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Saliane

Browns Summit, NC

#467 Nov 29, 2012
People who preach should practice their own "tenets".

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Aimee

San Antonio, TX

#468 Nov 29, 2012
Jaysucks wrote:
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My dear. as they say in NY, you aint got a clue. There's no difference in today, or 30 years ago. Most people never break bad habits. It is a shame to be so talented, and such a despicable person. Some say a leopard doesn't change its spots, I say it can, if it tries hard. Operative word, TRY.

And as some say in Shreveport, "well, then!" It is a shame but not a rare happening. The world is full of people, and a dear departed friend used to add to that "and I'm one of 'em." Yet another friend, and I'm sorry to say a departed one as well, frequently said "people are no damn good. They're the worst ones of all." If ever I should meet Jay in person, I will update my rating for him, but it seems highly unlikely that I will get that opportunity. It's better to err on the side of kindness. I am well protected against the kinds of experience some others have related, because I never loan money to friends, will not marry or commit again and have no reason to fear any other pitfalls or transgressions. For now, I intend to try to create a holiday mood all around me, lest I become a negative person. I'm already a bit cynical.

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Sudi

Dadeville, AL

#469 Nov 29, 2012
Aimee wrote:
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And as some say in Shreveport, "well, then!" It is a shame but not a rare happening. The world is full of people, and a dear departed friend used to add to that "and I'm one of 'em." Yet another friend, and I'm sorry to say a departed one as well, frequently said "people are no damn good. They're the worst ones of all." If ever I should meet Jay in person, I will update my rating for him, but it seems highly unlikely that I will get that opportunity. It's better to err on the side of kindness. I am well protected against the kinds of experience some others have related, because I never loan money to friends, will not marry or commit again and have no reason to fear any other pitfalls or transgressions. For now, I intend to try to create a holiday mood all around me, lest I become a negative person. I'm already a bit cynical.
Being a cynic is easy, today. There are too many creeps and dishonest folks out there.

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Aimee

San Antonio, TX

#470 Nov 30, 2012
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Being a cynic is easy, today. There are too many creeps and dishonest folks out there.
Sudi, you are so right. I am sometimes called a cynic, but I really believe I'm just a realist. There are a lot of bullies in the world, and they seem to be multiplying faster than gentler people. As Southerners we were raised to avoid being abrasive and to try to say nothing if it would make someone feel uncomfortable. There is an overabundance of people who take unfair advantage of that and say outrageous things. It gets old having to deal with them and yet be true to our raising. I have been forced to use stronger methods to deflect the verbal assaults on my very right to an opinion. On another forum I visit, a couple of people have stopped offering their valuable input because of people who won't be satisfied to state their opinions and then move on. It feels like being bullied when someone keeps harping on the already-stated difference of opinion. Once it has been noted and response has been made, there is no need to ride a dead horse. In speech class many decades ago, we debated, and it wasn't like the debates we see on tv these days. They aren't proper debates, they are arguments, and there is always a bullying participant. I think I might revise my style and limit my responses to two times on any given item.

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Jaysucks

Cape Coral, FL

#471 Nov 30, 2012
No one has asked, or implied anyone become negative, or cynical. You state your thoughts, and as an industry insider, I state mine, and I am not alone in my feelings and thoughts. If I were, he would be playing much more affluent venues now. funny how he remains silent, truth can hurt, doesn't it Jay. (incidentally, he reads these forms regularly, he loves the attention)

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Sudi

Dadeville, AL

#472 Nov 30, 2012
Jaysucks wrote:
No one has asked, or implied anyone become negative, or cynical. You state your thoughts, and as an industry insider, I state mine, and I am not alone in my feelings and thoughts. If I were, he would be playing much more affluent venues now. funny how he remains silent, truth can hurt, doesn't it Jay.(incidentally, he reads these forms regularly, he loves the attention)
I think the first mention of being cynical was Aimee referring to herself. I was referring to her and myself in the fact that it is easy for us, or people in general, to be cynical, given all the crap that's going on in the world. Creeps and dishonest folks lurk everywhere one turns. No one was referring to you. Gee Whiz!

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Sally

Browns Summit, NC

#473 Nov 30, 2012
Jaysucks wrote:
No one has asked, or implied anyone become negative, or cynical. You state your thoughts, and as an industry insider, I state mine, and I am not alone in my feelings and thoughts. If I were, he would be playing much more affluent venues now. funny how he remains silent, truth can hurt, doesn't it Jay.(incidentally, he reads these forms regularly, he loves the attention)
Truth can also much more easily be accepted if the person 'telling the truth' weren't afraid to use their real name.And I hope he IS enjoying the forums.

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Sudi

Dadeville, AL

#474 Nov 30, 2012
Sally and Aimee,

I know one of you mentioned that Sandy Deane's property was damaged by the super storm, Sandy. I was looking up JATA stuff and ended up with a link to their FB. It shows a pic of the boardwalk after the storm, and Sandy said he and his wife were o.k., which we have already heard.

It also had a "Happy Birthday, Jay", on Nov. 2nd, from a fan of theirs (ON THEIR FB PAGE!). You'd think fans would know by now. No offense, JATA, just thought you guys might want to fix that sometime. Apparently, she hasn't kept up with the history and thinks Jay Black is one of you.

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Aimee

San Antonio, TX

#475 Dec 2, 2012
Sudi wrote:
Sally and Aimee,
I know one of you mentioned that Sandy Deane's property was damaged by the super storm, Sandy. I was looking up JATA stuff and ended up with a link to their FB. It shows a pic of the boardwalk after the storm, and Sandy said he and his wife were o.k., which we have already heard.
It also had a "Happy Birthday, Jay", on Nov. 2nd, from a fan of theirs (ON THEIR FB PAGE!). You'd think fans would know by now. No offense, JATA, just thought you guys might want to fix that sometime. Apparently, she hasn't kept up with the history and thinks Jay Black is one of you.
Sudi, I don't recall anything about Sandy Deane's property being mentioned, but Kenny Vance lost his home. That news came from Joy, I believe.

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Sudi

Dadeville, AL

#476 Dec 2, 2012
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Sudi, I don't recall anything about Sandy Deane's property being mentioned, but Kenny Vance lost his home. That news came from Joy, I believe.
Damage and loss of homes is seems pretty bad and I'm so glad we haven't heard anything worse. No one knows how bad it is until he/she has to go through something like that. I hope all those folks can get their lives back together before long. It's looking like FEMA is dragging their ninnies like they did in NOLA, yet this is worse due to the winter season.

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Jaysucks

Cape Coral, FL

#477 Dec 2, 2012
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Truth can also much more easily be accepted if the person 'telling the truth' weren't afraid to use their real name.And I hope he IS enjoying the forums.
You ask for real names, how do we know your name is Sally? Sally what? No one uses their real names here, maybe a first name, but thats it. Why, read the newspapers. Does he read this, you bet he does, funny, h never comments. I suppose its hard to argue with fact.

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Aimee

San Antonio, TX

#478 Dec 2, 2012
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You ask for real names, how do we know your name is Sally? Sally what? No one uses their real names here, maybe a first name, but thats it. Why, read the newspapers. Does he read this, you bet he does, funny, h never comments. I suppose its hard to argue with fact.
Even a first name beats the aliases we see here. I think Sally has even put her name on here at some point. You or someone else, probably Bill White, recently used my first and last name, and not even in a nice way. It's no wonder we hesitate, but at least we aren't totally obscure or deceptive with our REAL names that we use here. I am aware that it presents risks, and am a little uncomfortable about certain people abusing the info, but I am mean enough to charge hell with a bucket of water if someone sets off my righteous indignation. At one time, I thought you might be someone who wouldn't misuse or abuse, but have given up on that. By the way, I am not Amy. Not nearly as sweet as "Amy" seems to lead one to believe. Sally got it right the first time after I told her how to address me, and I was so thrilled! As I've said before, it takes so little to make some people happy. Gotta run, but I'll check back to see if you decide to loosen up a little. I'm really a nice old lady.

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Jaysucks

Cape Coral, FL

#479 Dec 2, 2012
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Even a first name beats the aliases we see here. I think Sally has even put her name on here at some point. You or someone else, probably Bill White, recently used my first and last name, and not even in a nice way. It's no wonder we hesitate, but at least we aren't totally obscure or deceptive with our REAL names that we use here. I am aware that it presents risks, and am a little uncomfortable about certain people abusing the info, but I am mean enough to charge hell with a bucket of water if someone sets off my righteous indignation. At one time, I thought you might be someone who wouldn't misuse or abuse, but have given up on that. By the way, I am not Amy. Not nearly as sweet as "Amy" seems to lead one to believe. Sally got it right the first time after I told her how to address me, and I was so thrilled! As I've said before, it takes so little to make some people happy. Gotta run, but I'll check back to see if you decide to loosen up a little. I'm really a nice old lady.
I don't doubt for a minute that you're really a very nice woman, but, you have obviously been fooled by a guy with a good voice in to thinking he's also a nice person. He knows who I am, yet, he remains silent. Why, truth hurts, simple as that.

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Sally

Browns Summit, NC

#480 Dec 2, 2012
Jaysucks wrote:
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You ask for real names, how do we know your name is Sally? Sally what? No one uses their real names here, maybe a first name, but thats it. Why, read the newspapers. Does he read this, you bet he does, funny, h never comments. I suppose its hard to argue with fact.
Sally Anne Whittemore Seward. Browns Summit, NC. All in FaceBook, which is a big bore. My email address has even been given on here. One of the Jay haters even looked me up and found out where I live and made gobs of fun of me because I used to live in a trailer park. Still live in a dbl-wide but it's on 2.2 acres of land now--so we don't have others living up our butts and we can wash our car in our drive if we want. It's no big expensive place to you all, but we have all we need and we might even get it paid off before we die.At least before Joe dies.Don't think I'll make it.
He doesn't need to comment, because no matter what he says, those who aren't fans will say he's lying.

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OlderthanBrenda

San Antonio, TX

#481 Dec 2, 2012
Jaysucks wrote:
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I don't doubt for a minute that you're really a very nice woman, but, you have obviously been fooled by a guy with a good voice in to thinking he's also a nice person. He knows who I am, yet, he remains silent. Why, truth hurts, simple as that.
Maybe he remains silent because I didn't ask him? As for how nice he is, I will never see the other side of him, as I previously explained. How he deals with others is of no concern to me. I can be nice to some people, then turn right around and in the same breath cut another person to ribbons with my sharp tongue. If Jay never treats me anything but nice, or all I know of him is far removed from the guy with the gambling problem who doesn't respect marriage vows among his friends, I would be wrong to think of him as anything but a nice person. Again I ask you, how long has it been since Jay did anything to you? Isn't it all old grievances and not new deeds from the mature man?

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Aimee

San Antonio, TX

#482 Dec 2, 2012
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Sally Anne Whittemore Seward. Browns Summit, NC. All in FaceBook, which is a big bore. My email address has even been given on here. One of the Jay haters even looked me up and found out where I live and made gobs of fun of me because I used to live in a trailer park. Still live in a dbl-wide but it's on 2.2 acres of land now--so we don't have others living up our butts and we can wash our car in our drive if we want. It's no big expensive place to you all, but we have all we need and we might even get it paid off before we die.At least before Joe dies.Don't think I'll make it.
He doesn't need to comment, because no matter what he says, those who aren't fans will say he's lying.
Sally, you are so right. Jay isn't likely to waste his time commenting on such drivel. He's a Scorpio man, and they think much larger than that. The things that are being posted here have nothing to do with David Blatt at this stage of his life. I'm sure he has been apprised of the error of his ways plenty of times, so why would he submit to continual rehashing of the things people claim about him? I still want to know how long it has been since Jay did anything to these haters. They seem to all be dealing from a tattered deck.

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Jaysucks

Cape Coral, FL

#483 Dec 3, 2012
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Sally, you are so right. Jay isn't likely to waste his time commenting on such drivel. He's a Scorpio man, and they think much larger than that. The things that are being posted here have nothing to do with David Blatt at this stage of his life. I'm sure he has been apprised of the error of his ways plenty of times, so why would he submit to continual rehashing of the things people claim about him? I still want to know how long it has been since Jay did anything to these haters. They seem to all be dealing from a tattered deck.
At this stage of his life? He still a degenerative gambler, drunk, smack snorter, womanizer, nothing has changed, only his wallet, that's empty

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Brynn

Lady Lake, FL

#484 Dec 3, 2012
Wouldn't it be funny if JS was actually Jay, and just messing with you! Nah...he wouldn't have time for that. I am happy to hear that Jay reads this. NOTE TO JAY: Hey baby, come on down to FL. Can't wait to see you live and in person! <3

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Jaysucks

Cape Coral, FL

#485 Dec 3, 2012
Brynn wrote:
Wouldn't it be funny if JS was actually Jay, and just messing with you! Nah...he wouldn't have time for that. I am happy to hear that Jay reads this. NOTE TO JAY: Hey baby, come on down to FL. Can't wait to see you live and in person! <3
Wouldn't it??????????

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Aimee

San Antonio, TX

#486 Dec 3, 2012
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At this stage of his life? He still a degenerative gambler, drunk, smack snorter, womanizer, nothing has changed, only his wallet, that's empty
Obviously, i don't claim to know what Jay has done or is doing. I have asked how long it has been since he did anything to any of the people claiming he's all those things. If he's as broke as you say, and all of his friends are fed up with loaning him money that would enable him to gamble, how does he afford to gamble and snort smack? I would be interested in knowing exactly what you call womanizer, and how Jay can chase women if he's drunk, stoned and broke. I suspect Jay could enter a monastery and lead an exemplary life for the rest of eternity, and you would still be making these same comments. If you can set aside your hatred for a few minutes and answer that simple question, your comments might have greater validity. What could Jay possibly do to be forgiven? What changes would it take for you to admit Jay has changed his ways and isn't that despicable person now? What has he done in recent experience to perpetuate those charges? You have never answered any of that, and only replied "quite recently". I am convinced you have decided to hate Jay based on whatever happened long ago, and no amount of change would alter your position because you are so filled with venom that you enjoy spewing. Your mind is made up, and you won't be changed by anything anyone could possibly do to atone or amend.

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