State House Votes To Abolish Death Penalty

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The state House of Representatives voted to abolish the death penalty on Wednesday - the fourth anniversary of the execution of serial killer Michael Ross - and instead impose life in prison without the possibility of release.

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“Born & raised in Connecticut”

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As I said the other day here, if people want to abolish the death penalty, I support that.

I agree with Cafero and Lawlor, it really isn't a deterrent for those in the heat of the moment and it's also no deterrent for those who kill in a premeditated manner.

People who actually believe that killing someone solves their problems are defective to begin with and I doubt that anyone who places so little value on human life gives a damn about whether or not there's a death penalty on the books.

Has the death penalty resulted in less gun violence in Connecticut or anywhere else for that matter?
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we need a vigilante like Charles Bronson out there.

I dont want to support these bad eggs.
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Ct. needs to have the Death Penalty, not abolish it! Let the voters decide in a referedum on this topic.

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The death penalty would certainly be more of a deterrent if it were enforced more frequently.

I agree that it isn't much of a deterrent when it isn't imposed. Much like the "wait until your father gets home" in a single parent household.
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>>>"I think it's a little dangerous to give that power to the government," Lawlor said in the Hall of the House. "Before you know it, you're executing people for political reasons."<<<<

So what you're say is, you don't trust lawyers? My feelings also.
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Are you CRAZY! Out of you minds? What the hell is going on in Hartford where they have time to sit around making jailbirds lives better when they deserve to be put to death when it is PROVEN that they took someone's life?
That man, I'm sorry, I forgot his name, but the one that was let out of jail because it was PROVEN that he did NOT do the crime, yes, there are people like that, BUT there are also those two scumbags in Cheshire that were CAUGHT at the house in the car they stole. THEM, no they do not deserve to sit in jail for the rest of their lives eating, seeing family going to church, watching TV. FTS. Burn their asses. PERIOD.
Get with it Connecticut. Be like Texas where they actually have the BALLS to do what the law says.
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It may not be a deterrent, but if that killer is put to death, you know for sure he will not kill anyone else. Unlike other prisoners who escape and go on killing sprees.
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As I said the other day here, if people want to abolish the death penalty, I support that.
I agree with Cafero and Lawlor, it really isn't a deterrent for those in the heat of the moment and it's also no deterrent for those who kill in a premeditated manner.
People who actually believe that killing someone solves their problems are defective to begin with and I doubt that anyone who places so little value on human life gives a damn about whether or not there's a death penalty on the books.
Has the death penalty resulted in less gun violence in Connecticut or anywhere else for that matter?
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In these kinds of debates, there is almost always at least one death penalty supporter who says something like "this isn't about vengeance, it's about justice," and then doesn't bother to explain. It seems to me that "justice" and "vengeance" have the same meaning in this context, i.e., you kill, we kill you.
Am I missing something, or is this just another example of PC word choice?
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People want to assume putting someone to death for crime(s) they have committed will automatically send them to hell for an eternity.......thats a pretty big assumption
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The DP in CT is like life anyway. The only way they impose it is if you beg for it. Personally I think they can all be put to death today and save me some tax dollars.
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Do you remember why they strengthened the death penalty 10 years ago?

His name was Brian Aselton.

Brian was the 26 year old Police Officer from East Hartford who was shot point blank in the head by Alex Sostre who had a rap sheet a mile long. Sostre said he would never go back to prison again and would kill any cop who tried to stop him.

Never forget State Trooper Russell Bagshaw.

Bagshaw was murdered in 1991 when he was shot (16 rounds in six seconds) by Terry Johnson during an attempted burglary at the Land and Sea Sports Center in North Windham. Johnson “expressed satisfaction with the murder" in conversations after the fact.

The jury sentenced Johnson to death. The Connecticut State Supreme Court overturned that sentence and gave Johnson a life term because the crime really wasn’t “especially cruel and heinous” enough for the Court’s liking.

The Court reasoned that because Trooper Bagshaw remained conscious for ONLY five to ninety seconds and that he ONLY lived between one and fifteen minutes after being shot while drowning in his own blood that “There was no evidence that the defendant (Johnson) had a quicker or less painful method available to him to cause death faster or with less pain.” Therefore it wasn’t “especially cruel and heinous” and did not warrant the death penalty.

If criminals of this statue know that killing a police officer was punishable by death I do believe it would be a deterrent.

How many of you anti-death penalty people out there would go to work every day knowing it could be your last.
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tired of it all wrote:
So now the tax payers will pay to house and feed these animals for the rest of their lives???
We house them anyway. 20 years of appeals and free legal counsel cost more than just housing them till they get shanked. We don't put people to death in Ct. so we should stop pretending we do. It's cheaper.
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If we're going to keep it on the books, then use it. Otherwise, we're just wasting time and taxpayer money, and giving victims false hopes.
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Thank you legislature. The death penalty is state-sponsored murder and it's wrong. The death penalty is also wrong because it could allow for the execution of a wrongly convicted person, which would be the ultimate injustice.

Additionally, pro-death people, stop fooling yourselves into thinking the death penalty is a deterrent. Most individuals crazy enough to commit a heinous murder are not going to worry about the death penalty. Many of these people are delusional sociopaths who think they're smarter than the authorities.
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Dont be fooled. The real issue here is that other states have had people on death row and probably killed people that were later found to be totally innocent.

The death penalty is a good thing if you use it quickly and only on situations where there is zero doubt of who the killers are. Why are the animals that killed the family in Cheshire still alive even today? With a workable death penalty they would have been killed already. I know that I would have to get some therapy after doing it but if the state needed me to pour gasoline on them and light a match, or put a bullet in each of their heads, I would gladly do that.
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It will take a long time to wean us culturally away from our blood lust and vengenance psche. Society should hold itself out as an example, though, Lawlor is right. The government should not be in the business of killing people -- no matter what they've done. Life in prison at hard labor, that's my solution. And it's much cheaper to boot. For those of you in favor of the death penalty, you are mistaken to think that those of us who oppose it don't feel the same rage you do toward people who commit heinous and depraved acts. We do. I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the animals as a general matter.
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tired of it all wrote:
So now the tax payers will pay to house and feed these animals for the rest of their lives???
THEY say it cost more to house and care for deathrow inmates than it does for regular inmates. I say STREAMLINE THE SYSTEM! and send them on thier way. If we're wrong God will make it up to them.
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Stop this deterrent crap please

The issue is that if prison life was horrific there would be no reason for the death penalty. These people live better than most homeless people. Make prison for death penalty people like a North Korean work camp or a Soviet gulag and you wouldnt need the death penalty. People want the death penalty because prison although not a place I would want to be, is not what it could be due to ACLU law suits for prisoner rights.
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Never Forget wrote:
Do you remember why they strengthened the death penalty 10 years ago?
His name was Brian Aselton.
Brian was the 26 year old Police Officer from East Hartford who was shot point blank in the head by Alex Sostre who had a rap sheet a mile long. Sostre said he would never go back to prison again and would kill any cop who tried to stop him.
Never forget State Trooper Russell Bagshaw.
Bagshaw was murdered in 1991 when he was shot (16 rounds in six seconds) by Terry Johnson during an attempted burglary at the Land and Sea Sports Center in North Windham. Johnson “expressed satisfaction with the murder" in conversations after the fact.
The jury sentenced Johnson to death. The Connecticut State Supreme Court overturned that sentence and gave Johnson a life term because the crime really wasn’t “especially cruel and heinous” enough for the Court’s liking.
The Court reasoned that because Trooper Bagshaw remained conscious for ONLY five to ninety seconds and that he ONLY lived between one and fifteen minutes after being shot while drowning in his own blood that “There was no evidence that the defendant (Johnson) had a quicker or less painful method available to him to cause death faster or with less pain.” Therefore it wasn’t “especially cruel and heinous” and did not warrant the death penalty.
If criminals of this statue know that killing a police officer was punishable by death I do believe it would be a deterrent.
How many of you anti-death penalty people out there would go to work every day knowing it could be your last.
You are absolutely right. The screaming liberals in this country are the direct cause of the moral decay that rips at the very fiber of what once was a great country. If you are 100% sure the crime has been commited like in the Cheshire home invasion, burn them and right away!!!!
STUCK IN CT

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keep it,until we make these dirtbags afraid to commit crimes nothing will change..we should have a zero tolerance.never see it in this kiss ass state

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