Time to build the bridge over state's fiscal chasm - Hawaii Edi...

How many more steps can Hawaii's leaders take before they fall off a cliff? This week the news from the state's bean counters was simple: There are no more beans.

[satch7]

Why not run an editorial about legalizing some form of gambling or an editorial about having the gambling referendum on the ballot? I am tired of listening to all these moral hypocritical idiots that are against gambling and then we have taxes, more taxes raised to the point where there will be a rebellion or there won't be any more monies to be taxed. A lot of these religious clerics that thou protest against gambling should have their status changed where they now can be taxed and lets see them continue their protests against gambling. WHY NOT A REFERENDUM ON GAMBLING AND LET THE PUBLIC VOTE?

[nope]

time to cut the southern california suburbia madness

let's have real sustainable development --- affordable housing that coexists with local agriculture and alternative energy

refocus UH West Oahu so that it is on the cutting edge of alternative energy development and sustainable agriculture all coexisting in a new suburban core

and provide tax credits for alternative energy developers and small-scale agriculture that fits into a new UH West Oahu plan

and let's not be afraid to look to europe and asia to find examples of people who are able to live on a smaller scale and with a much smaller footprint

and this planning can all be done without expensive committees or marketing shibai --- the legislature just needs to do its job

[Kalli]

Liberals always want to make is personal that someone will lose a job or the state will have to cut services. How about me the taxpayer that uses no special state services, what would you like me to cut? Cut my food, I'm not a big extravagant eater and rarely go out to eat except once in awhile to L&L. Cut my entertainment expenses, all I do is watch t.v. and an occasional blockbuster movie. Cut my electricity, how will I power my refridgerator and t.v. Cut my water, I have to go to the toilet and take a shower. We need to look at where the $700 Million surplus went just 2 years ago and cut back everything it went to so we are back to square one.

[hmmmm]

Kalli wrote:

Liberals always want to make is personal that someone will lose a job or the state will have to cut services. How about me the taxpayer that uses no special state services, what would you like me to cut? Cut my food, I'm not a big extravagant eater and rarely go out to eat except once in awhile to L&L. Cut my entertainment expenses, all I do is watch t.v. and an occasional blockbuster movie. Cut my electricity, how will I power my refridgerator and t.v. Cut my water, I have to go to the toilet and take a shower. We need to look at where the $700 Million surplus went just 2 years ago and cut back everything it went to so we are back to square one.

nice thought --- but you can't go back to square one
baby after baby after baby have been born in that time
--- born to a mommy with no job
--- born to a daddy cruisin in that punk excuse for a car --- also with no job
born with defects and limitations that may cost hundreds of thousands of dollars

and born in a system that requires you to pay ridiculous amounts of money to service providers to give baby a chance --- and if the service providers don't succeed (which in most cases they won't)--- baby will never get a job and just make more babies
and you will have to keep paying for other peoples babies

you see, you just can't ever go back to square one

[swannie]

Oh yeah, I can just see the current batch of elected thieves managing gambling casinos.

If they raise taxes, I hope voters would have the good sense to send the entire batch of worse than useless politicians to the unemployment office.

[Manoa Fisherman]

Look at all the businesses that have had to fire employees and close down with the economy in a down turn for the last 8 years from 2001. The Lingle Administration has not a clue of what is going on in the economy. The Legislature is just at clueless.

If you want to take a look at a "basic" goverment size? Look to the 1986 budget by Governor Ariyoshi, before Waihee and Cayetano screwed up the State budget after him.

[bumpercrop]

The state is building a bridge over the monetary crisis.... Only they are using our wallets.

[Poi]

Hawaii has been a joke ever since the Plantation Asian Democrat monopoly kicked into full gear in the 70s.

At least in the 50s, 60s and 70s the Haoles still had control over all the big jobs in Pineapple and Sugar. That was an opposing force to the Asian politicians.

As Sugar and Pine died and other industries like sugar rose, the Plantation Asian Democrats simply absorbed all power.

Hawaii has become a fake economy whose main purpose is to support the HGEA, DOE, Trade Unions and now the Royal Hawaiian Band. All dominated by Plantation Asian immigrants.

Sooner or later going bust. Maybe sooner.

[alice]

Hawaii lacks business or poltiical leadership. Lingle and Mufi are a pathetic duo.

[Waimea cowboy]

The reality is that folks don't understand how the economy works, and this editor certainly is one of them.

Our leaders need to stop penalizing businesses, so that they can grow and create jobs for the workers who are laid off. For decades we have been the laughing stock of the United States as the nation's most anti-business State. Even so, Hawaii leaders and media slumber on. When we awake it will be a rude awakening!

Imua!

[lee smith]

The only thing wrong with Hawaii is it`s politicians. What we the people should do is vote them all out of office and start over with a new and different bunch. Nobody could do as bad of a job as this present bunch. This will never happen because we have to many people who vote like sheep !!! So, things won`t change.

[gramps]

The more people Lingle lays off, the bigger her paycheck when she goes to a Washington DC area law firm/PR firm/think tank after she is done with Hawaii. Our spineless legislature can then focus on taxing the rest of us to death. What a crew of losers we have!

[Kamaaina]

Poi wrote:

Hawaii has been a joke ever since the Plantation Asian Democrat monopoly kicked into full gear in the 70s.
At least in the 50s, 60s and 70s the Haoles still had control over all the big jobs in Pineapple and Sugar. That was an opposing force to the Asian politicians.
As Sugar and Pine died and other industries like sugar rose, the Plantation Asian Democrats simply absorbed all power.
Hawaii has become a fake economy whose main purpose is to support the HGEA, DOE, Trade Unions and now the Royal Hawaiian Band. All dominated by Plantation Asian immigrants.
Sooner or later going bust. Maybe sooner.

I'm glad that you live in Californy and not Hawaii. You are an example of the rascist know-nothing that Hawaii does not need.
You should read books like "Hawaii Pono" by Lawrence Fuchs and Tom Coffman's latest book to learn about how "Plantation Asian Democrats" made Hawaii a better place that the place dominated b your "Haole dominated sugar and pineapple companies".
BTW I am not Asian.

[CWD]

Legalized gambling can take many forms and not all of them need to be allowed here in Hawai`i: lotteries, bingo, raffles, horse-racing, dog-racing, slot machines, casinos, off-track betting & sports betting establishments - there are lots of options here.

The idea that somehow the government should tell us how to behave when we do not infringe on other people - with whom we have relationships, how we spend our money, and what we do with our bodies - really bothers me. However, the anti-gambling folks feel that they are keeping us safe from the world's evils.

An estimated $150 million leaves Hawai`i for Las Vegas every year. Why not keep some of that here supporting local businesses who will then pay taxes to provide a variety of services.

We also have nearly seven million people visit Hawai`i. How many would gamble and what the income would be is pure speculation at this point. But why not try it?

[poi]

gambling won't work because the plantaion asian democrats wouldn't be able to keep it all to themselves

[wendell]

Kamaaina wrote:

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I'm glad that you live in Californy and not Hawaii. You are an example of the rascist know-nothing that Hawaii does not need.

You should read books like "Hawaii Pono" by Lawrence Fuchs and Tom Coffman's latest book to learn about how "Plantation Asian Democrats" made Hawaii a better place that the place dominated b your "Haole dominated sugar and pineapple companies".
BTW I am not Asian.

Although in a less than delicate way, he does make some good points. The AJA community in the 60s and 70s were an insular group. I think it was a feeling of seige from the effects of WWII back then that pushed them to keep to themselves. The success of the 100/442 opened them up, but no haole wanted them then, except for Jack Burns.

[realist]

You miss the education point (among others). Our most "concerned" educators (BOE, DOE, and HSTA) decided to cut education days instead of overhead, repairs, holidays, teacher training days, or non instructional days. So, how do you like them apples? If our most "concerned" folk cut the basics of education (class room teaching) to protect their other perogitives; well, we are all getting what we deserve. As for the Legislature and Oshiro; talk to Sakamoto about his poor education oversight and implementation of Act 51. What a bunch of phonies.

[Poi]

poi wrote:

gambling won't work because the plantaion asian democrats wouldn't be able to keep it all to themselves

True Poi

[arm]

congress should be helping the states more with their deficits and helping businesses more as well by subsidizing employees that have had their hours cut...like Germany's doing...

[Poi]

wendell wrote:

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Although in a less than delicate way, he does make some good points. The AJA community in the 60s and 70s were an insular group. I think it was a feeling of seige from the effects of WWII back then that pushed them to keep to themselves. The success of the 100/442 opened them up, but no haole wanted them then, except for Jack Burns.

Nope.

Nice try to find a PC excuse like WWII prejudice to justify the Plantation Asian, specifically AJA "insular" ways. "Insular" would be called "Racist" if talking about other skin colors.

But Japanese were "insular" before WWII and even before WWI. They didn't build dozens of schools for nothing. They built their own Japanese schools because they wanted their children to learn their language and their culture and to return to their homeland.

I knew MANY japanese obachan who in the 70s and 80s and 90s SPOKE NO ENGLISH and SPOKE NO HAWAIIAN. They only spoke Japanese. They lived in Hawaii for 50 to 70 years at that time but never lowered themselves to learn ANY English or Hawaiians.

So no, it wasn't WWII prejudice. It just is what it is. It was what it was.

I'm sure you don't look for some sorry excuse for the Plantation Haole of the late 1800s and early 1900s only hiring Haole etc, do you? Why don't you find a sob story to justify their racism?

Racism is racism.

Hawaii's history includes white haole and yellow haole racist controllers. No difference between the 2.