Racism lurking at sundown in Iowa?

Racism lurking at sundown in Iowa? An author includes New Market, Ia., in a book that reveals how old laws forbade blacks from being in town after dark By REGISTER STAFF WRITER January 22, 2006 No ... Full Story
MEVBRO

Macomb, IL

#23 Jul 16, 2006
D NMN H wrote:
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Are you a person of color? I strongly disagree with your comment regarding racism in the south a near total myth. There are several forms racism. Educate yourself.
OK. I am educated, a person of color and a native Southerner. I moved to the Midwest 7 years ago for a job and I am now choosing to move back South. Why? Because never in my 36 years had I been called N***** or monkey. But it happened. And it continues to happen. I was in my front yard here in Macomb, IL with my dog and someone rode by and called out "N***** Monkey" to me. The funny thing about a community like Macomb, IL is that it is a university town with about 20,000 residents and home to a midsized university. Even with an educated population, the racism in this area is overwhelming. People seem to go out of their way to make non-white people (the few that are actually here) feel inferior and threatened. I know racism and I know that the Midwest is indeed the most racist region in the U.S. I have had the pleasure of living in many other areas both in the U.S. and abroad. Without any doubt and based on real experiences, the Midwestern region of the US is an awful place to live. Southern racism has nothing on Midwestern racism. At least in the South, even in the smallest towns, there is a black presence. Not so for this region.
Laci Jae

Woodbine, IA

#24 Jul 16, 2006
Anyone of you could go to www.wikipedia.org and search for the city you live in or the city you are thinking of and find out:
The racial makeup of the city was 98.78% White, 0.11% African American, 0.33% Native American, 0.22% Asian, 0.33% from other races, and 0.22% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1.11% of the population.
I don't know if this will help or hinder what you are all talking about but it might help you find a town more suited to what you want.... I am not racist nor do I condone people who are. I've lived in several states with several neighbors and I don't think Iowa as a whole is racist, but I think no matter where you go there is going to be someone or some group who doesn't except you...and I'm sorry for that....
marie Lewis

Keller, TX

#25 Jul 16, 2006
Heather wrote:
I currently live in Garland (dallas), TX; and will possibly be moving up to Iowa.. From some of the posts I have been reading, it seems that Iowa has shut it's doors to "people of color" and only allows whites. I can't believe this is true. I have visited web sites of surrounding communities (looking for homes) and it shows city wide festivities with blacks and whites enjoying each others company. I also find it kind of amusing that some of these stories are 30-40 years old (back in the 1960's w/ my grandparents...or in 1970 class....)
I grew up in the south, and let me tell you racism is alive and well. If anything, it is more prevelant here. Not only is it whites against people of color-it's african-american against hispanic and anglo-americans, asian americans and so on. There is even racism with-in one's own race; if you are in a bi-racial relationship or a certain economical class. I would say the south is worse on this issue because of the huge diversity we have. I wonder if any of these peoples' child/parent/spouse were to need an organ if they would be so picky?
I think no matter where one goes he/she will find SOME kind of bigotry; be it socio-economical, race, religion.
Our forefathers came over to the Americas for a reason...to leave all that behind and then some. If you truely think about it; aren't we all aliens? Some of us only need to look back 2-3 generations and realize our family did not originate in the good ole U S of A.
I am hoping when my family and I make up there, that we are welcomed in the community and treated with respect.
Well Garland then why are you moving??Could it be to get away from this???
"This place is loaded," Baker said, surveying the Ohio trailer park. "We could probably arrest a couple of thousand people in an hour if we wanted to. But we don't do that, we do targeted arrests." The targets are an estimated 590,000 illegal immigrants who have been designated as "fugitive aliens"—foreign nationals who either failed to appear for a scheduled Immigration hearing or ignored an Immigration judge's orders to leave the country. ICE estimates that 50,000 to 75,000 fugitive aliens are also "criminal aliens" convicted of local, state or federal offenses. Those are the team's priority targets. "The people we are going after have already had their day in court," said John Torres, acting director of ICE's Detention and Removal Operations.

He may be right. The immigration debate in Washington and the rest of the country has largely focused on securing the borders to keep illegals out. Much less known are the efforts of Pilat and other full-time agents like him, who crisscross the country searching for and deporting those who are already here. The ICE Fugitive Ops teams are a growing force. At the start of 2006, there were 18 of them. That number has now more than doubled, to 38. By the end of this year there will be 52 teams, totaling more than 300 federal agents. The official purpose of the program is to provide "interior enforcement" of U.S. immigration laws. But Robin Baker, head of the program's Detroit field office, voiced another, unofficial goal: to put undocumented immigrants on notice, and on edge. "We are going to send a message," Baker told agents at an early-morning briefing last week at the Columbus Police Academy. "We're going to start restoring integrity to the nation's immigration system."
marie Lewis

Keller, TX

#26 Jul 16, 2006
And people call us racist because we don't want a bunch of Illegals here...Hmmm wonder why??

"This place is loaded," Baker said, surveying the Ohio trailer park. "We could probably arrest a couple of thousand people in an hour if we wanted to. But we don't do that, we do targeted arrests." The targets are an estimated 590,000 illegal immigrants who have been designated as "fugitive aliens"—foreign nationals who either failed to appear for a scheduled Immigration hearing or ignored an Immigration judge's orders to leave the country. ICE estimates that 50,000 to 75,000 fugitive aliens are also "criminal aliens" convicted of local, state or federal offenses. Those are the team's priority targets. "The people we are going after have already had their day in court," said John Torres, acting director of ICE's Detention and Removal Operations.

He may be right. The immigration debate in Washington and the rest of the country has largely focused on securing the borders to keep illegals out. Much less known are the efforts of Pilat and other full-time agents like him, who crisscross the country searching for and deporting those who are already here. The ICE Fugitive Ops teams are a growing force. At the start of 2006, there were 18 of them. That number has now more than doubled, to 38. By the end of this year there will be 52 teams, totaling more than 300 federal agents. The official purpose of the program is to provide "interior enforcement" of U.S. immigration laws. But Robin Baker, head of the program's Detroit field office, voiced another, unofficial goal: to put undocumented immigrants on notice, and on edge. "We are going to send a message," Baker told agents at an early-morning briefing last week at the Columbus Police Academy. "We're going to start restoring integrity to the nation's immigration system."
D NMN H

Minneapolis, MN

#27 Jul 17, 2006
MEVBRO wrote:
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OK. I am educated, a person of color and a native Southerner. I moved to the Midwest 7 years ago for a job and I am now choosing to move back South. Why? Because never in my 36 years had I been called N***** or monkey. But it happened. And it continues to happen. I was in my front yard here in Macomb, IL with my dog and someone rode by and called out "N***** Monkey" to me. The funny thing about a community like Macomb, IL is that it is a university town with about 20,000 residents and home to a midsized university. Even with an educated population, the racism in this area is overwhelming. People seem to go out of their way to make non-white people (the few that are actually here) feel inferior and threatened. I know racism and I know that the Midwest is indeed the most racist region in the U.S. I have had the pleasure of living in many other areas both in the U.S. and abroad. Without any doubt and based on real experiences, the Midwestern region of the US is an awful place to live. Southern racism has nothing on Midwestern racism. At least in the South, even in the smallest towns, there is a black presence. Not so for this region.
Tons of African Americans and non-whites in Iowa... LOL... Come on, seriously.. You can't base one region you lived for a short time on being "more racist than the south", if there such a thing. You can't move away from ignorance. It's all around us. The quality of the life in the midwest is the best compared to other regions in the US. The weather just sucks.
Alex - Waterloo

Fort Dodge, IA

#28 Jul 17, 2006
I agree that racism is very present in Iowa. I believe its severity and acceptability varies with region. I think that racism is probably more pronounced in the older generations because it was not that long ago that people of races other that white started moving into the area. The midwest was the last place in the US to be setteled and it has taken a longer time for people of other races to migrate here from the rest of the United States.
I believe that this is the reason for the racism, that their prescence was not felt here until recently. So as people are naturally afraid of what is different, they did not accept the prescece of these "new" people to their area. My mother is 47 years old and has very strong opinions about people of other races. I have talked with her several times about this but she resigns to say "This is the way I grew up, and I'm not going to change." Where as when I grew we learned in school it was wrong to dislike other people. I have a very strong stance against racism, and I tell people when I hear that I don't like it.
T JEFFERSON

Monroe City, MO

#29 Jul 18, 2006
If anyone is considering moving to Iowa (persons of any color) you should most certainly avoid Windsor Heights,a suburb just west of Des Moines. Do not make the mistake of driving through this little enclave with out of state plates. I am not a person of color,but this small area represents the worst area for civil rights violations of any community I have ever seen. There are 14 cops in a town of about 4500 people,fattened by traffic tickets for every type of citation (real or imagined) that could be ticketed. Avoid this area,like the plague,which it has become!
Little Help

Las Vegas, NV

#30 Jul 18, 2006
I have lived in Iowa all my life and I've never been in any establishment or town that to my awareness, bans people because they are a minority race. Although, I will say I grew up in Iowa City which is fairly liberal and I've never even heard of that town that the article speaks of. My city has a large influx of all kinds of different minorities (college town) and I see them in my community and neighborhood everyday without incident.

IMHO, this seems to be a case of picking the bad apple and making generalizations about the whole bunch (Iowa). I'm not saying that in my life I've never heard someone make a racist comment, I've met a few ignorant white hicks in my life, but I am saying that no one that I am close to (friends or family) are racist. The couple who lives next door to me is black and they're great neighbors and I've never heard of them or any other of the minority families in our neighborhood having any problems with any of the other residents.
childhood friend

Cedar Rapids, IA

#31 Jul 18, 2006
Chris Simmons wrote:
Since i was born and raised in central iowa and now have expierienced other parts of the nation i would say that the midwest is Obviously the most racist area i have ever been in i now live in Columbia,SC and the racism that i thought i would find here in the south is nearly a total myth. but back home i hear about racism everyday.
ya hear that chris you'r a sheepfucker! haha hey it's Ashley call me I lost your number!
mike k

Omaha, NE

#32 Jul 18, 2006
Iowa is not that raciest.i dont see kkk around here and i live in iowa.To have someone write in here and say iowa a bunch of biased people maybe in your little town of 500 people .But for you to speak for northwest or the whole state of iowa your wrong iowa is not raciest.
BWE

Huntington Park, CA

#33 Jul 19, 2006
Racism does not need to be as obvious as a KKK member. I think any town you go into where there is a large showing of minorities, or small general population, you will see some racism, maybe not as open as in other big cities.
I lived in Iowa most of my life, and similar to Alex, my father opposes black people living here. He has told me it stems from when John Deere was strong and vibrant in Waterloo and blacks from the south came up here to work at JD. Thus taking away jobs from the local white boys and stirring up resentment.
Ryan

Muscatine, IA

#34 Jul 19, 2006
Tweedle Dee wrote:
There are tons of blacks, Mexicans, and other "non-whites" living in Iowa. In fact, I'm white and I feel like a minority now. I haven't heard of any racially motivated issues in quite some time either.
Funny...look at the statistics...apparently "taken over" is less than 10%
Tweedle Dee

AOL

#35 Jul 20, 2006
Ryan wrote:
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Funny...look at the statistics...apparently "taken over" is less than 10%
I guess that the whole 10% must live within a 30 mile radius of me then. Either that or there are a lot of illegals roaming around.
sthrn ioway

Marion, IA

#36 Jul 20, 2006
Honestly, I don't think rural areas of Iowa are any more or less racial than anywhere else. The point of the book is that old laws that were established in the 1800s when areas were settled still exist in some of these small towns to date. It's simple in that there was never a priority put into updating some of these old laws.

I know for a fact one of these old southern iowa towns still have the blacks can not stay in town and has blacks living there day to day. If the law was ever revisited - it would get lambasted. Just a thought.
Mike

Davenport, IA

#37 Jul 20, 2006
Yes, black people get to live in Iowa. Come to Davenport Iowa some time and check it out. Two of our three public high schools have minority populations of over 25%. Racism exists everywhere among all types of people. The only racially motivated crime I can remember here recently is when a group of black kids from one of our inner city middle schools tried to make a bus stop by the school a "black only" stop and beat the living crap out of a white kid who tried to catch the bus there. I was born and raised here and returned about 14 years ago, but have also lived in Texas, Oklahoma and California. Believe me, people hate each other equally in all of those places. Yes, it is probably difficult for a person of color to move into a small town in Iowa and fit in, but I have seen it happen. Probably not as tough as it would be for me, a white man, to move to Compton California and survive.
Vern Beachy

Chardon, OH

#38 Jul 24, 2006
I am getting ready to move back to my native Iowa after having lived in Memphis and New Mexico for more than a decade. New Mexico is BY FAR the most racist place in which I have lived.
childhood friend

Cedar Rapids, IA

#39 Jul 24, 2006
I happen to live in Iowa City which is the most liberal part of Iowa and I hardly ever encounter racism. However step just outside of Iowa City into the more rural parts of Iowa and you will experience more instances of racism. There is an exception of a few towns that have become more minority inhabited, West Liberty being one of them. But as for Iowa as a hole I would say there are a lot of older folks who are very set in their ways but for the younger generation I would say they are pretty open minded
Charles Swerndon

Los Angeles, CA

#40 Jul 25, 2006
Racism is the sympton, Ignorance is the Disease.
D NMN H

Minneapolis, MN

#41 Jul 26, 2006
Charles Swerndon wrote:
Racism is the sympton, Ignorance is the Disease.
There's a cure for both...
From a small town

Solon, IA

#42 Jul 27, 2006
On this site it shows up that I live in North Liberty, but I do not. I attend an extremely small school(250 kids total in the high school) I do think it depends on what part of Iowa you live in. In my town, we are tiny, and everyone is pretty much racsits because their parents are and they don't know any better. We had a discussion in my U.S. History class about this. The teacher ask our class "What would your parents do if you brought home someone of a different race and informed them(your parents) that this person was your boyfriend or girlfriend." I was amazingly suprised to find out I was THE ONLY person in the class to say my parents wouldn't care at all (there were 25 kids in my class) so for the most part I believe that the people that are racists are that way because of their parents or because they just have not had the experience to be friends or socialize with people of a different race.

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