All Conservatves only, What does it mean if Paul wins Iowa?

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“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Bluffton, SC

#1 Jan 3, 2012
Does it mean Iowa is not a bellwether State? Just a glitch? Just the conservatives looking for Mr/Ms Perfect? Did Newt ruin his chance with his whining about the ads? Finally, who do you think is best to defeat Obama?

Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#3 Jan 4, 2012
Paul would not be good for this country, especially his foreign policy ideas. I don't like his track record either, actually I am surprised he has gotten as far as he has. Who can defeat Obama? Anyone who goes up against him, he has all but destroyed this country, not hard to beat that record. All he will do is run a dirty campaign, he has no accomplishments to take credit for, he has a pile of costly mistakes he owns.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#5 Jan 4, 2012
I believe that President Obama was smiling at the results of the Iowa vote last night. Iowa clearly showed that Republicans have not resolved the badly splintering of their political party yet. The equally -divided support for Romney(The New Right tough love Reagan New Dealers ); Ron Paul (Old Right, anti-imperialist, decentralized umpire state) Rick Santorum( Moral Majority); and least favorable Newt Gingrich(Supply-Siders--Making America safe for Corporate Plunder)

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#6 Jan 4, 2012
@exitde, "Paul would not be good for this country, especially his foreign policy ideas." @Chiefbuck,"The world is a dangerous place and if one is unaware and unwilling to recognize that fact, they certainly would not be able to serve as a responsible president.
Just as the present situation proves, the first priority of any leader should be national security then the economy and jobs. " These are precisely the basic conditions that make Ron Paul's Old Right anti-imperialist, decentralized umpire state republic position so popular and strong. If the 'first priority of any leader should be national security' then to avoid spending precious US capital,blood ,and treasures on foreign adventures and quests for empire would be a leader's prime responsibility to the national security. It has deep roots in American political tradition going back to our first President George Washington's farewell warning to the nation on the dangers of 'entangling alliances' It is precisely because international relations are a dangerous, violent, anarchic state of war that the American republic should reduce its involvement in it as much as possible. The more America is involved on a global scale the more likely that we will be dragged into foreign wars and entangled conflicts where we don't belong and where our own vital interests are not threatened. Also, Ron Paul's belief that we must begin the task of dismantling the US military-industrial complex is the precondition for also dismantling the welfare state bureaucracy(The welfare state was the outgrowth from the US expansionary imperialist quest for global dominance. Imperialist goals are incompatible with limited republican goals . No state can pay for both and survive.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Bluffton, SC

#7 Jan 4, 2012
With the win by Romney and a second place by Santorum I think we have pretty much set the course. The far left can believe their fairy tale talking points, you know, the one that the R's are fractured etc. Uh huh, sure we are, once the candidate is selected we will NOT do what we did last time, sit on our hands and hand over the election to Obama. Enough of the country is ready to get him out of office, 4 more years of his far left policy will completely ruin what is left of America. Just look to Europe to see what the Social Progressive parties have achieved. Crushing debt, nanny state bills unsuportable, not enough rich to tax anymore and general unrest by UNIONS unwilling to take a little responsibility for themselves in order to balance the budget. Obama has so much baggage now that only the far left will stand by him. Iran now has the beginnings of a bomb, another 1/2 BILLION wasted on government investments in green energy as ANOTHER solar company goes belly up, his pie in the sky Highspeed Train plan going bust as even CA finds they can't afford it. Puttng off doing ANYTHING definite about Iran for 6 months, putting off doing anything about the pipe line and ton of jobs until after the election. Voting PRESENT is not leading it's marking time. What does he have to show for 3 years (since he is taking off the 4th one) other than a health care plan no one likes and the fact that he stood aside and let the military take out Bin Laden when they found him? Not much to point back to.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#8 Jan 4, 2012
@Ballybunion," With the win by Romney and a second place by Santorum I think we have pretty much set the course. The far left can believe their fairy tale talking points, you know, the one that the R's are fractured etc." I don't know anything about 'far-left fairy tales',but I can recognize a butthead who doesn't want to see the truth. Denying the fractures in the GOP doesn't make it any less true and does nothing to help heal the divisions. Mitt Romney spent millions of campaign donations in Iowa and only beat Rick Santorum(a late-comer and candidate with far less money than Romney) by only 8 votes. That's a pretty high price to pay for a meager 8 votes. The Republican candidate needs to muster over 51% of Republican support to prove he can unite the party. Romney failed to do that as well as Santorum , Paul or Gingrich. Michelle Bachmann's announcement to 'suspend' her campaign won't help much since her supporters won't go for Romney(since they hate him),but more likely for Gingrich, a few to Paul, Perry, and Santorum which only fractures the divide more. Romney putting Ron Paul on the under-ticket might help the most by bringing in anti-imperialist, anti-government bureaucracy independents in the Romney camp ( the drawback ,of course ,is that it will look more like the Obama/Biden camp too) If both parties 'look' the same, most voters will go for continuity rather than change.
Pikecreek 19808

Philadelphia, PA

#9 Jan 10, 2012
frontporchreactionary wrote:
I believe that President Obama was smiling at the results of the Iowa vote last night. Iowa clearly showed that Republicans have not resolved the badly splintering of their political party yet. The equally -divided support for Romney(The New Right tough love Reagan New Dealers ); Ron Paul (Old Right, anti-imperialist, decentralized umpire state) Rick Santorum( Moral Majority); and least favorable Newt Gingrich(Supply-Siders--Making America safe for Corporate Plunder)
Couldn't have said it better Frontporch. These Conservatives Tea Party fascists just don't understand. When you dead, lie down! Anyway, thanks for a great post!
Pikecreek 19808

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Jan 10, 2012
frontporchreactionary wrote:
@Ballybunion," With the win by Romney and a second place by Santorum I think we have pretty much set the course. The far left can believe their fairy tale talking points, you know, the one that the R's are fractured etc." I don't know anything about 'far-left fairy tales',but I can recognize a butthead who doesn't want to see the truth. Denying the fractures in the GOP doesn't make it any less true and does nothing to help heal the divisions. Mitt Romney spent millions of campaign donations in Iowa and only beat Rick Santorum(a late-comer and candidate with far less money than Romney) by only 8 votes. That's a pretty high price to pay for a meager 8 votes. The Republican candidate needs to muster over 51% of Republican support to prove he can unite the party. Romney failed to do that as well as Santorum , Paul or Gingrich. Michelle Bachmann's announcement to 'suspend' her campaign won't help much since her supporters won't go for Romney(since they hate him),but more likely for Gingrich, a few to Paul, Perry, and Santorum which only fractures the divide more. Romney putting Ron Paul on the under-ticket might help the most by bringing in anti-imperialist, anti-government bureaucracy independents in the Romney camp ( the drawback ,of course ,is that it will look more like the Obama/Biden camp too) If both parties 'look' the same, most voters will go for continuity rather than change.
Again, Frontproch, another brilliant post! And all BobbyJo,Blufton,SC, Golden Horseshoe, PNGreen, PinkandGreen, Get Serious, StayRight(Banned), Centaurus,and latest Balleybunion is post nasty icons. I wonder when they finally put her away if they will use "The Little Icons" as therapy for her, LOL.
Pikecreek 19808

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Jan 10, 2012
Ballybunion wrote:
With the win by Romney and a second place by Santorum I think we have pretty much set the course. The far left can believe their fairy tale talking points, you know, the one that the R's are fractured etc. Uh huh, sure we are, once the candidate is selected we will NOT do what we did last time, sit on our hands and hand over the election to Obama. Enough of the country is ready to get him out of office, 4 more years of his far left policy will completely ruin what is left of America. Just look to Europe to see what the Social Progressive parties have achieved. Crushing debt, nanny state bills unsuportable, not enough rich to tax anymore and general unrest by UNIONS unwilling to take a little responsibility for themselves in order to balance the budget. Obama has so much baggage now that only the far left will stand by him. Iran now has the beginnings of a bomb, another 1/2 BILLION wasted on government investments in green energy as ANOTHER solar company goes belly up, his pie in the sky Highspeed Train plan going bust as even CA finds they can't afford it. Puttng off doing ANYTHING definite about Iran for 6 months, putting off doing anything about the pipe line and ton of jobs until after the election. Voting PRESENT is not leading it's marking time. What does he have to show for 3 years (since he is taking off the 4th one) other than a health care plan no one likes and the fact that he stood aside and let the military take out Bin Laden when they found him? Not much to point back to.
You sound like a Tea Party, fascist, idiot, coward! Wait a minute, you are!
Your blind treasonous hatred of the Prez, is just making you look more and more foolish.It really does sound like racism, it is so irrational. You hate everything about him, even if it is for the good of the country. You are a disgusting anti-American coward. Go to North Korea or Iran.
Pikecreek 19808

Philadelphia, PA

#12 Jan 10, 2012
By the way, how are YOU going to survive 4 more years of Obama, baby? Because that is what is going to happen.
The Repub party has been hijacked by the Tea Party fascists, that is why they are fractured. That is why they are losing.

Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#13 Jan 10, 2012
Pikecreek 19808 wrote:
By the way, how are YOU going to survive 4 more years of Obama, baby? Because that is what is going to happen.
The Repub party has been hijacked by the Tea Party fascists, that is why they are fractured. That is why they are losing.
There will be no four more years, he's done. Barry Soetoro is toast, 42% approval rating today. The people will speak loud and clear in November, change is coming!

NOBAMA 2012

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#14 Jan 10, 2012
@exitde, "42% approval rating today." And No Republican primary candidate has been able to gain more than 25% of their own GOP party support let alone national support. Iowa was a three-way tie between Rick Santorum(gay and lesbian basher), Mitt (Bain Capital's Gordon Gekko) Romney,and Ron Paul (anti-war) ;Remember? You can add ;can't you exitde?

Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#15 Jan 10, 2012
frontporchreactionary wrote:
@exitde, "42% approval rating today." And No Republican primary candidate has been able to gain more than 25% of their own GOP party support let alone national support. Iowa was a three-way tie between Rick Santorum(gay and lesbian basher), Mitt (Bain Capital's Gordon Gekko) Romney,and Ron Paul (anti-war) ;Remember? You can add ;can't you exitde?
Yea, I can add, I can add the two minutes added to this clock the past two years, another Obama failure, and they gave the clown a peace prize! What a joke!

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/10/doo...

Actually I was talking about Obama's ratings, I don't think I mentioned anyone else.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#16 Jan 10, 2012
@exitde, "Actually I was talking about Obama's ratings, I don't think I mentioned anyone else. " That's you problem. You can't beat anyone with only 25% support of only your own party.

Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#17 Jan 10, 2012
frontporchreactionary wrote:
@exitde, "Actually I was talking about Obama's ratings, I don't think I mentioned anyone else. " That's you problem. You can't beat anyone with only 25% support of only your own party.
Well actually it's anybody but Obama in the end, so matter who wins the nomination they will get 100% support.

NOBAMA 2012

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#18 Jan 10, 2012
@exitde, "Well actually it's anybody but Obama in the end," So, for you ,the issues don't matter if only the eventual Republican candidate hates President Obama and can convince enough voters to vote for hatred of democrats. That's sure not very American of you.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Jan 10, 2012
What the far left fails, and fails every single time to acknowledge, is that we will all get behind the NON-Obama. We will NOT sit this one out and hand the election to Obama. O has already written off white middle class men, women are leaving him in droves and the media elites and far left bozo's and the black caucus will just not be enough to carry him over the line. Fine, the unemployment rate is NOW down to 8.5%, what's going to happen when all those seasonal workers are laid off, off those delivery men and women are laid off? Oh, yeah, it will climb right back toward 9% and if counted correctly, will once again climb toward 19% with minorities being at around 19% or higher the way they count unemployment now, really, they are going to come out and support one more democrat who talks the talk but just can't seem to walk the walk? They have been promising minorities the moon for decades, and where are they? Still in the exact same place, exactly where the Dem's. want them, DEPENDENT on one party for entitlements and support, rather than going with the party that would like "To teach them to fish" as the saying goes. Dependency or having the tools to take care of yourself, the way YOU want to? The choice is Dem. dependency or Repb. self assurance. I know which one I choose.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Jan 10, 2012
exitde wrote:
<quoted text>
Well actually it's anybody but Obama in the end, so matter who wins the nomination they will get 100% support.
NOBAMA 2012
Exactly, that's the minor point that the far left just can't seem to grasp. They are used to marching in lock-step no matter what, and just can't conceive that an entire class of voters will get behind someone who will replace the current president, no matter what, anyone will be better than what we have.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#21 Jan 10, 2012
exitde, Ballybunion, chiefbuck, I also notice now that Michele Bachmann is out(the last conservative woman candidate suspended her campaign along with Sarah Palin and Christine O'Donnell) there are only white, male ,macho Republican candidates in the running. The Republican party flirtation with the women in politics political party theme of 2008 was short-lived if not actually being left as still-born and dead. Don't women matter to Republicans anymore? Is it back to the kitchen or second-banana citizenship if you're a conservative woman? What would Alice Roosevelt Longworth think of this macho motley group of Republican candidate wannabes? "You can't make a souffle rise twice."
Alice Roosevelt Longworth

Since: Nov 11

Wilmington

#22 Jan 10, 2012
frontporchreactionary wrote:
exitde, Ballybunion, chiefbuck, I also notice now that Michele Bachmann is out(the last conservative woman candidate suspended her campaign along with Sarah Palin and Christine O'Donnell) there are only white, male ,macho Republican candidates in the running. The Republican party flirtation with the women in politics political party theme of 2008 was short-lived if not actually being left as still-born and dead. Don't women matter to Republicans anymore? Is it back to the kitchen or second-banana citizenship if you're a conservative woman? What would Alice Roosevelt Longworth think of this macho motley group of Republican candidate wannabes? "You can't make a souffle rise twice."
Alice Roosevelt Longworth
You do realize you have yet to post one intelligent reason why Obama deserves a second term (or to be in office in the first place).........that must be because there isn't any. He is a failed experiment on his way out. Nov. 2012 is coming, and this time there will be change, change America can survive with.

NOBAMA 2012

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