The Geography of Gun Deaths

Jul 20, 2012 Full story: www.theatlantic.com 46

Terrible tragedies like last week's mass shootings in Tucson cause us to search for deeper answers. Many were quick to blame America's divisive and vitriolic political culture for the violence; others portray the shooter as an unhinged, clinically deranged person with his own unfathomable agenda. Arizona has been ground zero for the battle over immigration. Were the state's political and economic travails a contributing factor? There has been some talk about guns, too. Might tighter gun control laws have made a difference?

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Gravediggers

United States

#1 Jul 20, 2012
ah, yes, it's 'Mr Bill' and his biased,slanted articles on Topix. Amazing how he gets them on this site SO frequently.

“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#2 Jul 20, 2012
Gravediggers wrote:
ah, yes, it's 'Mr Bill' and his biased,slanted articles on Topix. Amazing how he gets them on this site SO frequently.
what's amazing is, that idiot bill hasn't tried to link the shooter to the romney campaign...

he will, though ... he will!
beasley

Dallas, TX

#3 Jul 20, 2012
Yep, he loves to dance in the blood of victims.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#4 Jul 20, 2012
Gravediggers wrote:
ah, yes, it's 'Mr Bill' and his biased,slanted articles on Topix. Amazing how he gets them on this site SO frequently.
Where is the "bias" you speak of?

Do you assert these numbers are wrong?
Do you believe the wrong colors were used?

What is your point?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#5 Jul 20, 2012
It's a shame that you have to get as old and senile as Mr. Bill is. The communist wind blows strong through his sails.

“bar0ckalypse N0W”

Since: Mar 10

Huntington Station, NY

#6 Jul 20, 2012
Agreed.

Liberals shouldn't be allowed to own guns or vote.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7 Jul 20, 2012
Liberals in NJ voted for McGreevy and then Corzine. Enough said. They shouldn't even be allowed to DRIVE.
Robert

Hollywood, FL

#8 Jul 20, 2012
Gravediggers wrote:
ah, yes, it's 'Mr Bill' and his biased,slanted articles on Topix. Amazing how he gets them on this site SO frequently.
You re right, very sloppy statistics. But expected out of mr bill, gets boring after a while, just hope he does not think he is fair and balanced that would be more inaccurate then his statics.
Osama Obama

Newburg, PA

#9 Jul 20, 2012
Its the people stupid,not the guns.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#10 Jul 20, 2012
Thank you, my little fan club.

But AGAIN, you do not have a point, so I am just interrupting a FOXLIES circle jerk.
As you were, jerk-boys. Clean up after.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#11 Jul 20, 2012
Editor's Note: An earlier ABC News broadcast report suggested that a Jim Holmes of a Colorado Tea Party organization might be the suspect, but that report was incorrect. ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted.
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ABC news and Mr. Bill are perfect together.
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is the "bias" you speak of?
Do you assert these numbers are wrong?
Do you believe the wrong colors were used?
What is your point?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#12 Jul 20, 2012
It turns out that James Holmes is just another liberal from California.
Robert

Hollywood, FL

#13 Jul 20, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is the "bias" you speak of?
Do you assert these numbers are wrong?
Do you believe the wrong colors were used?
What is your point?
The only valid statistic in the whole article is the distribution by state of the number of incidents of firearm deaths. The rest of it is trash.

"we charted the statistical correlations between firearm deaths and a variety of psychological, economic, social, and political characteristics of states"

States don't have psychological, economic, social or political characteristics, people or groups of people dodo. Even in cases of groups of people where the majority of the population have one of these characteristics that doe not mean the whole state does. For example Nevada has a population of 2.7 million people, approx 1.1 million voted for McCain so it is considered a McCain state based on 35% of the population. The shootings per 100,000 are based on the entire population the political affiliation of the state is based only on voters.

You could not hope to make a correlation without knowing the political affiliation of the shooters.

Of course the poster may not have been referring to the statistics in the article but the statistical correlation between mr bill and articles with a liberal slant.
CHECK SIX

North Port, FL

#14 Jul 20, 2012
No LOONS Mention CHICAGO with Gun Killings rivaling a WAR ZONE!...Not a Word By LEFT WING LOON NUTS!....Chicago! With Strict LOON GUN LAWS is a FLOP!.Gun Laws UNENFORCEABLE...Ditto for the Nations Capital..Blocks from the White House..Strict Gun Control,and ITS MURDER IN THE STREETS!.

.The Drug Crazes Monkey Faces need no Gun Controls...They Control Illegal Guns!...This along with Illegal Drugs!....No Law will stem the tide or the madness of those who would commit crime with them....So all this BS De Ja Vu Gun Control Crap is just that...LOONY BS!...A Feeble Attempt By AH LOONS!to once again attack our 2nd Amendment Rights....It Will Not Work!!....

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#15 Jul 20, 2012
Robert wrote:
<quoted text>
The only valid statistic in the whole article is the distribution by state of the number of incidents of firearm deaths. The rest of it is trash.
"we charted the statistical correlations between firearm deaths and a variety of psychological, economic, social, and political characteristics of states"
States don't have psychological, economic, social or political characteristics, people or groups of people dodo. Even in cases of groups of people where the majority of the population have one of these characteristics that doe not mean the whole state does. For example Nevada has a population of 2.7 million people, approx 1.1 million voted for McCain so it is considered a McCain state based on 35% of the population. The shootings per 100,000 are based on the entire population the political affiliation of the state is based only on voters.
You could not hope to make a correlation without knowing the political affiliation of the shooters.
Of course the poster may not have been referring to the statistics in the article but the statistical correlation between mr bill and articles with a liberal slant.
True after a fashion, but if you broke down shootings per 100K in Nevada, do you really perport that these statistics would look better for those who voted for the naturalized citizen from Panama if you broke down the state statistic to individuyals?

I think not.
Yet, that is only informed opinion, not fact.
And yet, it is obvious.
Osama Obama

Newburg, PA

#16 Jul 20, 2012
Obumma and Eric withholder didn't mind arming Mexican criminals.

“bar0ckalypse N0W”

Since: Mar 10

Huntington Station, NY

#17 Jul 20, 2012
Eighthman wrote:
Editor's Note: An earlier ABC News broadcast report suggested that a Jim Holmes of a Colorado Tea Party organization might be the suspect, but that report was incorrect. ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted.
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ABC news and Mr. Bill are perfect together.<quoted text>
Journalism is dead.

They were quick to point out he was WHITE though.

You can't find the race of any perp here in the NY papers anymore. It's too incendiary because they're almost always black. Often times even the race of the victim goes unreported. There's been a lot of anti-semitic violence here lately, and I'm really only hearing about it from my friends in the NYPD. The rabbis are pissed. I bet they start importing Israeli security.
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#18 Jul 20, 2012
MORE GUNS, not less guns will stop nut cases like this from being so successful with their carnage.

The guy would have been DEAD so fast, he wouldn't have known what hit him.

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#19 Jul 20, 2012
Geesh, Bill, I see you've attracted an entire wing of the psych hospital.

You know if you put the word Gun or Obama in the title of your post you'll get them all riled up. Now the nurses are going to have to spend the entire afternoon giving them all extra lithium.
Gravediggers

United States

#20 Jul 20, 2012
It's the continual slanted and biased article presented by 'Mr Bill'.

Let's not forget Robert Krentz the AZ rancher GUNNED down by illegals on his OWN (oops, not for long with Obama and his collective mentality) property/ranch.

Ofcourse, not mentioned is the black on brown carnage in California, nor the brutally occurring DAILY in Chicago, Obama's hometown.

It's not guns, it's the crazed people who have them.

Beware of groups who seek to remove your ability to protect yourself, your family and your home.

The police can't be everywhere, citizens need to be prepared.

'Mr Bill', if it ever happens that someone enters your home, while you are present, let's hope the police get there, before anything happens to you or your family.

The police can't be everywhere, all the time.

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