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There are 56 comments on the South Florida Sun-Sentinel story from Jun 5, 2009, titled Pain doctors: Florida medical board gets tough on 3 South Flori.... In it, South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that:

State medical regulators, who may soon get new powers to rein in rogue pain clinics, today leveled stricter than usual penalties against three South Florida doctors found to have doled out narcotic painkillers excessively or improperly.

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“Pray for the Children”

Since: Nov 08

United States

#46 Jul 2, 2009
just to let ya'll know it is just as bad here in Arizona. all the doctors want to do is push pills.
I had a dentist last week try to convince me i needed pain killers after getting a tooth pulled. 3 times I told him NO! he said "i'll write it for 800mg. of something" I asked him if he was trying to kill me. No wander so many people are hooked on drugs.

Since: Jan 09

United States

#47 Jul 3, 2009
Walk In Their Shoes wrote:
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People that do not have chronic pain, will never understand what life is like living in that condition. Throwing out 'go to detox' is a very illiterate thought.
Just ask someone with chronic migraines.
First, if the Dr's will not prescribe enough, you are not addicted. Addiction fuels a continual increase. Most Dr.s do not and will not prescribe enough out the gate. They are in fear of the DEA smashing down their doors and revoking their license to practice. The DEA (gov) Drug Czar sets the amount to prescribe. It is not based scientifically but arbitrarily, of what they THINK you will need, which is always way less than a person needs. Many Dr's strongly disagree with the 'guidelines' because they cannot correctly treat their real chronic pain patients.
And flippantly saying go to detox accomplishes what? The pain is real and still there. Not using enough pain meds doesn't cause pain or addiction it hinders the relief.
Pain management doesn't exist. One can live with pain and endure a miserable life; no one can 'manage pain' as if mind over matter will accomplish anything.
Because some fools are criminal in their behavior regarding pain meds, doesn't mean restriction and rationing are a logical alternative to those who really do need it.
A portion of RX drugs will always make it to the streets no matter what. Punishing the legit users is just plain nuts.
People use the same argument regarding administering morphine to cancer and other chronic pain patients also..."they'll get addicted".
If those same people spent just one day in severe chronic pain, they'd be on the floor crying like a baby begging for relief.
Very well said. I take oxycontin for chronic pain, and I have no clue why anyone would be addicted to them...does nothing for me but help make my life manageable on a daily basis.
One of the pain clinics I went to, doctor said to me "you won't die from chronic pain".
No, I won't die from chronic pain but I wish I would without meds. Yet, he proceeded to want to put me on other meds in addition to doubling the dosages of my current ones. I never went back. I wanted to live life not be comatose.
Problem with the legit doctors is that if anyone of their patients gets caught with it, they are notified and it goes on their records. So, they try to push you onto these "pain" clinics.
Somedays, I get so angry. I know there are meds out there that can help me live a good full life but because of govt interference I am limited. Addicts will always be here, it's not right to withhold the medications from the legit pain sufferers because of them.
GREEN EYES

Broken Arrow, OK

#48 Jul 6, 2009
Bill wrote:
Jail the doctors before they kee
p killing.
Bill, you are not very educated with the war on drugs. yes, the dr.'s write the meds, but the patient is the one who swallows, snorts, or bangs it. I for one, DO NOT blame the dr.'s. Yes, some write way too many, but that does not mean you have to consume them all in a weeks time. Those kind of ppl are out there looking to get a buzz or are selling their meds. some dr.'s are all about the money, BUT STILL, THE PT NEEDS TO TAKE IT THE RIGHT WAY. just remember BILL, DOCTOR'S WRITE SCRIPTS, THE PATIENT IS IN CONTROL AFTER THAT. THE PATIENT IS ALWAYS ASKED AT THE PHARMACY, "DO YOU NEED ANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED ABOUT YOUR MEDICATIONS?" I never consume every pain pill I receive every month. A person in chronic pain takes as needed and then sometimes wait till the pain gets worse, just to make sure they have enough to last till next appointment. DOCTOR'S DO NOT KILL

“Pray for the Children”

Since: Nov 08

United States

#49 Jul 12, 2009
GREEN EYES wrote:
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Bill, you are not very educated with the war on drugs. yes, the dr.'s write the meds, but the patient is the one who swallows, snorts, or bangs it. I for one, DO NOT blame the dr.'s. Yes, some write way too many, but that does not mean you have to consume them all in a weeks time. Those kind of ppl are out there looking to get a buzz or are selling their meds. some dr.'s are all about the money, BUT STILL, THE PT NEEDS TO TAKE IT THE RIGHT WAY. just remember BILL, DOCTOR'S WRITE SCRIPTS, THE PATIENT IS IN CONTROL AFTER THAT. THE PATIENT IS ALWAYS ASKED AT THE PHARMACY, "DO YOU NEED ANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED ABOUT YOUR MEDICATIONS?" I never consume every pain pill I receive every month. A person in chronic pain takes as needed and then sometimes wait till the pain gets worse, just to make sure they have enough to last till next appointment. DOCTOR'S DO NOT KILL
I agree with what you are saying, But when it comes to the elderly... They do what the pill bottle and doctor tell them. they are following the doctors orders.
legit patient

Danville, KY

#50 Jul 13, 2009
I just moved here and I have had 3 surgeries to replace a crushed shoulder.With all the problems in South Florida lately I can't find a Dr to treat me.I need to find someone to help me with my problem, would someone pleaase be willing to point me in the right direction.I cant continue to work and fight this problem every day.Is there a place where I can find a list of Dr's who would possibly treat me?I haave stacks of legit records as well as MRI's.Please point me in the right direction.
GREEN EYES

Ashland, KY

#51 Jul 13, 2009
hi legit, it will be hard for anyone to mention a dr. on this thread..go to publix and get the free ad papers. there are numerous dr. in the ad's..just be careful with your choice. try and find a good dr. who takes insurance, if you have it. good luck and be careful
legit patient

Danville, KY

#52 Jul 14, 2009
I was asking where I could find help finding a Dr. to treat me as I just moved tothe area.I have had several surgeries and have stacks of records and MRI reports.Green Eyes said it would be hard to get someone to lead me to a descent Dr.He mentioned something called publix and said to get the free ad papers.Could someone tell me what publix is?Is it an internet site or what?I would
appreciate some assistance from someone who knows what this is.Thanks!
GREEN EYES

Broken Arrow, OK

#53 Jul 14, 2009
HELLO, I AM SORRY NOT TO HAVE CLARIFIED MY POST..PUBLIX'S IS A GROCERY STORE AND THEY HAVE AD PAPERS, that r usually free and have entertainment and ads for pain clinics..also call pharmacy and ask about a good one. drive main roads and just look. they r everywhere..too bad!!! but good for us legit patients.. if you have insurance, you may luck out and find one, but it is unusual. good luck
Fabioso

Tallahassee, FL

#54 Jul 14, 2009
livinginpain wrote:
I feel bad that there are people out there that make it impossible for someone living in pain to recieve adequate pain control.You have a very few Dr.s that will prescripe any type of pain medication, beleieve me I know, I have been living with chronic pain for 14 yrs. with no end in sight, unfortunately due to the few who abuse pain medication people that need it can't get it SAD SAD WORLD
I feel your pain, literally.

I used to prosecute for the Board of Medicine and there was a sort of anti-drug mindset there dating back to the late 80's.

I saw MANY cases of physicians overprescribing narcotics, and pretty much all of them were pain clinics in south or central Florida. But I also saw a lot of docs get into trouble because they were being second-guessed by people who didn't know the patient.

Having a chronic pain issue myself (and no pills at all), I have a new perspective on this. Sometimes I am in severe pain and OTC meds will not stop it. But I cannot get proper pain meds, not because of anything having to do with me (I'm very low-risk), but because the doctors are scared to prescribe - even to people who really need it.

Since: Jul 09

Gainesville, GA

#55 Jul 16, 2009
Well I can say that i live in ga and the doctors here suck...i mean if you are in pain well you are screwed..i have a friend who lives with pain for over ten years..i have never dont drugs...looked down on people who did etc etc...but i have learned in my stupidity that chronic pain is REAL..and drug dealer are after money...but if you can get help from a doctor than do what you must...its hard to live a normal life when you cant walk...shake someones hand...do anything that you stupid people who sit back and throw off on someone who cant...what would you do right now if all of a sudden you lost use of a limb and people stared at you??? or talked about you behind you back and felt sorry for you??? If a pain made it possible for you to be normal and be happy then shut the hell up and leave people alone that are trying to live the life you have..its nothing to you what they do...are the putting a pill in your mouth?? is it money out of your pocket? not its not....so yea if someone know of any drs. let me know also...i agree with legit doctors also ...but them people who sit on a soap box and have no real idea what they are talking about because they have never experienced it .....you need to just shut up....

Since: Jul 09

Gainesville, GA

#56 Jul 16, 2009
Meizinnia wrote:
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Very well said. I take oxycontin for chronic pain, and I have no clue why anyone would be addicted to them...does nothing for me but help make my life manageable on a daily basis.
One of the pain clinics I went to, doctor said to me "you won't die from chronic pain".
No, I won't die from chronic pain but I wish I would without meds. Yet, he proceeded to want to put me on other meds in addition to doubling the dosages of my current ones. I never went back. I wanted to live life not be comatose.
Problem with the legit doctors is that if anyone of their patients gets caught with it, they are notified and it goes on their records. So, they try to push you onto these "pain" clinics.
Somedays, I get so angry. I know there are meds out there that can help me live a good full life but because of govt interference I am limited. Addicts will always be here, it's not right to withhold the medications from the legit pain sufferers because of them.
......i agree ...hard to get addicted to something that the doctors dont give you enought of....not even enough to live a normal life....i am in ga..it worse here and i am next to florida...i would head that way if i had any clue exactly where to even start
TomK

Jacksonville, FL

#57 Mar 28, 2010
HEY BUD FOT NEWS FOR YOU THE DOCTORS ARENT KILLING THE DUMB ASS THE CANT READ OR CHOSE TO TAKE 10X'S MORE THAN THE LABEL SAY TO ARE THE DUMBS THAT ARE KILLING THEM SELVES! GOT IT LET ME MAKE IT EASY FOR ALL YOU THAT THINK ITS THAT dR'S FAULT YOU WAIT WAIT I GET OXYCODONE 30'S QTY 480 THE LABEL SAYS TAKE UP TO 2 EVERY 2 HOURS IF NEEDED I DAMN SURE DIDNT START OUT THAT HIGH IT HAYS TAKEN 12 YEARS TO GET THERE. AND OH YA BY THE WAY i HAVE BEEN ON THAT DOSE FOR 3 1/2 YEARS THE GOOD NEWS IS IAM FU$#ED THE BAD NEWS IS THATS ALL THEY CAN DO IS KEEP UP ME. I DONT WANT THE DAMN PILLS I WANT A SURGEN WHO CAN FIND OUT SOMETHING NEW TO TRY TO STOP MY BACK PAIN SHORT OF CUTTING MY HEAD OFF AND STICKING IT ON MY ASS WHERE MY BACK WAS SO HEY I AM SORRY FOR BIENG A BUT HEAD I HAVE HAD IT WITH EVERY ONE OUT THERE OVER DOSING AND HEY LETS BLAME THE DOCTORS BECAUSE MY DUMB ASS CHILD TOOK ALOT MORE THAN MR DR MAN TOLD THEM TO SO IT HAS TO BE THE DR'S FAULT BECAUSE HE NOR MOM OR DAD COULD TELL AT THAT TIME OR ANYTIME UNTIL THEY ARE THAT THEIR SON OR DAUGHTER WAS A DAMN PILL HEAD SO OH DONT BE SO FAST TO BLAME ALL THE PAIN MANAGEMENT DOCTORS OUT THERE OUT OF 100 YES I AM SORRY TO SAY THAT MAYBE 5% AND THAT MIGHT BE HIGH OR LOW THAT SHOULD BE IN JAIL BUT THE OTHER 95% OR DOING THEIR JOB AND THE DAMN DEA NEEDS TO REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE THE COPS! THEY DIDNT GO TO SCHOOL FOR 12 YEARS TO BECOME A DOCTOR HAVE OF THE DEA HAS AN IQ LOWER THAN THE #2 PENCILE THAT YOU USED IN HIGH SCHOOL TO FIND OUT ALL YOU CAN DO IS CARRY A GUN PLAY COP BUT EVEN MORE FUN WE'LL PLAY DOCTOR TODAY AND SAY THATHEY LISTEN YOU THAT ANYONE PERSON IN THE WORLD COULD NEED FOR THE WORST PAIN IN THE WORLD IS 180 OXYCODONE 30'S A MONTH BUT PUT THEM IN MY PLACE OR SOME OTHERS PLACE AND LETS SEE OH YA BUY THE WAY DID I TELL YOU THAT I WAS A FIRE FIGHTER FOR 6 YEARS BEFORE WE GOT A CALL OF A 5 STORY BUILDING WAS ON FIRE WITH 2 TRAPPED INSIDE SO WHEN MY 6 MAN ENG. COMPANY GOT THERE 5 OF US DID OR JOB AND WHEN IN TO RESUCE 2 OF MY MEN GOT THE TRAPPED AS THE ME AND THE OTHER 3 WERE HEAD OUT THE BUILDING CAME DOWN ON US TRAPPED UNDER THE BUILDING FOR A DAY AND A HALF THEY DID GET ALL 4 OF US OUT 2 WERE DIED RIGHT A WAY THE OTHER JAMES DAVIS DIED 2 DAYS LATER IN THE TRUMA CENTER I WAS THE LUCKEY GUY THAT SPENT THE NEXT 8 MONTHS IN AND OUT OF THIS KIND OF HOSP OR THAT KIND OR THIS PLACE OR THAT PLACE SURGERY AFTER SURGERY AND THEN HEARING HEY YOU WILL SPEND THE REST OF YOUR LIFE ON EVERY PAIN KILLER KNOWN TO MANKIND OH YA ALSO MY WIFE OF 8 YEARS SAID TO ME THAT WHAT KIND OF HUSBAND OR FATHER COULD I BE SITTING IN A WHELL CHAIR THE REST OF HIS LIFE IF YOU WHAT TO CALL IT LIFE BY THE WAY I AM NOT IN THE WHELL CHAIR ANYMORE HAVENT SEEN MY KIDS IN 6 YEARS SO HEY I AM SORRY IF I DONT SEE IT YOU DAMN WAY IF ALL THE DAMN PILL HEADS OUT THERE WOULD TAKE THEIR MEDS THE WAY THE LABEL SAYS THEY WOULD NOT BE DEAD SO "STOP BALMING THE DOCTORS" AND TO THE DEA IF THE DOCTORS ARENT SELLING SCRIPTS LEAVE THEM THE HELL ALONE AND BUST THE STREET JUNKIES WHEN YOU DO FIND THE DR. SELLING HIS SCRIPTS THEN YOU BUST THE DR'S SO I HOPE I HAVE OPEN SOME EYE'S AND IF I DIDNT TO BAD GET OVER KEEP AND I ON YOUR FAMILY THATS POPING THE PILLS AND YOU KNOW THET ARE OTHER WISE YOU WOULD BE HERE CRAPING ON PAIN DR'S SO AGAIN KEEP AN I ON YOUR FAMILY MEMBER TO SEE IF THE ARE A JUNKY I BET THEY ARE
Take Two

Altamonte Springs, FL

#58 Mar 29, 2010
Meizinnia wrote:
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Very well said. I take oxycontin for chronic pain, and I have no clue why anyone would be addicted to them...does nothing for me but help make my life manageable on a daily basis.
One of the pain clinics I went to, doctor said to me "you won't die from chronic pain".
No, I won't die from chronic pain but I wish I would without meds. Yet, he proceeded to want to put me on other meds in addition to doubling the dosages of my current ones. I never went back. I wanted to live life not be comatose.
Problem with the legit doctors is that if anyone of their patients gets caught with it, they are notified and it goes on their records. So, they try to push you onto these "pain" clinics.
Somedays, I get so angry. I know there are meds out there that can help me live a good full life but because of govt interference I am limited. Addicts will always be here, it's not right to withhold the medications from the legit pain sufferers because of them.
Doesn't seem to affect your ability to sit at your keyboard and type.

Try physical therapy........oh, and stay off the computer, it's not only aggravating your condition but it's aggravating us.
LaTisch

United States

#59 Mar 30, 2010
you see, don't be knockin them pills cause they really do work for pain - my cousin gets them and eat some and sell some and let me tell you, they work.
Guest

Boynton Beach, FL

#60 Apr 22, 2010
All doctors are drug dealers. Find Jesus! Repent! Heal Yourselves!
lunar

Palm City, FL

#62 Oct 25, 2012
What a travesty to legitimate docs such as Dr Rabinsky. Top notch look it up. Top 25% at hospital he practiced prior. DEA WHO WATCHES THESE SOCIALISTS? THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT THAT.

GOD BLESS DOC AND STAFF DURING THESE HARD TIMES. I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND SUPPORT THE PAST 7 YEARS.

WITCHHUNT

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