Charter school system is fundamentall...

Charter school system is fundamentally unfair

There are 9 comments on the News Journal story from Mar 8, 2012, titled Charter school system is fundamentally unfair. In it, News Journal reports that:

In response to Greg Meece's column 'Stop Blaming Schools That Have Broken Barriers of Mediocrity.' I would like to stress that I certainly do not begrudge Newark Charter School its success. But there is a problem of fundamental fairness in a system that accepts the overwhelming number of its students by lottery at the kindergarten level, shows preference to siblings of already-admitted students, and denies everyone else even a chance at admission. As a Tuesday letter writer wrote, 'Somewhere between kindergarten and 12th grade, the inequities here far outweigh the advantages.' The absence of a cafeteria at NCS, which induces low-income families to choose between giving up subsidized meals for their children or not even entering the lottery, further demonstrates the inequity of NCS's system. Recently, University of Delaware professor Frank Murray, retired dean of the College of Education, said Newark Charter 'should build a cafeteria so it can be faithful to the lottery requirement of unbiased admission (which it has skirted) and ... if it seeks funds for expansion it should expand the grades it has to accommodate more (or all) of those it otherwise denies admission.' In the interest of fundamental fairness, I wholeheartedly agree. Patricia Magee, Newark

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Since: Nov 11

Chickamauga, GA

#1 Mar 8, 2012
Rather than worrying about whether a school has a cafeteria or not, how about doing something to fix the rapidly deteriorating public school system in Delaware? For over 30 years, education of children in Delaware has taken a back seat to numerous political & social agendas. The U/D prof certainly had plenty of time to try to make a difference in the lives of Delaware school children but his priority seems to be on making comments as to whether schools have cafeterias or not.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

AOL

#2 Mar 9, 2012
TrueBlueHen wrote:
Rather than worrying about whether a school has a cafeteria or not, how about doing something to fix the rapidly deteriorating public school system in Delaware? For over 30 years, education of children in Delaware has taken a back seat to numerous political & social agendas. The U/D prof certainly had plenty of time to try to make a difference in the lives of Delaware school children but his priority seems to be on making comments as to whether schools have cafeterias or not.
I totally agree, this whole fight seems sort of childish and pretty much a waste of time. The cafeteria bit is supposedly a mark against them to somehow prove they discriminate against the poor. No cafeteria, no free breakfast and lunch. Also there seems to be some annoyance that if one child is accepted the younger children will also be accepted as they come of age. Now that seems fair to me, but the ones who don't get picked will always whine about something. Why not just start ANOTHER Charter School for the overflow? OR as you said, fix the one's we have now. Oh, right, can't do that, the teacher unions would have a hissy fit if they actually had to make their paying customers, the teachers, do their jobs.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

AOL

#3 Mar 9, 2012
PS - I can't "Judge It" my "Judge It" button has been inoperable for two months and apparently can't be fixed. So the "Agree" icon from me will have to be verbal. ;)

Since: Nov 11

Chickamauga, GA

#5 Mar 9, 2012
I never realized the lack of a cafeteria would be considered discriminatory. My public school opinions are based on the lack of teaching that went on while my children attended school. Can't always blame the teachers -- I remember my daughter's 2nd grade teacher holding a special parents' meeting to explain why she wasn't able to get thru all the kids' lessons every day. There were 3 students in the class that were highly disruptive many times a day. The teacher spent most of the class time trying to control these 3 students. This went on for months without resolution until the teacher finally called the emergency meeting. And, it still didn't get resolved. This is only one of many, many stories I can share about our deficient Delaware school system.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

AOL

#6 Mar 9, 2012
What a shame, we had very little experience with public schools, our eldest went to public school for part of a year when we moved out of our old Parish district, but we heard the stories from some of our friends with kids in DE public schools, never heard one bad word about the Chadds Ford area schools though. The cafeteria thing was deemed discriminatory because supposedly the lower income kids wouldn't apply because they couldn't take advantage of the free breakfast and lunch programs available in schools with cafeterias.

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Since: May 08

DNFTT

#7 Mar 9, 2012
My family has a long tradition of involvement in both public education and charter schools, so there has been much effort, concern and money devoted to considering these issues.

Sadly, the public school systems long ago turned their REAL focus-- to a large, shocking and deplorable degree-- to serving the interests of the non-student constituencies. As Gov. Christie ruefully noted, EVERY group involved in the system EXCEPT the students has richly financed lobbyists and consultants looking to wrest every advantage possible for their personal interests. That includes every segment from teachers to administrators to superintendents to custodians!

Competition is good for raising the level of performance in all activities, and NO area critical to the future of our children and our national interest is more sorely in need of that than is our dysfunctional and failing public education system.

We've poured trillions into pointless subsidies of the existing structure that continues to shamelessly demand that it be left alone to continue.... what????? To quote the well known adage, insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different result.

Since: Nov 11

Chickamauga, GA

#8 Mar 10, 2012
Ballybunion wrote:
What a shame, we had very little experience with public schools, our eldest went to public school for part of a year when we moved out of our old Parish district, but we heard the stories from some of our friends with kids in DE public schools, never heard one bad word about the Chadds Ford area schools though. The cafeteria thing was deemed discriminatory because supposedly the lower income kids wouldn't apply because they couldn't take advantage of the free breakfast and lunch programs available in schools with cafeterias.
Eventually we pulled our kids out of public school also. One needed private tutoring for a year to catch up to his grade level in the new school (he was a few years behind his fellow students -- we never knew based on the info we got from his public school teacher). Actually, I don't think his teachers really paid much attention to him. He was one of the "good" kids -- was too quiet to earn any attention I guess. So, since then, we make sure we vote against any school referendums asking for more money. We needed the extra to pay for our kids' schools & now I would rather save up to help the grandkids when the time comes.

Since: Nov 11

Chickamauga, GA

#9 Mar 10, 2012
I heard on WDEL the other day that Al Masciotti also had to pull his kids out of public school in Delaware in order for them to get educated. Was surprised to hear that come out of his mouth but I totally understood. Probably one of the few times I ever agreed with Al. But, like me, his kids were his priority & you get one chance to educate your kids right. Delaware is too busy making education a social agenda & experiment. Thirty years of doing that & nothing has changed (except the kids are getting dumber).

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Since: Nov 11

AOL

#10 Mar 11, 2012
TrueBlueHen wrote:
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Eventually we pulled our kids out of public school also. One needed private tutoring for a year to catch up to his grade level in the new school (he was a few years behind his fellow students -- we never knew based on the info we got from his public school teacher). Actually, I don't think his teachers really paid much attention to him. He was one of the "good" kids -- was too quiet to earn any attention I guess. So, since then, we make sure we vote against any school referendums asking for more money. We needed the extra to pay for our kids' schools & now I would rather save up to help the grandkids when the time comes.
I know what you mean, the "Good" ones sort of got bypassed. I think it's sort of like "The squeaky wheel gets the grease" thing. As I said, only one of ours was ever in public school and then only for part of a year. It was worth it to pay the extra for private but I did get annoyed when we still had to pay for the bus or drive them and still had to pay the school taxes but got no benefits. At least in PA if you sent your kids to private school in DE they bussed you there. I used to watch the PA bus carrying kids to Archmere or Ursuline drive past our house every day, as I drove one of them either to Archmere or Ursuline.

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