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Florida ACT scores fall, state ranks 48th nationally -- Orlando...

There are 32 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Aug 14, 2007, titled Florida ACT scores fall, state ranks 48th nationally -- Orlando.... In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Florida's average composite score on the ACT college entrance test dropped 0.4 point to 19.9 this year to rank 48th nationally, according to results released early Wednesday.

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#21 May 15, 2008
I had a 15 on my act and i was wondering could i substitute that if i failed the reading fcat??????Would i be able to get my high school diploma??

Dayton, OH

#22 Jul 2, 2008
Laura wrote:
Luke - you hit the nail on the head. As a mother with an 8th grader with mostly A's and B's and an occasional C and never anything lower - I am in a fight for her future at this moment because of this "failed plan". She freezes and does not do well on the FCAT so therefore, it does not matter that her entire 7th grade year she received straight A's in reading. She is being placed in an intensive reading class irregardless of her actual day to day performance. I have also been advised in my numerous phone calls yesterday that among other arrogant things said - unfortunately, my daughter is "just one who slipped through the cracks". The sad thing is that I actually went in and spoke with her principle at the beginning of summer and was assured that she would not be placed in intensive classes. After receiving her schedule yesterday and approaching the principle I was told there was nothing he could do and the only way my daughter would go into an advanced class was to put her in a private school. My other favorite comment was that they were responsible for my daughter. Last I checked, I am ultimately responsible for my daughter, her wellbeing and her future. Not the school board or the state of Florida. I am also very appreciative of the numerous county/state officials for whom I have left messages for and have heard from none of them except the school superindentant. Their secretaries or office staff we happy to tell me about law. The school superintendent was the only person I spoke to that spoke to me as a parent rather than reading to me from a book that each sentance starts with “Florida Law Mandates.” Our elected and appointed officials are putting so much emphasis on the FCAT that our teachers, most of whom are awesome and underpaid individuals, are not able to teach what really matters. I hope that these ACT statistics FINALLY wake someone up. We have a serious issue that needs to be addressed and FAST. By the way, my daughter is not a “minority” that the one official that was unavailable to speak to me referred to. She is a blonde haired, blue eyed caucasian so I would guess that they may need to spin the wheel and point a finger in another direction. Eventually they will get it pointed in the right direction.
Hey dumb bitch that is because your kid is a fucking idiot. If she goes to a public school and gets straight A's thats means jack shit. I went to a public school for 2 years and i never took a book home. During that time I had straight A's and got student of the month award. Then I went to a private school, and i actually had to learn and work for my grades. If your stupid daughter can't take an easy ass test made for people to pass easily then she does not deserve to go to college. So grow up you idiot, there are smart people who really can handle college who didn't get the grades in high school. Plus GPAs are relative to their respective schools and standardized testing gives everybody an equal and fair playing field.
New Yorker

Longs, SC

#23 Jul 5, 2008
Ken Carpenter wrote:
By the way, how about a mention of Nos. 1, 2 and 3?
I'm going to guess -- 1) Rhode Island; 2) Vermont; 3) New Hampshire.
Nope, here they are:

1. Mass.
2. Conn.
3. Washington
4. NY

United States

#24 Jul 6, 2008
test scores wrote:
48th. nice... wasn't jeb bush the "education governor"?
It doesn't matter, all the good ACT scores get deleted in California anyway!

Everything else is runners-up now. They should start deleting SATs, too. Make it equal and all, you know.

United States

#25 Jul 11, 2008
dggttr wrote:
<quoted text>It doesn't matter, all the good ACT scores get deleted in California anywy.
What are you saying? That really good ACT scores get deleted for no reason in California, and the poor students who have their scores deleted without them even knowing about it get messed with the rest of their lives? How terrible! Do you know someone who this happened to? Come now, tell us all about the injustice!

Well, I just don't know what to think now.

Daytona Beach, FL

#26 Jul 11, 2008
test scores wrote:
48th. nice... wasn't jeb bush the "education governor"?
Yep, that would be the governor whose wife strolled thru a US Customs check point and forgot to claim of $10,000.00 in purchases. Ops, she no speaka Ingelsia

United States

#27 Jul 20, 2008
wrrth wrote:
tell us all about the injustice!
Well, I just don't know what to think now.
And fired! They even fire people who have had their ACT score deleted for no reason other than hiding the whole ACT score deletion racket! That's right! Would you believe it? It's hard to, I know, but on the West Coast if you've had your ACT score deleted they fire you for no reason at all, and mess with your investments! It's so hard to believe, but read about what happened to Executive Life Insurance Company! That's what happens to someone whose ACT score's been deleted.

That's why ACT score deletion is supposed to be illegal! ACT score deletion must be stopped, as the people behind it are using their scholastic tampering to further their own criminal gains! They're even in political office, it's that bad.

Jeb Bush? Why, his father was president when Executive Life was seized and after a bunch of ACT scores were deleted! Why is this Florida ACT score article here, anyway?
Florida High Schools suck

Roseville, CA

#28 Aug 15, 2008
I grew up in New York and can vouch for the quality of a high school education there. Put in Florida, they have incompentent teachers at all levels. My kid was in an Honors class that not a single student was able to get above a C grade. NOT ONE STUDENT. We've met with the teacher on several occassions and we were floored by how inadequate he was to be teaching.
brendon gerry

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#29 Apr 15, 2009
hey guys im a highschool student and just to inform most people, kids take the act to subsitute the fcat. i took the act to subsitute my fcat and asked everyone basicaly taking the test why are they they taking itand most of them said because i need it to gradeuate most of the schools in florida are rated double or triple A schools its the tests like fcat that our bringing us down. get rid of fcat and get a better education plan and there we go!

Kissimmee, FL

#30 Apr 15, 2009
Keep teaching solely so that you make your bonuses when your students squeak by with a passing FCAT grade. It is doing wonders. They graduate but they can't spell, can not add or subtract without a calculator, and wouldn't know true literature if it hit them over the head.

Great Work School Boards...those fingerprint id systems are doing wonders for education!

Indianapolis, IN

#31 May 17, 2009
childless mines
Susan Illinois

Carol Stream, IL

#32 May 23, 2011
la la wrote:
<quoted text>
No, no, no. "They" aren't saying it is the minorities to blame. Our education commissioner is saying it. If you ask a teacher or counselor, they will explain that we have a higher percentage of low level learners across the board taking the exam to substitute for the FCAT. When every other state has college bound seniors taking the exam and we have students from all learning levels taking the exam, of course our scores are going to look poor. Just another example of the people in Tallahassee not knowing squat about what is really going on in the high schools.
Not true in Ilinois. All high school juniors take the ACT, not just college bound students and we score much higher than Florida. Could it be due to the lack of public support for public education in your state? Your teachers are one of the lowest paid educators nation-wide and now, as Jeb Bush touted recently in the Chicago Tribune, your state has mandated merit pay and outlawed unions. Jeb still sees your school system as a model for the nation. Maybe Jeb needs to get an education on this matter from someplace other than Florida.

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