Some illegal immigrants fear applying for licenses

Dec 30, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Daily Herald

When Illinois' top political leaders touted a proposal to allow illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licenses, it was painted as public safety measure and had the backing of immigrant rights advocates, who deemed it a positive step in the fight for immigration reform.

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ronnie

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It is not my experience at all. My people consider anybody who came through Ellis Island to be an invader. There is really no difference between the first waves of invaders and the present waves. They are all just people who are trying to take advantage of the country my people built.
It is surprising how little you know about Ellis Island though. Are you one of those people who thinks their family went through some extensive immigration process before they came here? Not the case at all. People just got on a boat and arrived here unannounced. No different then illegal immigrants today. The only difference is that we used to have welcome centers such as Ellis Island where they recorded people's names and gave them a quick once over.
The entire process took between two and five hours and then people were allowed to leave the island. They even had a nice little waiting area where the invaders families could wait until processing was completed.
The invaders were asked a series of 29 questions and the so-called "medical exam" averaged six seconds in length. How detailed do you think that examination was?
After showing that they had at least $18 to their name more than 98% of all invaders were allowed to stay.
If we built welcome centers on the Mexican border and told people they if they waited two hours they would have a 98% chance of entering, do you seriously think we would have anybody would bypass the welcome center.
Wrong again. My European ancestors. Were invited by Church's and Missionaries and they paid passage and passed several test's to be invited in. The Mexican migration has been as backasswards as anything I've seen. Civilized Society doesn't expect millions of uneducated, poor, culturally incapable of assimilation to come here live illegally in this Country. My family were invited by their Church and were American citizens only when they passed the test's and were ready to lose there citizenship in Europe. Mexicans do not assimilate, don't want to be American and want to change America and it's Culture and laws. We don't want that. We are Patriotic people with good intentions to follow our Laws and Constitution. And we simply can't afford them. No developed Country's in the World allow this to happen to them.
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It is not my experience at all. My people consider anybody who came through Ellis Island to be an invader. There is really no difference between the first waves of invaders and the present waves. They are all just people who are trying to take advantage of the country my people built.
It is surprising how little you know about Ellis Island though. Are you one of those people who thinks their family went through some extensive immigration process before they came here? Not the case at all. People just got on a boat and arrived here unannounced. No different then illegal immigrants today. The only difference is that we used to have welcome centers such as Ellis Island where they recorded people's names and gave them a quick once over.
The entire process took between two and five hours and then people were allowed to leave the island. They even had a nice little waiting area where the invaders families could wait until processing was completed.
The invaders were asked a series of 29 questions and the so-called "medical exam" averaged six seconds in length. How detailed do you think that examination was?
After showing that they had at least $18 to their name more than 98% of all invaders were allowed to stay.
If we built welcome centers on the Mexican border and told people they if they waited two hours they would have a 98% chance of entering, do you seriously think we would have anybody would bypass the welcome center.
I won't even debate you because you are a moron!
Memo From Turner

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I won't even debate you because you are a moron!
You are incapable of debating me. Who do you think you are kidding?
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ronnie wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again. My European ancestors. Were invited by Church's and Missionaries and they paid passage and passed several test's to be invited in. The Mexican migration has been as backasswards as anything I've seen. Civilized Society doesn't expect millions of uneducated, poor, culturally incapable of assimilation to come here live illegally in this Country. My family were invited by their Church and were American citizens only when they passed the test's and were ready to lose there citizenship in Europe. Mexicans do not assimilate, don't want to be American and want to change America and it's Culture and laws. We don't want that. We are Patriotic people with good intentions to follow our Laws and Constitution. And we simply can't afford them. No developed Country's in the World allow this to happen to them.
I don't know what tests the church imposed, but there were no tests involved with the immigration process.

Nobody thinks illegal or uncontrolled immigration is a good thing. It just strikes me as odd when people try to make it seem as if their ancestors were morally superior somehow because they "followed the rules" when there were no rules at all in place at the time.

Yes there are a lot of differences between then and now, but it is no secret that immigrants of the past were never highly regarded. The complaints were always the same. People did not like the fact that immigrants did not speak English, were dirty and lived in overcrowded conditions. The first generations always struggled, but the next generations assimilated and did fine.
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You are incapable of debating me. Who do you think you are kidding?
Of course I'm incapable debating you, you're a moron.
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This is a train wreck. When Obama leaves office the illegal aliens who have received licenses will continue to drive way pass deferred action.
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Of course I'm incapable debating you, you're a moron.
Nice broken English. Get back to me when you learn the language.
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Nice broken English. Get back to me when you learn the language.
I correct the mistake in the next post, moron!
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<corrected> Geez, I'm turning into a moron just trying to communicate with you.

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