Judge throws out federal death senten...

Judge throws out federal death sentence for Iowa woman convicted of killing 5 people in 1993

There are 39 comments on the Star Tribune story from Mar 23, 2012, titled Judge throws out federal death sentence for Iowa woman convicted of killing 5 people in 1993. In it, Star Tribune reports that:

IOWA CITY, Iowa - A judge removed one of the two women on federal death row Friday, saying lawyers for the Iowa woman convicted in the 1993 execution-style murders of five people failed to present evidence about her troubled mental state that could have spared her from capital punishment.

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Ex Senator Stillborn

Wilmington, DE

#24 Mar 25, 2012
anneutral wrote:
what are you guys talking about?
this woman is guilty; that is not in question.
You are another total moron. If the police or prosecutors themselves behave illegally the prosecution of the criminal is null.

Or rather should be. The cops and DAs get away with a lot, usually. It has to be an amazing breach for them to get held to account.

Of course they won't go to prison for their own law breaking....

You literally do not understand what "a nation of laws" means. You do not understand the adversarial system. You do not understand the article.

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#25 Mar 25, 2012
Ex Senator Stillborn wrote:
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You are another total moron. If the police or prosecutors themselves behave illegally the prosecution of the criminal is null.
Or rather should be. The cops and DAs get away with a lot, usually. It has to be an amazing breach for them to get held to account.
Of course they won't go to prison for their own law breaking....
You literally do not understand what "a nation of laws" means. You do not understand the adversarial system. You do not understand the article.
I do understand the article.
she killed people and was sentenced to death.
it has become clear that evidence of her mental state was withheld, which means she should NOT be executed.

Since: May 09

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#26 Mar 25, 2012
Ex Senator Stillborn wrote:
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Hey mongoloid, I have clearly claimed both.
Start with the first: Innocent people have been taken from death row.
The above alone is proof, since that shows innocent people do wind up on death row. The system sentences innocent people to death. It's proven.
What happened to such people _before_ DNA testing was available? The got executed, since there was no way to establish their innocence.
So your braying metric is false. The DNA testing does not focus on the already dead, because the living who might be innocent are the priority. They could be saved from wrongful execution after their faulty convictions, if applicable.
So that settles the matter of your disingenuous demand for only one particular kind of evidence. There's two situations that prove the fallibility of the capital punishment industry.
As for the second instance - people who were wrongfully executed - there are proven cases. There are cases using DNA and cases using other reconsidered evidence. All anyone would need to do is that google search I supplied.
But it is not necessary. We _know_ innocent people get sentenced to death and wind up on death row all the time.
You are an anti rational, lying, power mad, death wishing, rights trampling blowhard.
Sorry, but it is you who is the liar! THERE IS NOONE who has been PROVEN innocent after they were executed in modern history since 1976. And all of the crap that you blow out your hole will not change that in any manner, shape, or form.
Romney s Airtight Crate

Wilmington, DE

#27 Mar 25, 2012
anneutral wrote:
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I do understand the article.
she killed people and was sentenced to death.
it has become clear that evidence of her mental state was withheld, which means she should NOT be executed.
That is what the brownshirts are objecting to. Go back and read the thread.

Which of the lawbreaking prosecutors will join her in prison?
Romney s Airtight Crate

Wilmington, DE

#28 Mar 25, 2012
Bill----- wrote:
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Sorry, but it is you who is the liar! THERE IS NOONE who has been PROVEN innocent after they were executed in modern history since 1976
That has nothing to do with the matter under discussion. It is a false metric. It is too narrow a focus for the reasons I have so carefully laid out.

It is also false. Many people have been shown to have been innocent after their executions. You're playing word games.

The point remains: DNA finds _lots_ of falsely convicted people still alive on death row.

But because they have been found before they were executed your absurd, dissembling horsesht metric cannot be met in those cases. They weren't falsely executed.

What about all the people executed on death row prior to the intervention of DNA testing? We know how many people after the intervention of DNA testing have been falsely sentenced to die.

And finally, you lying pos, you haven't backed up your outrageous, anti rational, bald faced lie that advocates for justice claim _every_ person convicted of a capital crime is actually innocent.

You may present your made up (nonexistent) evidence now, Jethro, you lying filth.

Since: May 09

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#29 Mar 26, 2012
Romney s Airtight Crate wrote:
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That has nothing to do with the matter under discussion. It is a false metric. It is too narrow a focus for the reasons I have so carefully laid out.
It is also false. Many people have been shown to have been innocent after their executions. You're playing word games.
The point remains: DNA finds _lots_ of falsely convicted people still alive on death row.
But because they have been found before they were executed your absurd, dissembling horsesht metric cannot be met in those cases. They weren't falsely executed.
What about all the people executed on death row prior to the intervention of DNA testing? We know how many people after the intervention of DNA testing have been falsely sentenced to die.
And finally, you lying pos, you haven't backed up your outrageous, anti rational, bald faced lie that advocates for justice claim _every_ person convicted of a capital crime is actually innocent.
You may present your made up (nonexistent) evidence now, Jethro, you lying filth.
You have not laid out anything that is remotely accurate. All you keep doing is keep proving that you have no idea what you are talking about. You have never identified a single person in recent history who has been wrongfully executed. PROVE IT!

Since: May 09

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#31 Mar 26, 2012
Mitt s Dead Jew Baptism wrote:
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No, you're deliberately lying.
The standard you have chosen is a false one. It is purposefully to narrow to avoid the unpleasant facts.....
Apart from these cases of living people on death row being exonerated, there are cases - fewer - of people who were put to death and then later shown to have been innocent, either by DNA or by other forms of new evidence......
....
No body but a complete idiot would keep up the argument that you are putting forth without a shred of evidence to back up your statements. There is not one iota of a false standard. Pick any one of the 1288 executions and PROVE it!

For the last time put up or shut up! Tell us all about all of those people who have been executed who have been PROVEN innocent who have been executed. You know you cannot because it has not happened! And you know it! The anti-death penalty groups have tried and tried and tried to prove just one and they cannot do it!

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#33 Mar 26, 2012
Mitt s Dead Jew Baptism wrote:
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Again, we know that innocent people have been released from death row thanks to DNA evidence.
Any rational person could know from this that there were therefore innocent people on death row prior to DNA evidence's advent. And that they got killed.
That's not too difficult for non Tea Baggers.
By the way, you claimed earlier that DNA testing advocates claim all people on death row are innocent. You should prove this claim of yours.
PROVE IT!

Since: May 09

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#35 Mar 27, 2012
Mitt s Dead Jew Baptism wrote:
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I already directed people to the Innocence Project.
There's no question they've sprung innocent people from death row using DNA.
What was happening prior to DNA testing...?
By the way, you claimed earlier that DNA testing advocates claim all people on death row are innocent.
"PROVE IT!"
You fcking retard.
Thank you so very much for proving once again that you you are a liar. I made no such claim! My posts have been #15, 17, 19, 20, 26, 29, 31, and 33 for anyone to check out.

Once again you still have no idea what you are talking about, but like a little child or feeble minded person you have gotten caught in a lie and have no where to go but keep up your lies. Goodbye sicko!
Ex Senator Saintpornum

Wilmington, DE

#36 Mar 27, 2012
Bill----- wrote:
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I agree that the I.P. has found examples of people on death row being innocent, but that IS NOT WHAT YOU HAVE CLAIMED!
Hey mongoloid, what happened to such people before DNA testing came onto the scene...?

Since: May 09

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#37 Mar 27, 2012
Ex Senator Saintpornum wrote:
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Hey mongoloid, what happened to such people before DNA testing came onto the scene...?
I really cannot believe that you are that stupid that you cannot figure out that they can go back thru the evidence and do DNA testing even after the person has been executed. Matter of fact for the anti-death penalty groups that would even be better. However, they would rather use implied statements and just like you, no facts!
Don't bother saying that it cannot be done, because as I pointed out, it has been done!
Ex Senator Saintpornum

Wilmington, DE

#38 Mar 27, 2012
Bill----- wrote:
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I really cannot believe that you are that stupid that you cannot figure out that they can go back thru the evidence and do DNA testing even after the person has been executed.
But you're a liar. I said obviously that scarce resources of these non profits is focused on saving the living.

And since these other cases are by definition prior to DNA testing's invention, it would mean exhumations, not a simple thing.

BTW mongoloid, what happened to such innocent people you admit were put on death row before DNA testing came onto the scene...?

You're a sht faced, Tea Bagging, anti rational liar.

Since: May 09

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#39 Mar 27, 2012
Ex Senator Saintpornum wrote:
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But you're a liar. I said obviously that scarce resources of these non profits is focused on saving the living.
And since these other cases are by definition prior to DNA testing's invention, it would mean exhumations, not a simple thing.
BTW mongoloid, what happened to such innocent people you admit were put on death row before DNA testing came onto the scene...?
You're a sht faced, Tea Bagging, anti rational liar.
Thank you idiot! Once again you prove you have no idea what you are talking about!

Point: they do not have scant resources.

Point: exhumations are not required.

Point: you describe your self very well, "You're a sht faced, Tea Bagging, anti rational liar."

Very nice insight into your true being. You cannot discuss and issue intelligently or rationally, so you resort to name calling and profanity.

BTW just to help you along you might find the following interesting about DNA testing history: The use of genetic tests in forensics goes back a century to the discovery of blood typing. But it wasnÂ’t until the development of the first DNA fingerprinting techniques by Alec Jeffreys in 1984, followed by the development of PCR based methods, that such testing began to show its full potential. As these techniques became more widespread, research in the 1990s and 2000s improved on them significantly, extending the boundaries of their application to situations unimaginable only a few decades earlier." Learn something.

Since: May 09

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#40 Mar 27, 2012
BTW go back and read post #35. You still have not PROVEN anything from your claims.
justaguy

Gaines, MI

#41 Mar 27, 2012
Bill----- wrote:
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Interesting comments from one who has no idea what he/she is talking about.
Once again since you obviously cannot read: Please give us the names of all those executed people who have been proven innocent by DNA testing.
I'll help you in the wrong direction. Check out Roger Keith Coleman executed in 1992 after a decade+ of claims of innocence. In 2006 after another 14 years DNA testing was done and it was proven that he was the guilty person.
All it will take is ONE case in modern history where it is PROVEN that an innocent person was executed and the death penalty will become a thing of the past. Better luck next time!
http://www.tshaonline.org/hand book/online/articles/fro50
Ex Senator Saintpornum

Wilmington, DE

#42 Mar 27, 2012
Bill----- wrote:
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Point: they do not have scant resources.
Point: exhumations are not required.
Hey filth, you've admitted that innocent people have been released from death row by DNA evidence.

What happened to the similar people who were on death row prior to DNA testing?

Answer you mongoloidal, sht faced cretin.

And no non profit has unlimited resources. Everyone has to choose priorities. Even the Gates Foundation.

And prior to DNA testing no DNA samples of those executed on death row would have been taken or kept. Because there was no DNA testing. Exhumations would be required.

You are a bald, sft faced liar.

Since: May 09

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#43 Mar 27, 2012
justaguy wrote:
The page you requested does not exist. For your convenience, a search was performed using the query hand OR book OR fro50.

??? what are you trying to reference ???
Ex Senator Saintpornum

Wilmington, DE

#44 Mar 27, 2012
Bill----- wrote:
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The page you requested does not exist. For your convenience, a search was performed using the query hand OR book OR fro50.
??? what are you trying to reference ???
Hey mongoloid, what happened to the similar people who were on death row prior to DNA testing?
David Christman

Mentor, OH

#45 Mar 31, 2012
Romney s Airtight Crate wrote:
What about all the people executed on death row prior to the intervention of DNA testing?
Preventing the execution of the guilty today will do nothing for those people. Just as it will do nothing for the hundreds of people killed by murderers who were not executed after their first murder conviction. The execution of murderers saves innocent lives, none of your phoney arguments can changes that. Puting murderers back on the streets is not healthy for children or other living things.

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