Ct lady

West Haven, CT

#11563 Jan 25, 2013
Check out Henry Berry's blog "Corruption in the Fairfield Ct.judicial system."
Rick

United States

#11564 Jan 25, 2013
Video games used as propaganda, probably creating organized stalking mentality as well.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/01/govern...
Rick

San Francisco, CA

#11567 Jan 25, 2013
Eleanor White wrote:
<quoted text>
Now I recognize the name, but I don't know him. Also, even though "Waterloo" may occasionally show under my name, I live nowhere near Waterloo.
Eleanor White
I like the name Waterloo.
Eleanor White

Atikokan, Canada

#11568 Jan 25, 2013
Rick wrote:
<quoted text>
I like the name Waterloo.
Actually, I notice that my posts have been labelled "Kitchener."

Kitchener and Waterloo are next to one another.

Eleanor White
Lillith

Anonymous Proxy

#11569 Jan 26, 2013
What is the Electronic Reading Room?

The FOIA Electronic Reading Room is provided as a public service by the CIA and its Office of Information Management. Here you can view previously released documents, released through the FOIA and other disclosure statutes. If you would like to view our previously released documents and collections, visit our Frequently Requested Records, our Special Collections, and our 25 Year Program Archive.
https://www.cia.gov/library/foia/index.html
Rick

Lemoore, CA

#11570 Jan 26, 2013
Eleanor White wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I notice that my posts have been labelled "Kitchener."
Kitchener and Waterloo are next to one another.
Eleanor White
Oh. It's nice that topix tries to mask the place where you are.
Adrienne

Lemoore, CA

#11571 Jan 26, 2013
Thanks for this link. I'm sure everything I'd be interested in would be redacted.

Has a target ever sent away for any freedom of information act files on him or herself? I'm starting to think that I ought to in order to see what I've been accused of. I figure its drugs which is really bizarre if you know me. I can't even imagine that they would accuse me of child molestation. I know that the Mexicans have set me up for something. Ive been fired from jobs becuase of their ganging up. well, and i quit one job because8couodnt stand it. A long time ago one who worked at a pharmacy cash register was accusing me of going out on the street and selling the stuff I was taking for sleep. She was taken off the register after that but she wasn't fired. I wonder how long it takes the Feds to determine that you wouldn't have anything to do with the crime you are accused of and if anyone totals the man hours it takes to conduct manhunts off of false accusations. Last year the target employees were accusing me of theft and one followed me into a bathroom and stood in front of the stall staring at me while I was peeing. And I'm diabetic so she had to stand there a long time. I tried to outwait her to see if it was just a coincidence but she didn't move until I did. And if they hunt you for years and have to fire you then they have to let the people torture you to death, which is more fun than a pit bull or rooster fight.
carac

Sliema, Malta

#11572 Jan 26, 2013
I have been trying to do some changes here but strangely it is not recognizing my email address when i try to log into my account. My email address is the same one i use to receive posts!! Doesnt make sense..anybody knows what to do?
Ct lady

West Haven, CT

#11573 Jan 26, 2013
My ex-husband was able to access my son's FBI records. Allegedly he is listed as a terrorist. Absolutely absurd.However, perps haven't been bothering him for the past few years.

Perps have been tracking me and, since last Easter, using electronic torture devices on me.

Years ago I confronted a powerful attorney in CT and I suspect he put me on the list- that was some seven years ago. I would like to access my record as well and see what I am accused of doing which causes them to watch me 24/7 and scream obscenities when I walk by.
Ct lady

West Haven, CT

#11574 Jan 26, 2013
Wondering if OS can be considered a "hate crime."
Ct lady

West Haven, CT

#11575 Jan 26, 2013
One FBI website lists the following categories of persons to be watched:

"Last year on this website, we talked about animal rights extremists and eco-terrorists and our intelligence-driven approaches to stopping them. In the coming months, we’ll spotlight other homegrown terror groups to raise awareness on who they are and the threats they pose.

You can help. Be alert to potential signs of domestic terror plots and planning and contact us immediately with any information or leads.

Other domestic terror threats:
- Eco-terrorists and animal rights extremists
- Sovereign citizens movement
- Anarchist Extremism
- Militia Extremism
- White Supremacy Extremism"

<snip>
Eleanor White

Sudbury, Canada

#11576 Jan 26, 2013
Rick wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh. It's nice that topix tries to mask the place where you are.
I think you missed my post on the geographic places which appear under our names. At least in my case, those locations are NOT - repeat - NOT "where you are." They are apparently locations of major telephone system Internet handling servers, and they CHANGE, frequently, over a very wide area. In my case over the entire huge province of Ontario.

I don't think topix.com has anything to do with it. Locations shown are apparently the address headers in the data packets carried by different Internet servers.

Eleanor White
Eleanor White

Sudbury, Canada

#11577 Jan 26, 2013
Ct lady wrote:
Wondering if OS can be considered a "hate crime."
I'm sure it could, but our problem isn't what it's considered, rather, it's that almost no one thinks it is happening.

Occasionally, in the forums, I've heard targets report that members of the public more or less believed the target, but insisted that the target must have done something to deserve it.

Eleanor White

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#11578 Jan 26, 2013
Eleanor White wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure it could, but our problem isn't what it's considered, rather, it's that almost no one thinks it is happening.
Occasionally, in the forums, I've heard targets report that members of the public more or less believed the target, but insisted that the target must have done something to deserve it.
Eleanor White
I disagree with your first sentence. MANY people know it is happening, they just lie and say it is not. Why? Because many people are simply stupid and selfish. They would not like it if it were done to them but they will go along with ganging up on one other person when they are assured that that one person won't be able to fight back.

That's just the way some people are--until or unless someone has the huevos to blow the whistle and someone in the media has the huevos to openly and honestly publish the truth--naming names and giving the accused gangstalkers the opportunity to respond to the allegations. Til then, they will all wallow in their own cowardice, dropping hints that have no truth, like the pigs they are. No offense to pigs.

I have a question for you, Eleanor. In your 32 years as a target and 16 years doing activism, have you ever received materials (from whatever source) wherein you were asked to help "relay messages" to another target? For example, incorporate comments into your own writings or speeches?
Eleanor White

Sudbury, Canada

#11579 Jan 26, 2013
NoLiars wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree with your first sentence. MANY people know it is happening, they just lie and say it is not. Why? Because many people are simply stupid and selfish. They would not like it if it were done to them but they will go along with ganging up on one other person when they are assured that that one person won't be able to fight back.
I'd like to think that many people know, but in all of my experience doing face to face activism, the way I read spoken and body language makes me believe almost no one knows.

Of course, I'm Canadian and it may be different in the U.S., however, I doubt if the differences are large.
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NoLiars wrote:
I have a question for you, Eleanor. In your 32 years as a target and 16 years doing activism, have you ever received materials (from whatever source) wherein you were asked to help "relay messages" to another target? For example, incorporate comments into your own writings or speeches?
Yes. Typically, these are from people who are afraid to post or make public anything they composed. Typically, these folks are not aware that no form of communication is secure, even the spoken word in the middle of the desert.

That's about materials they want made public, often on the forums.

As to relaying to another target, yes to that too. Typically, this is from targets who want to convey material to someone with whom the sender has some sort of personality clash or similar problem.

Whether I do what they ask depends on many factors. Often I say no, and suggest they create a new Internet persona and do the passing on themselves.

If the information can be referred to a mainstream source which officials accept as true, and I judge it relevant (a lot of items sent to me are not relevant) there's a good chance I will use the item, including a reference to the source document.

Eleanor White

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#11580 Jan 26, 2013
Eleanor,
When I asked you about whether you have received materials asking you to communicate messages to another target, I'm asking whether you have ever been asked to participate in behavior that is duplicitious towards a target--because the source of the original message would not be you, it would be whoever came up with the message to be delivered. It would be done to disguise the identity of the message's originator. It would be a tactic a perp would use to harass his target ("why is Eleanor White saying the perp's words for him?").

Since you have been an activist on this subject for so long, it would not surprise me if you had been approached by a perp pretending to be something other than a perp. It would be a coup for a perp to be able to "use" you in such a manner. Considering how successful they are at manipulating so many people, I would not be surprised if a perp had--in some capacity--reached out to you in such a way at some point over the years. That's why I asked.
Eleanor White

Sudbury, Canada

#11582 Jan 26, 2013
NoLiars wrote:
Eleanor,
When I asked you about whether you have received materials asking you to communicate messages to another target, I'm asking whether you have ever been asked to participate in behavior that is duplicitious towards a target--because the source of the original message would not be you, it would be whoever came up with the message to be delivered. It would be done to disguise the identity of the message's originator. It would be a tactic a perp would use to harass his target ("why is Eleanor White saying the perp's words for him?").
Since you have been an activist on this subject for so long, it would not surprise me if you had been approached by a perp pretending to be something other than a perp. It would be a coup for a perp to be able to "use" you in such a manner. Considering how successful they are at manipulating so many people, I would not be surprised if a perp had--in some capacity--reached out to you in such a way at some point over the years. That's why I asked.
Oh, OK, no, I have never been approached by a anyone trying to get me to do something which would harass another target.

I've heard only a couple of cases where targets reported a perp tried to recruit them, but they were forum posts a long time ago and didn't give much detail.

One target reported her long time friend became a perp, and the target asked her friend why. The friend-turned-perp replied "because it's so hopeless," meaning, the world has been totally taken over by perps, and resistance is futile.

Eleanor White
Adrienne

United States

#11583 Jan 26, 2013
Ct lady wrote:
One FBI website lists the following categories of persons to be watched:
"Last year on this website, we talked about animal rights extremists and eco-terrorists and our intelligence-driven approaches to stopping them. In the coming months, we’ll spotlight other homegrown terror groups to raise awareness on who they are and the threats they pose.
You can help. Be alert to potential signs of domestic terror plots and planning and contact us immediately with any information or leads.
Other domestic terror threats:
- Eco-terrorists and animal rights extremists
- Sovereign citizens movement
- Anarchist Extremism
- Militia Extremism
- White Supremacy Extremism"
<snip>
Thanks ct lady. Guess now we know what made this years made for TV movies will be about.
Sid

United States

#11584 Jan 26, 2013
NoLiars wrote:
Eleanor,
When I asked you about whether you have received materials asking you to communicate messages to another target, I'm asking whether you have ever been asked to participate in behavior that is duplicitious towards a target--because the source of the original message would not be you, it would be whoever came up with the message to be delivered. It would be done to disguise the identity of the message's originator. It would be a tactic a perp would use to harass his target ("why is Eleanor White saying the perp's words for him?").
Since you have been an activist on this subject for so long, it would not surprise me if you had been approached by a perp pretending to be something other than a perp. It would be a coup for a perp to be able to "use" you in such a manner. Considering how successful they are at manipulating so many people, I would not be surprised if a perp had--in some capacity--reached out to you in such a way at some point over the years. That's why I asked.
How is she supposed to know for sure who is a perp and who isn't? None of us can. Your question might be a sneaky way of defaming her on this forum, for example. We don't know for sure that Eleanor is a target, too. Not that I want to discredit you Eleanor. QIt's just that I think in my research I've seen how the cia and FBI will create phony characters in order to put out some sort of Internet or media mass hysteria. There's a woman on the Internet who claims to have worked for the CIA doing something, I could never tell what. She went to a conference with some other CIA whistleblower s some who seemed credible and some who had really weird stories about being bob hopes secret prostitute or something. Ted gender son was there, supposedly angered this woman who said he was a fraud. There was also a man, a pilot, who seemed legit especially since he ended up getting murdered.
Eleanor White

Atikokan, Canada

#11585 Jan 27, 2013
Sid wrote:
<quoted text>
How is she supposed to know for sure who is a perp and who isn't?
I don't - that's why I replied "anyone."

Unless someone is a long-term repeating aggressor, and obviously shows they are harassing you intentionally, and sometimes that they clearly take pleasure in doing so, we can't know who is a genuine perp.

I don't waste my time and anguish trying to sort out perps from non-perps.

Instead, I size people up (people with some connection to OS/EH) by rating their observable words and actions based on how helpful their words and actions are relative to exposing these crimes.

If someone's words and activities are consistently helpful, I would estimate they are not a perp,(if I were worrying about that.)

Eleanor White

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