience this man has is D.C., and that is exactly what we do not want. I want intelligence, fresh ideas, and promises kept. Senator McCain cannot even operate a computer by his own admission, but we are to trust him running our country in a global economy? The McCain who ran in 2000 is not the McCain running now. He has lost his edge, he seems at times to run off the track and he certainly is not grasping basic facts about the war. He is NOT experienced, he is just another rerun. I want a new show.
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Aug 8, 2008
 
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I beleive that because Obama is who he is, someone the complete opposite of what American's are use to, it has caused American's to go into some kind of culture shock. Having panic attacks........In all my years of following Presidential Campaigns, I have never experienced this amount of controversy. The media has managed to feed us all a bunch of twisted garbage that has us spinning.
Obama is no more or no less than any other candidate in years before. None of them went into office with any Presidential accomplishments, they werent President yet. None of them went into office with any Presidentail experience, they were never President, so it would be physically impossible for Obama or Mccain or any other candidate running for President to have any experience being the President or to have any accomplishments or things they have done as President.
All of the reasons that people are giving for not liking him or voting for him are there own personal opinions. Just as people who don't like McCain have there own personal opinions about him. I personally feel that yesterday when he suggested his wife parade herself around in front of 50,000 bikers in a topless, bikini was the straw that broke the camels back. There are several other reasons why I don't like him for President, but the latest fiasco iced the cake for me as I'm sure it has the same effect of millions of other women. He totally disrespected his own wife and daughter in front of 50,000 bikers and millions of Americans watching it on TV. If he cares so little about his own family, how much do you think he cares about the rest of the country.
Besides his big oil buddies of course........
WTF are you talking about?

Big oil buddies?

Obama has taken more money from Exxon than has McCain.
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Aug 8, 2008
 
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Bail him out of what?
Did he create the oil crisis?
If you don't want to inflate your tires, don't, who gives a flyin ____?
No matter who wins the election, there is not going to be any "immediate" solution to the high price of gas except for "simple things" we as citizens can do to help ourselves so we can heat our homes this winter.
You all are acting like your expecting and looking for a miracle to this oil crisis.
Either you pay for the oil or you don't. Do you really think Obama or McCain has the "immediate answer? No they do not....
Drilling is going to take years, that's not going to bring any immediate releif, what do you do in the meantime, freeze to death, or do you do the "simple" things to help yourself, like "inflate your tires so you get better gas milage", turn your heat down to 65, put on heavier clothes in the winter, use wood burning stoves, walk when you don't absolutely have to drive, etc., etc., and etc......
What Obama is proposing makes more sense than "We have to drill and drill now".
You may not like it, and have your expectations set too high, but it is what it is.......
Obama is hoping for the evergy fairies to appear and more everything better.

Most of us with half a brain already have properly inflated tires. It's the rest of you who likely don't.

And you think that somehow, magically, we're going to have all sort of alternative energy sources to get us off foreign oil?

Wood burning? You want to deforest the country?

You can whine all you want, but the need for oil is going nowhere but up for the foreseeable future.

We need more supply- of our OWN oil. Only drilling will provide that. It can happen a lot sooner than Obama is lying about.

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Is this your "justification" and "minimization" of McCain offering to pimp out his wife to 50,000 bikers?
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What do you think of this? obama and The people that threw the Clintons under the bus and aloud obama to defame them as racist are scum. The clintons are heros to minorities one day and tossed aside as racist the next. How low can you obama backers get? Bill Clinton was lowered to telling the cameras yesterday "I AM NOT A RACIST" Sad....
obama tried that racist crap on Mccain and it backfired and showed us who the real racist is. Obama learned a lot from Rev. Wright and Farrakahn. I also know if 96% of whites vote for Mccain the racist word would be screamed from the roof tops, but its fine for "sisters and brothers" to do this.
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Aug 8, 2008
 
Jersey Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Not from ME it doesn't......
or any other Real American.
Because you don't have any money.......

What is Real American anyway?

So you mean all those rich white people giving Obama there money arent Real Americans, well I'll be damn.......
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Obama is hoping for the evergy fairies to appear and more everything better.
Most of us with half a brain already have properly inflated tires. It's the rest of you who likely don't.
And you think that somehow, magically, we're going to have all sort of alternative energy sources to get us off foreign oil?
Wood burning? You want to deforest the country?
You can whine all you want, but the need for oil is going nowhere but up for the foreseeable future.
We need more supply- of our OWN oil. Only drilling will provide that. It can happen a lot sooner than Obama is lying about.
If Obama is lying about it then the experts are lying about it too.

Everybody is lying except you.........

Your worried about the forest?

What do you think is going to happen to our oceans and environment "if" and "once" drilling starts? Why do you think they banned in from the first place?
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WTF are you talking about?
Big oil buddies?
Obama has taken more money from Exxon than has McCain.
Enron.....
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Aug 8, 2008
 
DEFINE TRUTH wrote:
This is not about left wing propaganda or right wing propaganda at it's best------No stiff vote----but an American voter want to know!---IS JOHN MCCAIN FIT TO SERVE?---CAN AMERICA TRUST JOHN MCCAIN?------ CAN JOHN MCCAIN FUNCTION?---
DISHONEST OR PTSD? NOW MCCAIN WANT TO BE VOTED FOR PRESIDENT! IS McCAIN ON 100% MILITARY DISABILITY?
McCain’s disability pension may renew questions about his fitness---
Certain types of military and veterans pensions are either partially or completely tax-exempt, depending on the seriousness of the disability. In McCain’s case, the exemption is 100%.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
McCain’s disability pension may renew questions about his fitness
The disclosure of the Navy benefit for injuries incurred as a Vietnam POW may raise fitness questions.
By Ralph V.
April 22, 2008 in print edition A-12
If John McCain is fit why is he collecting 100% disability money??????(his wife is rich?)
THIS IS INSANE!
CAN AMERICA TRUST JOHN MCCAIN?
Where will John McCain be in 20 years?
Where will the american economy be in 20 years?
From: Cafe, Election Central
The McCain Myth of Experience
By MiddleChild - June 14, 2008, 6:06PM
John McCain is running for President on his one great asset, his experience and strength in military and foreign affairs. My question is, what experience, what strength? This is a man who graduated third from the bottom of his class of almost 900 students, crashed 5 planes, flew only 21 hours before he was captured and that is it. He has no military command experience, never lead any troops, and cannot even get the factions in Iraq straight when he has been corrected over and over. The only experience this man has is D.C., and that is exactly what we do not want. I want intelligence, fresh ideas, and promises kept. Senator McCain cannot even operate a computer by his own admission, but we are to trust him running our country in a global economy? The McCain who ran in 2000 is not the McCain running now. He has lost his edge, he seems at times to run off the track and he certainly is not grasping basic facts about the war. He is NOT experienced, he is just another rerun. I want a new show.
I read this, but they wont. They want to be and stay ignorant....

They might as well join the guy who cops arrested yesterday for threatening to assinate Obama he if got elected.

They truly believe that McCain is the pearly, white, blue blooded American.

BUT the majority of Americans are Red Blooded Americans.
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drjohn wrote:
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Obama is hoping for the evergy fairies to appear and more everything better.
Most of us with half a brain already have properly inflated tires. It's the rest of you who likely don't.
And you think that somehow, magically, we're going to have all sort of alternative energy sources to get us off foreign oil?
Wood burning? You want to deforest the country?
You can whine all you want, but the need for oil is going nowhere but up for the foreseeable future.
We need more supply- of our OWN oil. Only drilling will provide that. It can happen a lot sooner than Obama is lying about.
Whineing, It sounds like your the one whining.

I simply said, doing things to help ourselves.

I also simply said, Obama or Mccain do not have any "immediate" answers to the energy crisis.

I also simply said doing "simple" things like turning the heat down to 65, buring wood to heat the house, walking if there is no immediate need to drive, putting on warmer clothes, you know common sense stuff. Use your common sense.

Your looking for a miracle, I'm using common sense. That's what Obama uses, common sense.
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#245
Aug 8, 2008
 
Drill you idiot, DRILL! We know you want your muslim country men to make money, let them get it from the chinese. DRILL!

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Enron.....
Enron happened durring the Clinton Years! They were prosecuted by Busch.
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Aug 8, 2008
 
Ed K wrote:
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Enron happened durring the Clinton Years! They were prosecuted by Busch.
I responded, Mr. Ed. You never got back with me.

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Obama's money comes from regular people like you and me.

Empoyees of 2 of Americas leading oil companies have given more to Obamas campaign thatn McCains campaign.
Makes you wonder.......at least it should if your able to.

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Is this your "justification" and "minimization" of McCain offering to pimp out his wife to 50,000 bikers?
He told the little girl the truth, America is not what it use to be, why lie to her? Eventually she will find out on her own anyway. What is wrong with him not wanting the future that this country holds for his girls? Millions of people are not o.k. with it. You may be and that's your choice.
The course it's going they won't have a future......Your girls and my girls too.
Unclench a little and you might regain a sense of humor. If Cindy is not offended than back off.
The comment about the little girl asking Obama a question has to do with is decided lack of an answer. Which he is good at giving. If the best he can come up with is that lame uh uh the country isn't what it use to be.....than we are SOL.
I would like to know the real reason he is running since he stated 3yrs ago "I believe in having the expeience needed for a job before applying for it and I will not have that experience in only 3yrs" 4months after saying that he decided to start campaigning for a job is in not ready to assume. So 120 days into his "new job" he decided it wasn't good enough for him. He has one of the largest absentee records in the Senate........even higher than McCain & Clinton.

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What do you think of this? obama and The people that threw the Clintons under the bus and aloud obama to defame them as racist are scum. The clintons are heros to minorities one day and tossed aside as racist the next. How low can you obama backers get? Bill Clinton was lowered to telling the cameras yesterday "I AM NOT A RACIST" Sad....
obama tried that racist crap on Mccain and it backfired and showed us who the real racist is. Obama learned a lot from Rev. Wright and Farrakahn. I also know if 96% of whites vote for Mccain the racist word would be screamed from the roof tops, but its fine for "sisters and brothers" to do this.
Sad but true. If 90% of all whites were voting for McCain people would be screaming from the rooftops about the "racist whites".
Sadly if you are white and don't support Obama you still get called racist. It does not matter is you have valid reasons to not support him.
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Because you don't have any money.......
What is Real American anyway?
So you mean all those rich white people giving Obama there money arent Real Americans, well I'll be damn.......
I will briefly stoop to your poor assed level to tell you that people with real money don't discuss money....except with other moneyed people that's involved in making MORE money.
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Sad but true. If 90% of all whites were voting for McCain people would be screaming from the rooftops about the "racist whites".
Sadly if you are white and don't support Obama you still get called racist. It does not matter is you have valid reasons to not support him.
Nope. It's not true. You become a racist when you make racist COMMENTS about Obama. No one cares who you support. Just if you support someone know what THEY stand for.

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Nope. It's not true. You become a racist when you make racist COMMENTS about Obama. No one cares who you support. Just if you support someone know what THEY stand for.
Well sir than how do you explain how I have been called racist by Obama supporters and I have never said a single racist thing about him. I have repeatedly said his skin color does not matter to me. Hell im black/indian/white. Who cares about his skin color.
I am a freak.......I have read his books, McCains books, both candidates websites, watched numerous interviews, debates, townhall meetings, and clips of the candidates walking, talking and shaking hands.
So with that info am I still considered a racist for not supporting Obama? Most say yes.....I say that they need to look at themselves before accusing others.
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Well sir than how do you explain how I have been called racist by Obama supporters and I have never said a single racist thing about him. I have repeatedly said his skin color does not matter to me. Hell im black/indian/white. Who cares about his skin color.
I am a freak.......I have read his books, McCains books, both candidates websites, watched numerous interviews, debates, townhall meetings, and clips of the candidates walking, talking and shaking hands.
So with that info am I still considered a racist for not supporting Obama? Most say yes.....I say that they need to look at themselves before accusing others.
I don't disagree. However, is it possible that instead of talking about why you DON'T like Obama, people could understand your motives better is you talk about why you DO support McCain?

Let's look at it logically. People are saying over and over again, "I don't like Obama because...." "Obama is a ...." "Michelle hates America because...." Most of it without merit. Yet McCain is not held to the SAME standard. In this particular election, what is the EASIEST (no correct) assumption?

My thing is hold BOTH candidates to the SAME standard. Treat them BOTH the same. If you feel that after a thorough review McCain is the better candidate, vote for him. However, you should be able to say WHY.

Most of the people don't.

By the way, why did you call me "sir?"
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