What the 2012 election taught us

Nov 6, 2012 Full story: The Washington Post 10,324

We've been scouring the data for clues as to what we should learn from what happened tonight as President Obama relatively easily claimed a second term.

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Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#3043 Nov 23, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
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This country "those with a financial advantage free reign to deprive others?" Really?
Your source for this, um, bold claim? Maybe some examples of this deprivation?
First of all... It was a facetious statement aimed at the mentality of a certain group who have a tendency to believe they represent to majority.

As far as the "those with a financial advantage free reign to deprive others" part goes... I would say the financial sector debacles that culminated in '08 are a good example of people using their financial leverage to take advantage and thus deprive people. They may not have set out with the express goal of depriving people per se, but anybody with any amount of logic could have foreseen that the result would have been just that. Other examples of useless lazy rich people depriving others would be the numerous people that game the market for profit... eg: energy companies, spot market investors who deliberately buy large quantities of oil and sit on it to drive prices up so they can cash in. You might call that "capitalism", but it is based on neither hard work, nor ingenuity... the two supposed "bedrocks" of our so-called "free enterprise" system.

“Liberal Teachers ruin Kids”

Since: Mar 09

Paradise Valley Arizona

#3044 Nov 23, 2012
VN Vet wrote:
<quoted text>I was a union member for 30 years, it did some good, and some bad. There is a place for unions, but not in the public sector. I got out of the union when THEY started screwing me and my fellow workers. The unions of today are run by the crime families and only want more and more power at the expense of the country and the people. Think of Hostess. Power corrupts, and total power corrupts totally. Look at Obama.
Amen Bro

Since: Aug 11

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#3045 Nov 23, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
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More like no one cares. Capitalism (under many names) and corporations have been around for centuries.
Remember your orders, komrade! Move on! Forward! LOL
LMAO!!!
Some Random Dude

Santa Cruz, CA

#3046 Nov 23, 2012
VN Vet wrote:
<quoted text>I was a union member for 30 years, it did some good, and some bad. There is a place for unions, but not in the public sector. I got out of the union when THEY started screwing me and my fellow workers. The unions of today are run by the crime families and only want more and more power at the expense of the country and the people. Think of Hostess. Power corrupts, and total power corrupts totally. Look at Obama.
Obama's definitely not as corrupt as that son of a wrinkled, prune-faced bitch that came before him. And I won't even get into Cheney... I don't understand why one of his heart attacks hasn't killed that waste of flesh yet. God obviously can't stand Cheney and is itching to to send him to hell; but fortunately for him, he's got enough cash to get the best medical treatment available.

As far as unions go... you're right. They've gone way too far. They need to be put in check. Not abolished... just seriously put in check.

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#3047 Nov 23, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
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More like no one cares. Capitalism (under many names) and corporations have been around for centuries.
Remember your orders, komrade! Move on! Forward! LOL
no one does under our Current form of Socialism here in the US because they know the Federal Government will be there to provide with my Tax money just like the Federal Government did with Wallstreet thourgh TARP and people on the entitlement system and that is government involvement which Capitalism rejects it and keep dreaming calling Socialism Captialism.

Since: Aug 11

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#3048 Nov 23, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! I know son.
Cons like to more backwards!
their proving to be useful Idiots and not helping their case because they have no understanding of Ecomomical systems and how they work but I blame education for teaching the Useful Idiots to accept Socialism as Capitalism and they would make Lenin proud.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#3049 Nov 23, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>their proving to be useful Idiots and not helping their case because they have no understanding of Ecomomical systems and how they work but I blame education for teaching the Useful Idiots to accept Socialism as Capitalism and they would make Lenin proud.
That's not the education system, these mopes throw around catch phases and words they heard. They are adopting portions of ideas they hear their conservative shrills rattle off. Without a thorough understanding they try to fit the slang in mythical narratives.
amendment 28

Independence, KS

#3050 Nov 23, 2012
The Victoria Jackson Show.

&#8206;"MR. PRESIDENT, WILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY GIVE UP YOUR CURRENT HEALTH CARE PROGRAM AND JOIN THE NEW 'UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE PROGRAM' THAT THE REST OF US WILL BE
ON ????"
THERE WAS A STONEY SILENCE AS OBAMA IGNORED THE QUESTION AND CHOSE NOT TO ANSWER IT !!!
IN ADDITION, A NUMBER OF SENATORS WERE ASKED THE SAME QUESTION AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS, "WE WILL THINK ABOUT IT."
AND THEY DID. IT WAS ANNOUNCED TODAY ON THE NEWS THAT THE "KENNEDY HEALTH CARE BILL" WAS WRITTEN INTO THE NEW HEALTH CARE REFORM INITIATIVE ENSURING THAT CONGRESS WILL BE 100% EXEMPT !
SO, THIS GREAT NEW HEALTH CARE PLAN THAT IS GOOD FOR YOU AND ME... IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR OBAMA, HIS FAMILY OR CONGRESS...??(page 114 line 22)
WE (THE AMERICAN PUBLIC) NEED TO STOP THIS PROPOSED DEBACLE ASAP !!!! THIS IS TOTALLY WRONG !!!!!
PERSONALLY, I CAN ONLY ACCEPT A UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE OVERHAUL THAT EXTENDS TO EVERYONE... NOT JUST US LOWLY CITIZENS.... WHILE THE WASHINGTON "ELITE" KEEP RIGHT ON WITH THEIR GOLD-PLATED HEALTH CARE COVERAGES.

WHAT???
The Republic has a CONSTITUTION???

Amendment 28

Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators or Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States.

Again the prez and his administration has shown a complete lack of respect of our Constitutional rights! All the 2012 election taught me is that we have a dictator for a government system that plays the 'All for me and fuck you' game.

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#3051 Nov 23, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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That's not the education system, these mopes throw around catch phases and words they heard. They are adopting portions of ideas they hear their conservative shrills rattle off. Without a thorough understanding they try to fit the slang in mythical narratives.
I hate to say it is a reflection of the US educational system to believe things like Social Security is Capitalism.

“have seen the years,”

Since: Mar 10

and the slow parade of fears"

#3052 Nov 24, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
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This country "those with a financial advantage free reign to deprive others?" Really?
Your source for this, um, bold claim? Maybe some examples of this deprivation?
Oh, please. Haven't you people learned anything at all from the clobbering you received in the election. The people have spoken and money doesn't anymore, at least not like it used to. Money was one of the things that lost this election. Good Americans all over the country stood up and said "NO MORE" and pretty much caused many a million to go to waste when fighting back by getting out the vote. The people took over and made their voices heard and votes count and it was truly a beautiful thing to behold.
Brad

Manchester, CT

#3053 Nov 24, 2012
Doctor My Eyes wrote:
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Oh, please. Haven't you people learned anything at all from the clobbering you received in the election. The people have spoken and money doesn't anymore, at least not like it used to. Money was one of the things that lost this election. Good Americans all over the country stood up and said "NO MORE" and pretty much caused many a million to go to waste when fighting back by getting out the vote. The people took over and made their voices heard and votes count and it was truly a beautiful thing to behold.
Money doesn't speak but Oblamer will have added 7 trillion to our debt by the end of his first term.
For the month before the election he will have run a 120 billion dollar deficit and his vacation to India cost what,a mere 200 million a day.
A beautiful thing to behold indeed.

Since: Oct 12

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#3054 Nov 24, 2012
Hates Ignorance wrote:
Indy,
MOST people know only what their ideologic leaders tell them. They lack the intellectual curiosity & ambition to seek their own knowledge, and understanding.
..If you just don't watch Fox at all, you should be okay....
cjrian

Denver, CO

#3055 Nov 24, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
..If you just don't watch Fox at all, you should be okay....
As opposed to?
MSDNC?
Nothin' but Barrak Channel?
All Barrak Channel?

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

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#3056 Nov 24, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
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LOL..."GOP types"?
Your claim that "The GOP want the rich to be rich and the rest of us to be slaves" proves yet again you're a slave to leftist propaganda.
My post is 100% correct. Stop shipping jobs to COMMIE china and bring them back. Then we can end welfare.SIMPLE MORON.

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

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#3057 Nov 24, 2012
Vance1 wrote:
Hostess Bakery is a prime example. of Union corruption.
18,000 people lose their jobs because of idiot union leaders
FOR TEN YEARS THE CEO AND FRONT OFFICE WORKERS ALL SEEN 300% RAISESAS AND BIG BONUSES....IN THAT SAME TIME TH UNION GAVE TWO PAY CUTS.....Now they dont want to take another pay cut so the front office can get a raise again...YOUR EVIL THINKING THAT IS OK...

Since: Oct 12

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#3058 Nov 24, 2012
cjrian wrote:
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As opposed to?
MSDNC?
Nothin' but Barrak Channel?
All Barrak Channel?
Lucky You...It'll be playing for..FOUR MORE YEARS...

Since: Nov 12

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#3059 Nov 24, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
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My post is 100% correct. Stop shipping jobs to COMMIE china and bring them back. Then we can end welfare.SIMPLE MORON.
LOL! Your post is 100% incorrect.

First of all, if you're so worried about jobs, you should be ripping Obama for his proposed cuts to defense spending which will result in countless layoffs in the industry.

Secondly, if you're suggesting that if we 'brought back' these jobs it would "end welfare", you've forgotten that the Obama administration has made it easy to live comfortably while sitting on your as*.

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

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#3060 Nov 24, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
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LOL! Your post is 100% incorrect.
First of all, if you're so worried about jobs, you should be ripping Obama for his proposed cuts to defense spending which will result in countless layoffs in the industry.
Secondly, if you're suggesting that if we 'brought back' these jobs it would "end welfare", you've forgotten that the Obama administration has made it easy to live comfortably while sitting on your as*.
Funny how you GOP slime call for spending cuts. But if you say lets cut some military waste or cut law enforcement waste you FREAK OUT AND SCREAM..... OBAMA HAS DONE NO SUCH THING......Whos trickle down BS and who forced Clinton to sign NAFTA......OH YEA THE GOP....

Since: Nov 12

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#3061 Nov 24, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
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FOR TEN YEARS THE CEO AND FRONT OFFICE WORKERS ALL SEEN 300% RAISESAS AND BIG BONUSES....IN THAT SAME TIME TH UNION GAVE TWO PAY CUTS.....Now they dont want to take another pay cut so the front office can get a raise again...YOUR EVIL THINKING THAT IS OK...
Hostess already had filed for bankruptcy (Chapter 11) in 2004.

Why, you may ask? Debt and pension obligations, costly labor rules, and declining sales.

The union was/is as guilty as anyone or anything else for the demise of the Twinkie.

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

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#3062 Nov 24, 2012
La Santa Muerte wrote:
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Hostess already had filed for bankruptcy (Chapter 11) in 2004.
Why, you may ask? Debt and pension obligations, costly labor rules, and declining sales.
The union was/is as guilty as anyone or anything else for the demise of the Twinkie.
Yes hen after they filled teh front office in next 8 years all got 300% raises....all why the workers took pay cuts.....BUT OH YES BLAME THE WORKERS HUH MORON....THE UNION ISNOT TO BLAME FOR LAST TEN EYARS THEY AGREED TO TWO PAY CUTS ALL WHY THE FORNT OFFICE GOT HUGE 300% RAISES.........SHUT UP AND STOP BLAMING THE WORKERS MORON.....

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