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Del. Lawmakers Unveil DREAM Act for Undocumented Students

There are 78 comments on the WBOC-TV Salisbury story from Mar 16, 2012, titled Del. Lawmakers Unveil DREAM Act for Undocumented Students. In it, WBOC-TV Salisbury reports that:

GEORGETOWN , Del. - Delaware lawmakers are proposing a measure that would allow children of undocumented aliens to receive the same in-state tuition rates and qualify for the same scholarship programs as American college students.

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Ballybunion

Bluffton, SC

#2 Mar 21, 2012
Why not just apply for citizenship? This should also come with a few more strings, make it manditory that they apply for citizenship, that they, upon completion of their studies give 2 or 3 years of service to America in some form, teachers teach in low pay areas, others work for less in depressed areas that need whatever skills they learned etc. Not just a free pass, a sorry Mom and Dad took you illegally, and ILLEGAL IS THE WORD, NOT UNDOCUMENTED, into America so here's your free pass, your "Get out of jail free" card. Your reward for being illegal. That's silly, nothing should be just given away.

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#4 Mar 21, 2012
Pke19808 wrote:
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LOL, BobbyJo,Blufton,SC, Golden Horseshoe, PNGreen, PinkandGreen, Get Serious, StayRight(Banned), Centaurus, Tralee, Balleybunion (all fake screen names that she HAS used or is using), it seems a great deal has been given to you for "nothing". But instead of crumbs it has been on a grand scale. Ever look in the mirror, dear?
Are you also advocating any children born into this country of said "illegals" be denied citizenship? Well? That would contrary to international law and practice. I doubt that you are even that stupid. But then again I might give you and your tea party cohorts too much credit. A question. When was the last time YOU had to work hard for anything? And what would you know about struggle?
Why don't you go volunteer your time into those "depressed areas"? Are you an American Indian? Then I would shut up.
'....contrary to international law and practice...'? The concept of jus soli is not 'international law';the U.S. and Canada are the only advanced nations that have this antiquated law.
Only 30 of 194 countries recognize birthright citizenship,including
Belize,Cambodia,Guatemela,Guya na,Pakistan,Nicaragua,Honduras among the 30-all Third World or emerging economies.
You should be more careful labeling someone as 'stupid',amigo.
TractorFarmer

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Mar 22, 2012
Pke19808 wrote:
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Are you also advocating any children born into this country of said "illegals" be denied citizenship? Well? That would contrary to international law and practice. I doubt that you are even that stupid. But then again I might give you and your tea party cohorts too much credit. A question. When was the last time YOU had to work hard for anything? And what would you know about struggle?
Why don't you go volunteer your time into those "depressed areas"? Are you an American Indian? Then I would shut up.
Children born in USA to illegals should be sent home with their parents. They can go through the proper legal process to become citizens, which any other foreigner from any other country must do. There is a waiting list. And the law should be changed to make children of illegals as illegal as their parents.

Are you saying we should reduce our economy and lifestyles to fit in with Mexico because they are not as well off as we are? And we should work for $1 a day? While it may be fair from a humanity standpoint, it just isn't reality. But being Ameican, you are free to donate all your hard earned money, become a missionary, and help poor people in their country. They don't have to live here.
Pke19808

Wallingford, PA

#6 Mar 22, 2012
copperpossum wrote:
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'....contrary to international law and practice...'? The concept of jus soli is not 'international law';the U.S. and Canada are the only advanced nations that have this antiquated law.
Only 30 of 194 countries recognize birthright citizenship,including
Belize,Cambodia,Guatemela,Guya na,Pakistan,Nicaragua,Honduras among the 30-all Third World or emerging economies.
You should be more careful labeling someone as 'stupid',amigo.
Not when it comes to calling her stupid. Now you are telling me that if you are born in a country, you do not have automatic citizenship in said country? There might be some exceptions, but exceptions not the rule. Would you please cite some sources of your remark, please? I am sorry, but I find that hard to believe. At any rate we do have it, and racist no-nothings like Tralee/Balleybunion I am sure would like to have it reversed. If you are born in this country, you are a citizen. Period. Although I think an exception should be made in Tralee/Balleybunion's case. But then you would have to make the exception for all her fake screen names, too LOL.
Pke19808

Wallingford, PA

#7 Mar 22, 2012
TractorFarmer wrote:
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Children born in USA to illegals should be sent home with their parents. They can go through the proper legal process to become citizens, which any other foreigner from any other country must do. There is a waiting list. And the law should be changed to make children of illegals as illegal as their parents.
Are you saying we should reduce our economy and lifestyles to fit in with Mexico because they are not as well off as we are? And we should work for $1 a day? While it may be fair from a humanity standpoint, it just isn't reality. But being Ameican, you are free to donate all your hard earned money, become a missionary, and help poor people in their country. They don't have to live here.
Attacking innocent children? Real classy. If they are born here, they are citizens. End of story. How can you send back innocent children, if they are born here? It would result in terrible human suffering. It's really heartles and not practical. More know-nothing BS.
You wrote:
Are you saying we should reduce our economy and lifestyles to fit in with Mexico because they are not as well off as we are? And we should work for $1 a day?
Did I ever say that? No never. You are just twisting and manipulating trying to make your point. You remind me of the same people when my Irish ancestors came over that said we would ruin the country for various reasons. Well it didn't hold water then, and fear mongering doesn't now.
You wrote:
But being Ameican, you are free to donate all your hard earned money, become a missionary, and help poor people in their country. They don't have to live here

Actually I would trade 10 of them coming here for an ignorant reactionary like you. I think you are the one that needs to be a missionary and get some humanity in you and compassion for other people. Talk about cruel and heartless, children, yet. Do you also mug old ladys????

Since: Sep 09

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#8 Mar 22, 2012
Pke19808 wrote:
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Not when it comes to calling her stupid. Now you are telling me that if you are born in a country, you do not have automatic citizenship in said country? There might be some exceptions, but exceptions not the rule. Would you please cite some sources of your remark, please? I am sorry, but I find that hard to believe. At any rate we do have it, and racist no-nothings like Tralee/Balleybunion I am sure would like to have it reversed. If you are born in this country, you are a citizen. Period. Although I think an exception should be made in Tralee/Balleybunion's case. But then you would have to make the exception for all her fake screen names, too LOL.
A simple web search for 'jus soli' will refute your mistaken beliefs.You will read that several countries have revoked the 'birthright citizenship' statute in recent years.America would do well to follow suit,requiring at least one parent have citizenship.

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#9 Mar 22, 2012
If Delaware passes this law, every US student in the country, resident of the state or not, MUST be given in-state tuition rates by federal law. I wonder how they plan to get around that little problem.

Maybe by jacking up in-state tuition to the cost of out-of-state tuition? LOL! There's a sucker born every minute, and I think Delaware wants to run a money-making con on ilegals. ROTFL!

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#10 Mar 22, 2012
Pke19808 wrote:
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Attacking innocent children? Real classy. If they are born here, they are citizens. End of story. How can you send back innocent children, if they are born here? It would result in terrible human suffering. It's really heartles and not practical. More know-nothing BS.
If the parents of those children are deported, the children must go with the parents. Parents are responsible for their offspring. No state has the right to take children from parents without cause. Citizenship is not cause. And it is not the responsibility of US citizens to support and raise the children of anyone else, not even the children of citizens, let alone foreigners.

Children are always much better off with their natural parents. If citizen children of illegal aliens are put into our foster care system, they will automatically be up for permanent adoption after a period of time. If deported parents don't care and abandon their citizen children here, then that's what has to happen. If those deported parents are responsible people and want to raise their own children, then the children must leave the USA with their parents. Citizenship doesn't get anyone a free ride, not even children.

Upon reaching the age of 18, expat citizen children need only apply to the State Department to repatriate and hold full rights of citizenship.
Perez

Magnolia, DE

#11 Mar 23, 2012
All of you arguing but avoiding the real issue, the children of illegal immigrants born in the US are US CITIZENS! you cannot change that but the fact that some may not attend college is an outrage because if they have worked through elmementary. middle. and high school than what makes them any different, there skin color? isnt this the problem that america had with African American 30 years back? equality is the only solution to this problem and let those children be judged by what they put in and let them be rewarded no labeled becasue white americans and african americans are not the only ones with dreams

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#12 Mar 23, 2012
Perez wrote:
All of you arguing but avoiding the real issue, the children of illegal immigrants born in the US are US CITIZENS! you cannot change that but the fact that some may not attend college is an outrage because if they have worked through elmementary. middle. and high school than what makes them any different, there skin color? isnt this the problem that america had with African American 30 years back? equality is the only solution to this problem and let those children be judged by what they put in and let them be rewarded no labeled becasue white americans and african americans are not the only ones with dreams
You're way off base, Perez. The topic is 'undocumented students,' not citizen students. Illegals alien students not born in the USA, not citizen students. Children of illegal aliens born elsewhere and brought here by their parents. Got it?

Try to keep up.
PkE19808

Wallingford, PA

#13 Mar 23, 2012
Perez wrote:
All of you arguing but avoiding the real issue, the children of illegal immigrants born in the US are US CITIZENS! you cannot change that but the fact that some may not attend college is an outrage because if they have worked through elmementary. middle. and high school than what makes them any different, there skin color? isnt this the problem that america had with African American 30 years back? equality is the only solution to this problem and let those children be judged by what they put in and let them be rewarded no labeled becasue white americans and african americans are not the only ones with dreams
Very good post, Perez. You have to excuse these racist know-nothings, half of them just learned to walk upright this morning. My guess is "Indepedent Patriot" is Tralee/Balleybunion, harassing this forum again, now that Talk Delaware is down. As I said last time I looked none of these "citizens" were American Inians. They are the "true" Americans for those of you who would like to get technical. What you describe is what these racists would like to see. they just disguise it as something else.
PkE19808

Wallingford, PA

#14 Mar 23, 2012
copperpossum wrote:
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A simple web search for 'jus soli' will refute your mistaken beliefs.You will read that several countries have revoked the 'birthright citizenship' statute in recent years.America would do well to follow suit,requiring at least one parent have citizenship.
No, that would be a mistake. It would punish the children becuase of the parents. A truly disgusting concept. Now instead of a "simple" web search would you like to cite some sources? I assume you have some? What countries are in the majority??
PkE19808

Wallingford, PA

#15 Mar 23, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
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If the parents of those children are deported, the children must go with the parents. Parents are responsible for their offspring. No state has the right to take children from parents without cause. Citizenship is not cause. And it is not the responsibility of US citizens to support and raise the children of anyone else, not even the children of citizens, let alone foreigners.
Children are always much better off with their natural parents. If citizen children of illegal aliens are put into our foster care system, they will automatically be up for permanent adoption after a period of time. If deported parents don't care and abandon their citizen children here, then that's what has to happen. If those deported parents are responsible people and want to raise their own children, then the children must leave the USA with their parents. Citizenship doesn't get anyone a free ride, not even children.
Upon reaching the age of 18, expat citizen children need only apply to the State Department to repatriate and hold full rights of citizenship.
Yes they are better off with their parents. That is why the parents are allowed to tay in this country. If you had any regard for "these children" that you are trying to getpeople to believe, you would not want to uproot them and send them back to a hellhole. Any idea why people go to all the trouble and trauma of moving from one country to another? Because the country they are in, stinks. That is why my people came from Ireland and Germany.Your hostility towards these children is truly disturbing.
I just hope YOU never need a helping hand. Don't be so smug and sure you won't. Also to dehumanize these people by calling the "foreigners" shows exactly the racist agenda you have. Miss Talk Delaware?
PkE19808

Wallingford, PA

#16 Mar 23, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
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You're way off base, Perez. The topic is 'undocumented students,' not citizen students. Illegals alien students not born in the USA, not citizen students. Children of illegal aliens born elsewhere and brought here by their parents. Got it?
Try to keep up.
Where in the hell do YOU get off saying "Got That"? What are you the teacher? Perez disagres with you, as I do, because of your anti-immigrant racist rantings. You have to be Tralee/Balleybunion or one of her crowd. She goes under MANY different FAKE screen names. She is shameless. The man is allowed to give his opinion and not have you butt in. Who are YOU to decide what the topic is?
Why don't you keep your racist crap to yourself. It is not welcomed here.

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#17 Mar 23, 2012
PkE19808 wrote:
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Very good post, Perez. You have to excuse these racist know-nothings, half of them just learned to walk upright this morning. My guess is "Indepedent Patriot" is Tralee/Balleybunion, harassing this forum again, now that Talk Delaware is down. As I said last time I looked none of these "citizens" were American Inians. They are the "true" Americans for those of you who would like to get technical. What you describe is what these racists would like to see. they just disguise it as something else.
ROTFL! Guess you don't know what the topic is, either. You should try to keep up, too.

I suspect you wouldn't know a true American if one bit your face. LOLOL! For those very same people who want to get technical, the USA creates American citizens. Natives didn't ever describe themselves as Americans, or natives, for that matter. They didn't even agree on much among their 200 plus tribes. They lost, the USA won, thus Americans are what US citizens are called in this hemisphere. You're more than a bit behind on that matter, too, by the way.

As for racism (LOL):

RACISIM AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

Written by Rita Bonilla Thursday, 03 June 2010 15:02

One of the 'founders' of the Reconquista (reconquer) Movement some years back said:

"We call things RACISM just to get attention. We reduce complicated problems to RACISM, not because IT IS RACISM, but because it works."

Alfredo Gutierrez, political consultant, as quoted by Richard de Uriarte, The Phoenix Gazette, March 14, 1992 (quoted in The ProEnglish Advocate, 1st Quarter, 2002).
PkE19808

Wallingford, PA

#18 Mar 23, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
If Delaware passes this law, every US student in the country, resident of the state or not, MUST be given in-state tuition rates by federal law. I wonder how they plan to get around that little problem.
Maybe by jacking up in-state tuition to the cost of out-of-state tuition? LOL! There's a sucker born every minute, and I think Delaware wants to run a money-making con on ilegals. ROTFL!
Why do you have such a pathalogical hate of illegals? I can understand being concerned. But you are using them as a scapegoat for everything that is wrong with this country. The last country to do that on a large scale was Nazi Germany and the result was far from happy.
PkE19808

Wallingford, PA

#19 Mar 23, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
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ROTFL! Guess you don't know what the topic is, either. You should try to keep up, too.
I suspect you wouldn't know a true American if one bit your face. LOLOL! For those very same people who want to get technical, the USA creates American citizens. Natives didn't ever describe themselves as Americans, or natives, for that matter. They didn't even agree on much among their 200 plus tribes. They lost, the USA won, thus Americans are what US citizens are called in this hemisphere. You're more than a bit behind on that matter, too, by the way.
As for racism (LOL):
RACISIM AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
Who are you "The Topic Police", LOL. Stop trying to cover your prejudice and racism with "off topic" BS. No one appointed you moderator, either. Watching this forum closely? I know someone else who does that? I just posted minutes ago.
Written by Rita Bonilla Thursday, 03 June 2010 15:02
One of the 'founders' of the Reconquista (reconquer) Movement some years back said:
"We call things RACISM just to get attention. We reduce complicated problems to RACISM, not because IT IS RACISM, but because it works."
Alfredo Gutierrez, political consultant, as quoted by Richard de Uriarte, The Phoenix Gazette, March 14, 1992 (quoted in The ProEnglish Advocate, 1st Quarter, 2002).
Again, you quote gibberish just to try and hide your overt racist agenda. You would know a true American, you moron? I am saying the original indigenous people of this land WERE American Indians. Is that too challenging for your small racist mind? Just because an injustice happened years ago (remember the Holocaust, and what side would you be on with that, I can guess) does NOT make it any less an injustice. My point is how would YOU like it if American Indians used the same logic against you and would like YOU to go back where you came from. I sure would. I am sure according to you there is no racism. Even the Nazis weren't racist. Just a little misunderstanding "to get attention?"

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#20 Mar 23, 2012
PkE19808 wrote:
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Where in the hell do YOU get off saying "Got That"? What are you the teacher? Perez disagres with you, as I do, because of your anti-immigrant racist rantings. You have to be Tralee/Balleybunion or one of her crowd. She goes under MANY different FAKE screen names. She is shameless. The man is allowed to give his opinion and not have you butt in. Who are YOU to decide what the topic is?
Why don't you keep your racist crap to yourself. It is not welcomed here.
Who died and left YOU king? I have the right to type 'got that' because I'm in a public forum suffering the presence of racist, misogynistic, anti-American cretins like you and the person you defend.

You still don't get it, do you? So, you disagree that the topic is the children brought to the USA by illegal parents? Funny, but when one reads the article, one gets the distinct impression that you are wrong.

Fine, let the 'man' express any opinion he likes, but don't expect other posters in a public forum to play his game of drawing people into an entirely different issue. He tried, I slapped his widdle fingers and wouldn't play. That you get so huffed about a common occurence on Topix points to another problem you obviously have with me, personally. Tough. Get over yourself and get out of my face. Got that?

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#21 Mar 23, 2012
PkE19808 wrote:
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Again, you quote gibberish just to try and hide your overt racist agenda. You would know a true American, you moron? I am saying the original indigenous people of this land WERE American Indians. Is that too challenging for your small racist mind? Just because an injustice happened years ago (remember the Holocaust, and what side would you be on with that, I can guess) does NOT make it any less an injustice. My point is how would YOU like it if American Indians used the same logic against you and would like YOU to go back where you came from. I sure would. I am sure according to you there is no racism. Even the Nazis weren't racist. Just a little misunderstanding "to get attention?"
I'm shoving your racist card in your face and calling it what it is - a propaganda game enemies play to discredit those they are attacking and wish to harm. Same goes for your Nazi reference, chump. Old, old trick that simply doesn't work because it simply doesn't apply.

'Illegal alien' isn't a race, it's a criminal status as described by law.'Mexican' isn't a race, it's a nationality claimed by the country of Mexico. Hating either or both does not constitute 'racism.' You just want others to 'believe' it's racism because you think that will discredit me and my posts.

No. I really don't like illegal aliens or Mexicans. Can't say I truly hate them all that much, because if I hated them, I would most like shoot them. Illegal aliens are tearing down the fabric of my country, and Mexicans are the enemies of my country supplying most of the invading illegal aliens by the millions. Duh. What's to like about them, and what person EVER liked the invading enemy? It's not rocket science, sparky.

Call it what you will, and you most certainly will, because you can't openly admit that Mexican illegal aliens are the enemy of the USA and her people. I'm quite justified in my feelings because it is my country being invaded and victimized by foreigners for no good reason. You are quite unjustified in your chest-beating stance because you are defending agressors invading a sovereign country. You just do it so badly and so transparently.
PkE 19808

Wallingford, PA

#22 Mar 23, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
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Who died and left YOU king? I have the right to type 'got that' because I'm in a public forum suffering the presence of racist, misogynistic, anti-American cretins like you and the person you defend.
You still don't get it, do you? So, you disagree that the topic is the children brought to the USA by illegal parents? Funny, but when one reads the article, one gets the distinct impression that you are wrong.
Fine, let the 'man' express any opinion he likes, but don't expect other posters in a public forum to play his game of drawing people into an entirely different issue. He tried, I slapped his widdle fingers and wouldn't play. That you get so huffed about a common occurence on Topix points to another problem you obviously have with me, personally. Tough. Get over yourself and get out of my face. Got that?
Why don't you stop sounding like a self-serving racist azz? You are the one that is Anti-American. You seem to stand against everything this country was founded on. Justice, second chances, liberty, equality. Get off your high horse. Again I think you would be more at home in Nazi Germany or some other fascist dictatorship. And I have to suffer someone of your limited intellect that goes around shouting racist slogans, GOT THAT?? You are the one acting like a queen, of what I don't know? The racists? The facists? Heartless bastards? Pick one.
You wrote
Fine, let the 'man' express any opinion he likes
"The man" doesn't need YOUR permission to express ANY opinion he likes. Just because you don't agree with it, does NOT mean it lacks validity. You seem to think YOUR opinion trumps everyone elses. How arrogant can you get?
You wrote:
I slapped his widdle fingers and wouldn't play.

Actually you made a real horse's azz out of yourself and put on public display your arrogance and mean spirit. Your politics doesn't surprise me.
You wrote:
Tough. Get over yourself and get out of my face. Got that?

You are the one getting in someone's face. And you are making a BIG mistake getting in mine. F^&k Off. Got that???

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