Protester Defends Flag-Burning at Occ...

Protester Defends Flag-Burning at Occupy Charlotte

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Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#1 Dec 31, 2011
The occucommies deliver again! This time they are burning American flags. This group has gone beyond anything any American has to accept and tolerate. Burning our flag is nothing more than an anti-American subversive statement. It IS NOT free speech, it IS NOT acceptable. Americans need to begin writing their government Representatives and let them know that this type of reprehensible activity is unacceptable and should be addressed. The occupy scumbags needs to go home, take a bath, and get a job. They DONíT represent Americans. The law needs to be changed to make it a Federal crime to burn our flag and deported w/o citizenship. Anyone burning it has made a statement they no longer wish to be part of this country and should be shown the door.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/31/proteste...

Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#2 Dec 31, 2011
And..... before the whiners say the Supreme Court said it is free speech, which it did; flag burning needs to be addressed with a law. That flag represents this country, freedom, and many many thousands paid in blood for our flag, no American should sit still and think this is acceptable.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Bluffton, SC

#3 Dec 31, 2011
Exit, it's considered free speech, but ironically, many times it is forbidden to fly the flag. Strange isn't it? Shouldn't FLYING the flag be considered free speech too? We saw the pictures of these charmers, I doubt a shower and clean clothes is all they need to get a job. They didn't seem prime examples of American Greatness. The police got them, not on burning the flag, but for burning SOMETHING too close to combustables. BTW - REAL patriots do NOT think that burning our flag is anything but either a stupid kid acting out or a big sign of disrespect for all that America stands for, notice how many American flags are burnt in countries protesting our very existance. I think that pretty much tells the tale. Happy New Year, don't over do the champagne! ;) Me!

Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#4 Dec 31, 2011
Ballybunion wrote:
Exit, it's considered free speech, but ironically, many times it is forbidden to fly the flag. Strange isn't it? Shouldn't FLYING the flag be considered free speech too? We saw the pictures of these charmers, I doubt a shower and clean clothes is all they need to get a job. They didn't seem prime examples of American Greatness. The police got them, not on burning the flag, but for burning SOMETHING too close to combustables. BTW - REAL patriots do NOT think that burning our flag is anything but either a stupid kid acting out or a big sign of disrespect for all that America stands for, notice how many American flags are burnt in countries protesting our very existance. I think that pretty much tells the tale. Happy New Year, don't over do the champagne! ;) Me!
Yes, ok to burn but not to fly. This country is in trouble. Burning the flag is highly disrespectful and yes childish, but the message intended is very clear. For me, burning the flag steps over the line.

I'll watch the champagne, have a happy new year!
Skip Coonerty

Santa Cruz, CA

#9 Dec 31, 2011
Pikecreek 19808 wrote:
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Hey ExitDe,
Have you EVER seen any military service???? My Dad upheld the burning of the flag. He didn't like it, to be sure. But he said it was free expression, and one of the rights of this country. BUT he was in action in Normandy, Anzio, North Africa, was on the the fleet to Japan before the bomb was dropped. He also walked through Dachau, and a number of other concentration camps. What did YOU do? Maybe he saw some of your beliefs in action. Again. Did you ever see any atrocities like this? Sitting on your azz running your mouth is easy, eh???
Pikecreek 19808
Be careful with the war hero claims....imposters are despised by REAL Americans...your Dad sounds like a phony.

http://www.homeofheroes.com/valor/01_MOH/impo...

Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#10 Jan 1, 2012
Pikecreek 19808 wrote:
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Hey ExitDe,
Have you EVER seen any military service???? My Dad upheld the burning of the flag. He didn't like it, to be sure. But he said it was free expression, and one of the rights of this country. BUT he was in action in Normandy, Anzio, North Africa, was on the the fleet to Japan before the bomb was dropped. He also walked through Dachau, and a number of other concentration camps. What did YOU do? Maybe he saw some of your beliefs in action. Again. Did you ever see any atrocities like this? Sitting on your azz running your mouth is easy, eh???
Pikecreek 19808
You should really learn to respect this country and what it stands for, you are free to espouse your comments degrading anyone who comments, burning our flag however is crossing the line. Anyone who has to resort to that obviously does not possess any skill or mental capacity at all to express themselves in a civil and respectful way. I will never see burning a flag as freedom of speech or expression, only for what it truly is, disrespect for this country and those who died to defend it. As far as ows, they are exactly as I stated, a communist / socialist / anarchist driven anti-American movement comprised of malcontents, leaches, criminals, and sadly some actual caring good people who do not have a clue what they got in bed with, period. Have a nice day.

Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#13 Jan 1, 2012
Pikecreek 19808 wrote:
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@ExitDEyou are free to espouse your comments degrading anyone who comments
Exit, I really don't need you to tell me I am free to express my comments. The last time I looked you were not one of the authors of the Constitution. My own personal belief is that flag burning is disgusting and rude. So is picking your nose. What is the point you are trying to make??? I don't have the right to regulate free expression, and you, my good man, don't either. When you start letting the Government regulate that, you are on a slippery slope to a dictatorship. I assume you are a Republician. Typical non-issue from a party that can only obstruct, not solve. But YOU are free to be something I FIND disgusting because this is a FREE country, and that means for EVERYONE. Get over yourself. When was the last time you walked through a camp and saw the final outcome of your politics??(CONSERVATIVE/Facism ). My Father had pix, I looked at. Just as the extreme of Leftist politics is Communism, the extreme of Tea Party/Conservatism is Facism. read some history. To let the TP get control of this Country, in my opinion, would get us on are way to that sort of Government. Fortunately they seem to be ending up on the ash heap of history. YOU have no right to limit someone else's rights. You might find their behavior offensive, as I do, but that is free expression. For EVERYONE. Not just you.
As far as your comment and I quote "a communist / socialist / anarchist driven anti-American movement comprised of malcontents, leaches, criminals, and sadly some actual caring good people who do not have a clue what they got in bed with, period. Have a nice day" insert the name Facism and you have the Tea Party/Conservative movement. How would you like YOUR freedom of speech regulated?
Pikecreek 19808
If you too think burning our flag is disgusting and rude, why would you support it? Why not, like me ask for legislation that makes it illegal, and not allowed to be disgraced as some form of "expression". Stand up for the flag that represents all these freedoms you enjoy and were and are being dearly paid for to protect. I never said anything about limiting free speech, it does have it's limits though. Yelling fire in a crowded room isn't free speech, it's illegal.
And for your edification, I have absolutely nothing to do with the Tea Party, I vote for who ever I think will do the best job, and I am a moderate conservative. OWS is as I stated, they have the documented track record to prove it, sorry, but that's a fact.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Bluffton, SC

#14 Jan 1, 2012
Exit, the overnight arrests of the squatters is, as far as reported, 3 or 4 arrested in NYC and 14 in Iowa. A very "peaceful" "respectful" group indeed. Burning flags, pooping on police cars, rape, assault and freeloading. That about covers all their greatness! How many parks have they been run out of now? LOL you do understand that he would contradict you no matter what you say? I don't even bother giving him the satisfaction of a reply or acknowledgement. Why encourage lies and acting out? If you came out in favor of flag buring you can be sure he would, in one of his names, castigate you for existing. Funny how he's soooooo very interested in MY life and marriage and prior employment. Issues, he has many of them. We can pity him but I don't encourage him.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Bluffton, SC

#15 Jan 1, 2012
Skip Coonerty wrote:
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Be careful with the war hero claims....imposters are despised by REAL Americans...your Dad sounds like a phony.
http://www.homeofheroes.com/valor/01_MOH/impo...
Ignore the sock puppet. His post is just a "Tale" not truth. Or in this name his dad was a 16 or younger WWII vet. MY dad was one, he would be 95 this year! I'm 65 - married 44 years - do the math. LOL - he tried to spread a tale, got caught in it and is trying to undo the damage without success. The best is when he gets on and talks to himself. They say insanity is not talking to yourself, but watch out when you start answering yourself. LOL

Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#18 Jan 1, 2012
Ballybunion wrote:
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Ignore the sock puppet. His post is just a "Tale" not truth. Or in this name his dad was a 16 or younger WWII vet. MY dad was one, he would be 95 this year! I'm 65 - married 44 years - do the math. LOL - he tried to spread a tale, got caught in it and is trying to undo the damage without success. The best is when he gets on and talks to himself. They say insanity is not talking to yourself, but watch out when you start answering yourself. LOL
After the last response I received from that poster, I am beginning to wonder if the person has some real issues that need to be addressed by a professional. Following a topic, reading comprehension, civil discussion, agree to disagree, respect for others and no personal attacks (which I am surprised this site allows)none of those exist. I post here to put an opinion out, not be trashed by someone who clearly has a disconnect to the topic at hand and reality. Somehow the person morphed the topic to WWII. My Uncles fought that war, one drove a tank under Patton from Italy and on into Germany, then went and fought in Korea, others were on Saipan, on hospital ships, my Father in law landed on Normandy D-Day as an Engineer (check out what those guys did) and fought into Germany. His Unit was north of the Remagen Bridge, the guys that laid down a pontoon bridge under intense fire, that clown cannot even comment on that era as far as I'm concerned. And as far as his idiotic statement about Dachau, I have been there; I stood on that hallowed ground, along with a lot of other places. Trolls will be trolls, no offense taken, just need to consider the source.

Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#20 Jan 1, 2012
Pikecreek 19808 wrote:
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Well BobbyJo,Blufton,SC, Golden Horseshoe, PNGreen, PinkandGreen, Get Serious, StayRight(Banned), Centaurus,and latest Balleybunion
You certainly seem fascinated by their bathroom habits. DO you have some little uh, problem you might want to seek help for?
PNGreen wrote:
A very "peaceful" "respectful" group indeed. Burning flags, pooping on police cars, rape, assault and freeloading
I thought "Freeloading" was your specialty?
I have asked you numerous times for sources for this claim, and not from some right-wing rag. Where are they? Because this is simply an out and out lie, but what else could one expect????
Also mind your own business, and let who wants to interact do so.
That was the problem with you on Delaware Online. You were into EVERYONE's business with your fake screen names. Why aren't you on there now????
The reason you seldom reply to me is because I have verbally cleaned your clock and exposed you for who and what you are.A nasty fraud. So has Frontporch (Ray). If you are talking about Ray, you are quite correct with calling him he. I am a she, kindly remember that. You have no class or intelligence, kindly let the people on here who are capable of thinking, do so. I respect ExitDE and have great debates with him. As I said get lost. This si NOT going to be your right-wing love fest. Why are you sooo terrified of OWS??? because they have a shot at being successful and influence politics. Maybe your low taxes will go up?
Pikecreek 19808
If you call them debates fine, I'll respect that. I really do wonder sometimes where you are coming from. Real, or trolling, it is hard to tell. I don't like trashing people, and I respect their point of view, and have an open mind..........to a point. You mentioned why fear OWS. Not because they want change, or things being done right; it is how they present themselves, who is behind them and thei conduct, that's all. Really, tell the truth now, have you really researched them? Would you really want to live in the world they seem to want? Think about it. I am not saying everything is good by any means, I also think banks need their clock cleaned but not as OWS proposes. actually I hava a lot of Liberal friends, we get along fine, they are not the enemy as you think I see them. We don't always agree but we sure don't trash each other. And....... I will NEVER back down from burning our flag is wrong, I can never accept that, laws need to be changed.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Bluffton, SC

#21 Jan 1, 2012
exitde wrote:
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After the last response I received from that poster, I am beginning to wonder if the person has some real issues that need to be addressed by a professional. Following a topic, reading comprehension, civil discussion, agree to disagree, respect for others and no personal attacks (which I am surprised this site allows)none of those exist. I post here to put an opinion out, not be trashed by someone who clearly has a disconnect to the topic at hand and reality. Somehow the person morphed the topic to WWII. My Uncles fought that war, one drove a tank under Patton from Italy and on into Germany, then went and fought in Korea, others were on Saipan, on hospital ships, my Father in law landed on Normandy D-Day as an Engineer (check out what those guys did) and fought into Germany. His Unit was north of the Remagen Bridge, the guys that laid down a pontoon bridge under intense fire, that clown cannot even comment on that era as far as I'm concerned. And as far as his idiotic statement about Dachau, I have been there; I stood on that hallowed ground, along with a lot of other places. Trolls will be trolls, no offense taken, just need to consider the source.
Exactly, he's reduced to repeating the same old crak over and over, I guess he thinks if it's repeated enough, with enough venom and ire, someone other that his alter will buy it! What a loon. Dad was a Lt. Comm. in the SeaBees and his crew built the mockup of the Normandy invasion, hubby just missed going on the last sail of the Pueblo, he had a super secret clearence. Brothers and Brothers in law all served and all are true patriots! THOSE are real patriots, not someone spouting a fabricated story to make some obscure point. Major issues and they certainly need addressing by a professional.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Bluffton, SC

#22 Jan 1, 2012
Exit, Looks like he's got your number. Oh well, I refuse to engage with him or any of his names. You do understand he is NOT going to stop as long as someone, anyone plus his alter Frontporch, gives him the attention he so craves. It makes me literally sick to my stomach to see the vile insults he's writing about me, they are vile, lies and slander. I feel like I need a shower just scrolling trough his pile of dog doo. I have reported him so many times, some of his worse comments have been removed and I think he can no longer use anothers name. But, since this is a free country he's free to give an OPINION, the slander and lies is what makes me want to vomit. That they let such filth actually exist, that someone whose mind is so bent actually exists and is free to spew the venom and filth is an affront to all who fought for the freedom of speech.

Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#23 Jan 1, 2012
Ballybunion wrote:
Exit, Looks like he's got your number. Oh well, I refuse to engage with him or any of his names. You do understand he is NOT going to stop as long as someone, anyone plus his alter Frontporch, gives him the attention he so craves. It makes me literally sick to my stomach to see the vile insults he's writing about me, they are vile, lies and slander. I feel like I need a shower just scrolling trough his pile of dog doo. I have reported him so many times, some of his worse comments have been removed and I think he can no longer use anothers name. But, since this is a free country he's free to give an OPINION, the slander and lies is what makes me want to vomit. That they let such filth actually exist, that someone whose mind is so bent actually exists and is free to spew the venom and filth is an affront to all who fought for the freedom of speech.
He doesn't have my number, I've had his / hers for awhile but gave them a chance. Oh well, have a safe, healthy, happy new year.

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