VA to Receive $142,600 from Google Settlement

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Virginia will receive about $142,600 from a national $7 million settlement with Google over the company's collection of emails and other sensitive data sent over wireless networks several years ago.
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Gnu

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Mar 15, 2013
 
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What law did they break?
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Most people password protect networks. Most routers come that way by default.
They reached a 'settlement'
http://business.time.com/2013/03/13/did-googl...
"The company explained that when the Street View program launched, the team inadvertently included code in their software that “sampled all categories of publicly broadcast WiFi data,” even though the project leaders did not want the more comprehensive data. As soon as Google discovered the practice, it grounded the Street View cars and separated and secured the data on its network.
Law enforcement officials and privacy advocates were outraged, and for nearly three years, Google has been working with the authorities on a settlement.“We work hard to get privacy right at Google,” the company said in an emailed statement.“But in this case we didn’t, which is why we quickly tightened up our systems to address the issue. The project leaders never wanted this data, and didn’t use it or even look at it. We’re pleased to have worked with Connecticut Attorney General George Jepsen and the other state attorneys general to reach this agreement.”
Think I'll run over to your curbside mailbox and sample some of the "data" in your letters. The mailbox isn't locked, it's on public property, and I'm just sampling the contents of your letters. I know you'll understand.
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"even the FCC said the company’s data capturing wasn’t illegal, since the networks in question were effectively public "
http://gigaom.com/2012/05/01/google-wi-fi-sno...
if you're dumb enough to leave your network open...
I'll just set up across the street from your house on public property, aim high res cameras at you inside your house (they can see thru walls) and use audio recording devices to "see" what's going on. You okay with that. I don't really "want the 'data'", but it's there in the public domain...Did I cross any lines? And if you are "dumb enough to leave your" curtains open, I could still be busted for "peeping".
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Gnu wrote:
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Open networks are a HUGE risk; think about that next time you log onto a public access point. If you have to use public, make sure you have a good firewall and never use their Wi-Fi for sensitive material.
I'd say frequency of data being stolen over public wi-fi is about a likely as being hit by a car. Most criminals are not logging millions of bits of data at a public hot spot, waiting for someone to log into their bank account. Credit card and bank account numbers are mostly gleened from skimming physical cards at stores, restaurants, hotels, etc.; plain 'ole inside jobs at the point of sale. Rather than public wifi, I'd be more concerned about utility companies and online stores which have have your credit card or bank info stored on their servers. That's the hacker's jackpot.
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real central va Marine wrote:
<quoted text>I'll just set up across the street from your house on public property, aim high res cameras at you inside your house (they can see thru walls) and use audio recording devices to "see" what's going on. You okay with that. I don't really "want the 'data'", but it's there in the public domain...Did I cross any lines? And if you are "dumb enough to leave your" curtains open, I could still be busted for "peeping".
come 'n get it
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you'll be wasting your time, nothing to see here
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and that's the argument against most zombie phobias
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Think I'll run over to your curbside mailbox and sample some of the "data" in your letters. The mailbox isn't locked, it's on public property, and I'm just sampling the contents of your letters. I know you'll understand.
the mailbox is on my property and there happens to be a federal law against beaking into it, unlike your bits floating through the airwaves into my antennae on the public street
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the mailbox is on my property and there happens to be a federal law against beaking into it, unlike your bits floating through the airwaves into my antennae on the public street
Me thinks thou protest too much ...
There are federal and state laws (in all 50 states) addressing the issue of unauthorized access to wireless networks. The laws vary widely between states. Some criminalize the mere unauthorized access of a network, while others require monetary damages for intentional breaching of security features.
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Me thinks thou protest too much ...
There are federal and state laws (in all 50 states) addressing the issue of unauthorized access to wireless networks. The laws vary widely between states. Some criminalize the mere unauthorized access of a network, while others require monetary damages for intentional breaching of security features.
You're the one protesting but not coming up with anything substantial, just weak accusations like 'intentional breaching'.
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You've yet to answer my question: What law did google break?
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Here's the real issue: Wasting my taxes suing google is absurd poochmania. His motivation is political name recognition and bribes, er,'donations'(Microsoft (Bing):
http://www.followthemoney.org/database/unique...

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I can't think of a company that has made my life easier, and at no cost to me. The internet would be a tedious chore without google search, maps, gmail (spam filters no ka oi), google drive, google voice (free voip I've been using for years), google news, google reader (about to be discontinued :(, google sites....
I wish google picked C'ville instead of KC for its startup fiber city (comcarp and centurylink suux). The innovations from this company are nothing short of astounding, so I don't begrudge at all their 'invasive' commercialism which finances so many free services I use every day. It's a big brother trade-off that google pulls off with finesse compared to the in-your-face annoying ads targeted from your browsing history found right here on topix and nbc29's website.
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I saw their street-view car coming down my street and waved while it filmed me, my house, my car, the license plate on my car and yes, they probably recorded my SSID beacon and maybe even some (gasp) encrypted chunks of data... but there is no evidence whatsoever that google was slurping this to use it illegally. Even if they had some evil intentions, what do you really think they could do with a few recorded seconds of your precious data, seriously?
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You're the one protesting but not coming up with anything substantial, just weak accusations like 'intentional breaching'.
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You've yet to answer my question: What law did google break?
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Here's the real issue: Wasting my taxes suing google is absurd poochmania. His motivation is political name recognition and bribes, er,'donations'(Microsoft (Bing):
http://www.followthemoney.org/database/unique...
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I can't think of a company that has made my life easier, and at no cost to me. The internet would be a tedious chore without google search, maps, gmail (spam filters no ka oi), google drive, google voice (free voip I've been using for years), google news, google reader (about to be discontinued :(, google sites....
I wish google picked C'ville instead of KC for its startup fiber city (comcarp and centurylink suux). The innovations from this company are nothing short of astounding, so I don't begrudge at all their 'invasive' commercialism which finances so many free services I use every day. It's a big brother trade-off that google pulls off with finesse compared to the in-your-face annoying ads targeted from your browsing history found right here on topix and nbc29's website.
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I saw their street-view car coming down my street and waved while it filmed me, my house, my car, the license plate on my car and yes, they probably recorded my SSID beacon and maybe even some (gasp) encrypted chunks of data... but there is no evidence whatsoever that google was slurping this to use it illegally. Even if they had some evil intentions, what do you really think they could do with a few recorded seconds of your precious data, seriously?
True, Google has amazing apps and features, but looks like they like to snoop for personal/private data without consent - curious bunch those Google folks are ....

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Latest-News...

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/428485/2013...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-57402965-24...

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