Minnesota Rep. Bachmann brings tea pa...

Minnesota Rep. Bachmann brings tea party message to Iowa, sparking talk of presidential run

There are 12 comments on the Penticton Herald story from Jan 21, 2011, titled Minnesota Rep. Bachmann brings tea party message to Iowa, sparking talk of presidential run. In it, Penticton Herald reports that:

Ultra-conservative Congresswoman Michele Bachmann brought her tea party message and possible 2012 presidential ambitions to Iowa on Friday night, speaking before an influential anti-tax group that shares many of the Republican's views.

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Vice Prez

Elk River, MN

#1 Jan 22, 2011
She would make a great Vice Prez for Chris Christie. Christie will be the nominee for the GOP in 2012.
The Big E

Portland, OR

#2 Jan 22, 2011
MPR analyzes Bachmann's history of dishonesty

by: The Big E
Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 17:00:00 PM CST

Minnesota Public Radio did something unprecedented in Michele Bachmann's decade of political activity: they analyzed her history of dishonesty. Few news organizations aside from MPR and WCCO's Reality Check even will write a story and assert that something she said is a lie. But this is the first time that a news organization has analyzed her history of lying and acknowledge how often she lies.
Tom Scheck brings up a couple of her biggest and craziest whoppers:

Iran has secret plans to divide Iraq.

Obama's India trip cost $200 million per day.

Health Care Reform is responsible for health insurance premium increases.

Illegal immigrants have access to health insurance under HCR.

5 million jobs would be lost under HCR.

PolitiFact finding all 13 of her statements that they have analyzed as False or "Pants on Fire."
And then Tom Scheck broke even more new ground -- he asked follow up questions:

The Big E :: MPR analyzes Bachmann's history of dishonesty
When MPR News asked Bachmann this week to discuss the many challenges to her credibility, the congresswoman dodged the question. Instead, she questioned the truthfulness of President Obama -- saying he has misled the public about the federal stimulus and the health care law.
"President Obama gave us the opposite information," Bachmann said. "That's where the fact-checking needs to be held, because President Obama needs to be held accountable for not telling the American people about all of the failures that have come along."

Bachmann then went on to repeat her earlier misstatements.

If Bachmann makes a run for the presidency, she is sure to step up her media appearances and speaking engagement -- which would invite additional scrutiny.

But that may not mean Bachmann will take more care with facts.

Norm Ornstein, a congressional scholar with the American Enterprise Institute, said politicians have become increasingly dismissive of facts.

"Respect for facts just doesn't mean a whole lot any more," Ornstein said. "You don't get punished. You don't get shamed if you say things that are patently false. Let's face it: for many, repeating them over and over again -- even after you've been told and it's been made clear that what you say is false -- just doesn't have any impact at all."
wolverines

San Jose, CA

#3 Jan 22, 2011
Good to know my tax dollors are going to MPR smear campaigns.
wolverines

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#4 Jan 22, 2011
wolverines wrote:
Good to know my tax dollors are going to MPR smear campaigns.
That is called 'factual reporting' in the real world.
PolitiFact

Ames, IA

#5 Jan 22, 2011
PolitiFact score: Bachmann ... 7 'false,' 6 'ridiculously false'

By Brian Lambert | Friday, Jan. 21, 2011

For a major public figure as, uh,“prone to major misstatements” as Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, it's surprising you don’t read a story like Tom Scheck’s at MPR every day. Says Scheck:“[I]independent fact checkers find that the information she relies on is often exaggerated, misleading or wrong. PolitiFact, a Pulitzer Prize-winning feature of the St. Petersburg Times that checks whether statements made by politicians are true, has repeatedly determined that Bachmann's claim don't ring true.‘We have checked her 13 times, and [found] seven of her claims to be false and six have been found to be ridiculously false,’ PolitiFact editor Bill Adair said. Adair said no politician has been checked as often as Bachmann without saying at least something that's true.”

Scheck adds:“In a nine-minute interview with Bachmann on Minnesota Public Radio News' Morning Edition program earlier this month, Bachmann made at least four misleading or false statements. For example, she suggested the new federal health care law is the main reason health insurance premiums have increased across the country.”
Michelle is a Misfit

Framingham, MA

#7 Jan 22, 2011
PolitiFact wrote:
PolitiFact score: Bachmann ... 7 'false,' 6 'ridiculously false'
By Brian Lambert | Friday, Jan. 21, 2011
For a major public figure as, uh,“prone to major misstatements” as Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, it's surprising you don’t read a story like Tom Scheck’s at MPR every day. Says Scheck:“[I]independent fact checkers find that the information she relies on is often exaggerated, misleading or wrong. PolitiFact, a Pulitzer Prize-winning feature of the St. Petersburg Times that checks whether statements made by politicians are true, has repeatedly determined that Bachmann's claim don't ring true.‘We have checked her 13 times, and [found] seven of her claims to be false and six have been found to be ridiculously false,’ PolitiFact editor Bill Adair said. Adair said no politician has been checked as often as Bachmann without saying at least something that's true.”
Scheck adds:“In a nine-minute interview with Bachmann on Minnesota Public Radio News' Morning Edition program earlier this month, Bachmann made at least four misleading or false statements. For example, she suggested the new federal health care law is the main reason health insurance premiums have increased across the country.”
So now an independent nonpartisan website finds multiple lies by Bachmann over just a few days.

What more will it take to convince people what an idiot she is!
Archie from Coon Rapids

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Jan 22, 2011
The nationally Popular Representative

MICHELE BACHMANN is making the socialist progressive left more nervous than Barney Frank at a hot dog stand.

The Comrades of the socialist progressive left are in a "stampede Mood" watch em.
wolverines

San Jose, CA

#9 Jan 22, 2011
They sure are scared.
Rchie

Houston, TX

#11 Jan 22, 2011
Us-Obama Approval: 50% Approve, 46% Disapprove (ARG 1/17-20)

American Research Group

1/17-20/11; 1,100 adults, 2.6% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
ARG release

National
Obama Job Approval

50% Approve, 46% Disapprove
Economy: 49% Approve, 49% Disapprove

++++++++

US-Obama Approval: 49% Approve, 39% Disapprove (CBS/Times 1/15-19)

CBS News / New York Times
1/15-19/11; 1,036 adults, 3% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews

National

Obama Job Approval

49% Approve, 39% Disapprove
Foreign Policy: 46 / 32
Economy: 41 / 52

State of the Country
32% Right Direction, 64% Wrong Track

Favorable / Unfavorable
Barack Obama: 40 / 34
Sarah Palin: 19 / 57

Party ID
34% Democrat, 27% Republican, 38% independent

++++++++

EVEN CONSERVATIVE FOX NEWS SHOWS OBAMA NUMBERS UP!

++++++++

US-Obama Approval: 47% Approve, 44% Disapprove (Fox News 1/18-19)

Fox News / Opinion Dynamics
1/18-19/11; 900 registered voters, 3% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews

Fox release

National

Obama Job Approval
47% Approve, 44% Disapprove

Congressional Job Approval
22% Approve, 65% Disapprove

Favorable / Unfavorable
Barack Obama: 56 / 40

State of the Country
37% Satisfied, 61% Dissatisfied

Party ID
37% Democrat, 34% Republican, 22% independent

++++++++

US-Obama Approval: 53% Approve, 44% Disapprove (Resurgent Republic 1/12-16)
Resurgent Republic (R)
1/12-16/11; 1,000 registered voters, 3.1% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews

Resurgent Republic release

National

Obama Job Approval
53% Approve, 44% Disapprove

State of the Country
34% Right Direction, 57% Wrong Track

Favorable / Unfavorable
Barack Obama: 55 / 31

++++++++

US-2012 President: 49% Obama, 44% Huckabee (PPP 1/14-16)
Public Policy Polling
1/14-16/11; 632 registered voters, 3.9% margin of error
Mode: Automated phone

PPP release

National

2012 President
49% Obama, 44% Huckabee
55% Obama, 38% Palin
51% Obama, 39% Gingrich
48% Obama, 43% Romney
51% Obama, 33% Bachmann

Favorable / Unfavorable
Mike Huckabee: 37 / 38
Sarah Palin: 35 / 58
Newt Gingrich: 31 / 52
Mitt Romney: 36 / 40
Michelle Bachmann: 22 /31

++++++++

US-Obama Approval: 53% Approve, 41% Disapprove (NBC/WSJ 1/13-17)

NBC News / Wall Street Journal
1/13-17/11; 1,000 adults, 3.1% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews

National

State of the Country
35% Right Direction, 56% Wrong Track

Obama Job Approval
53% Approve, 41% Disapprove

Economy: 45 / 50

2012 President: General Election
51% Obama, 41% Huckabee
54% Obama, 35% Gingrich

2012 President: Republican Primary (Republicans Only)
19% Romney
18% Huckabee
14% Palin
10% Gingrich
8% Paul
5% Pawlenty
3% Daniels
3% Santorum
2% Barbour
1% Thune

Positive / Negative
Barack Obama: 52 / 32
Sarah Palin: 27 / 49

++++++++

US-Palin Rating: 38% Favorable, 56% Unfavorable (CNN 1/14-16)

NN / Opinion Research Corporation
1/14-16/11; 1,014 adults, 3% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
CNN release

National

Favorable / Unfavorable
Sarah Palin: 38 / 56

++++++++

US-Obama Favorable: 53% Favorable, 45% Unfavorable (USA Today / Gallup 1/14-16)

USA Today / Gallup
1/14-16/11; 1,032 adults, 4% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews

Gallup release

National

Favorable / Unfavorable
Barack Obama: 53 / 45
Sarah Palin: 38 / 53
The Big E

Clarks Summit, PA

#12 Jan 22, 2011
Conservatives try to defend Bachmann's rhetoric
by: The Big E

Fri Jan 14, 2011 at 18:00:00 PM CST

-- Defending the indefensible is tough --

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) is under the spotlight nationally for her violent rhetoric. Many on the left are criticizing the tone that she and many others use. Paul Krugman is the latest in his column for the NY Times.

Where's that toxic rhetoric coming from? Let's not make a false pretense of balance: it's coming, overwhelmingly, from the right. It's hard to imagine a Democratic member of Congress urging constituents to be "armed and dangerous" without being ostracized; but Representative Michele Bachmann, who did just that, is a rising star in the G.O.P.

Bachmann's conservative defenders weren't going to let this slight pass. They called Krugman of all kinds of unmentionable things, but the only substantial accusation is he took her out of context.

Her defenders aren't the sharpest spoons in the knife drawer. Here's the entire context:

But you can get all the latest information on this event, this ... a must-go-to event with this Chris Horner. People will learn ... it will be fascinating. We met with Chris Horner last week, 20 members of Congress. It takes a lot to wow members of Congress after a while. This wowed them. And I am going to have materials for people when they leave. I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back. Thomas Jefferson told us, having a revolution every now and then is a good thing, and the people--we the people--are going to have to fight back hard if we're not going to lose our country. And I think this has the potential of changing the dynamic of freedom forever in the United States and that's why I want everyone to come out and hear. So go to bachmann.house.gov and you can get all the information.

So wait -- your defense of Bachmann is that, in the context of urging her followers to be "armed and dangerous," she immediately proceeded to extol the benefits of armed revolution? This is supposed to be exculpatory? I think it's a perfect example of the right's hysteria directly legitimizing violence.
Archie from Coon Rapids

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Jan 22, 2011
BIG E

If Soros would let you helpers read some actual news you would have known long ago that the great and Nationally populat Representative Michele Bachman wanted her constituents to be Armed with Facts (Hell you soros people dont know what facts mean) And dangerous to the socialist and progressive left in order to confront their mendacious and careless assaults on the good people that live a conservative life,

Kind of like I have done with this post.

“Progressive USA”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#14 Jan 22, 2011
MPR analyzes Bachmann's history of dishonesty

by: The Big E
Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 17:00:00 PM CST

Minnesota Public Radio did something unprecedented in Michele Bachmann's decade of political activity: they analyzed her history of dishonesty. Few news organizations aside from MPR and WCCO's Reality Check even will write a story and assert that something she said is a lie. But this is the first time that a news organization has analyzed her history of lying and acknowledge how often she lies.
Tom Scheck brings up a couple of her biggest and craziest whoppers:

Iran has secret plans to divide Iraq.

Obama's India trip cost $200 million per day.

Health Care Reform is responsible for health insurance premium increases.

Illegal immigrants have access to health insurance under HCR.

5 million jobs would be lost under HCR.

PolitiFact finding all 13 of her statements that they have analyzed as False or "Pants on Fire."
And then Tom Scheck broke even more new ground -- he asked follow up questions:

The Big E :: MPR analyzes Bachmann's history of dishonesty
When MPR News asked Bachmann this week to discuss the many challenges to her credibility, the congresswoman dodged the question. Instead, she questioned the truthfulness of President Obama -- saying he has misled the public about the federal stimulus and the health care law.
"President Obama gave us the opposite information," Bachmann said. "That's where the fact-checking needs to be held, because President Obama needs to be held accountable for not telling the American people about all of the failures that have come along."

Bachmann then went on to repeat her earlier misstatements.

If Bachmann makes a run for the presidency, she is sure to step up her media appearances and speaking engagement -- which would invite additional scrutiny.

But that may not mean Bachmann will take more care with facts.

Norm Ornstein, a congressional scholar with the American Enterprise Institute, said politicians have become increasingly dismissive of facts.

"Respect for facts just doesn't mean a whole lot any more," Ornstein said. "You don't get punished. You don't get shamed if you say things that are patently false. Let's face it: for many, repeating them over and over again -- even after you've been told and it's been made clear that what you say is false -- just doesn't have any impact at all."

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