California Democrats accepting more c...

California Democrats accepting more campaign cash from tobacco industry

There are 3 comments on the The Fresno Bee story from Aug 2, 2014, titled California Democrats accepting more campaign cash from tobacco industry. In it, The Fresno Bee reports that:

Democrats in the California Capitol have become increasingly willing in recent years to take money from cigarette companies, a source of campaign funding that was once so controversial it remains shunned by their state party organization.

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“Opposing Evil, Helping Good”

Since: Feb 14

EVERYWHERE!!!

#1 Aug 3, 2014
Wow, this article...

Ok first of all, and this is a issue which comes up often. About (whomever) donating to elected officials. And the solution is not very complicated, if you think about it.

Quite simply, anyone can donate/contribute to anyone they desire. However, if that candidate gives anything back (in the way of voting a certain way, etc.), then that should constitute BRIBERY, and all involved should be fully prosecuted for that.

“This becomes more than a contribution,” he said.“It becomes who you are willing to associate yourself with.”(California Democratic Assemblyman Mike Gatto) Uh, no, it's a contribution. Furthermore, you should be willing to talk with and listen to ANYONE! If not, you should not be in office.

And I really found this line from the article entertaining: "...said Jim Knox, vice president of government relations for the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network." Oh, that's so cute! A Mass Media outlet pretending that the ACS is a decent, credible source. That's funny!

“While health and safety considerations must prevail, to the extent a resident’s preferences can be accommodated, they should,” Brown wrote in vetoing Assembly Bill 217.“Allowing an elderly resident, who can’t go home and who has smoked for a lifetime, to smoke in a designated indoor area during inclement weather – this sounds reasonable to me.” Can ANYONE honestly disagree with that? Provided that the room is one that nobody else is required to enter if they don't want (which I presume is how that is, isn't it?)

"“He’s taking their money and using it against them to (win) the supermajority and get good Democrats elected,” Herman said." If that's true, then that's how it's SUPPOSED to be.

And I'm not talking about the anti-smoking crap, nor am I talking about supporting Democrats (nor Republicans, for that matter). I'm talking about like if he's taking the cash, but not doing anything in return for it. If so, that is exactly how it is supposed too be! That is how the donating to candidates thing SHOULD function (Does everyone understand that aspect? Does anyone disagree???)

"...Brown is running for an unprecedented fourth term this year against long-shot Republican candidate Neel Kashkari, and is well ahead of Kashkari in both fundraising and public opinion polls." Typical Mass Media crap! So, the Democrat and the Republican are the only ones running? I sinceriously doubt that (I don't know much about that particular election, although I could look it up if I wanted.) I presume their are other candidates. If so, then why were they the only 2 mentioned?

I dunno, that will do, for now. That's all I feel like typing anyway. This article was just... anyway...
TomTi

Van Nuys, CA

#2 Aug 4, 2014
N8 the Grrr8 wrote:
And I really found this line from the article entertaining: "...said Jim Knox, vice president of government relations for the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network." Oh, that's so cute! A Mass Media outlet pretending that the ACS is a decent, credible source. That's funny!
You are right, it is a laugh to think that the American Cancer Society is a "decent, credible source" of information considering that the charity is a large business and a longstanding pawn of the medical industry, promoting, protecting, and defending their lucrative medical interventions while continuously lying to the public with their cancer statistics (see the epilogue in this article: http://www.supplements-and-health.com/mammogr... ). The mass media is part of this racket, thus their glorified depiction of the ACS.

“Opposing Evil, Helping Good”

Since: Feb 14

EVERYWHERE!!!

#3 Aug 6, 2014
TomTi wrote:
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You are right, it is a laugh to think that the American Cancer Society is a "decent, credible source" of information considering that the charity is a large business and a longstanding pawn of the medical industry, promoting, protecting, and defending their lucrative medical interventions while continuously lying to the public with their cancer statistics (see the epilogue in this article: http://www.supplements-and-health.com/mammogr... ). The mass media is part of this racket, thus their glorified depiction of the ACS.
You know, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out they have been doing it on purpose. Deliberately keeping people sick, to keep a revenue stream going for the Medical Industry, etc. That wouldn't surprise me one bit.

I typically give them the benefit of the doubt and just say they are extremely stupid. Couldn't spell ACS if I showed them the A and the C. And again, that's giving them the benefit of the doubt.

I can't help thinking that NOBODY is that stupid though. I mean yeah, I would bet on them doing it deliberately. I would bet on it. However much cash is in my wallet, I would bet that amount, that they are doing it on purpose.

Which is absolutely detestable! I hope that when all this gets straitened out (which it will, eventually, the truth never stays hidden forever, especially in the Internet Age), I hope that the PEOPLE responsible (the ones at the top) are held accountable for this.

I probably wouldn't be opposed to them being charged with Second Degree Murder for each and every person who died from whichever condition that organization was responsible for (Cancer, in the case of the ACS.)

And don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those "tough on crime" types. I typically support rehabilitation and I'm pretty much against the death penalty, for the most part.

But when it comes to that, or really ANY "Abuse Of Power" type of offense. I mean their's just no excuse for it! People who do that are pretty much just detestable human beings who should just die and go to Hell where they belong. I mean what else can I say?

Although let me be clear that I don't support like assassination or anything like that. I want it done legally. And I want those people to get a fare trial. Just like at Nuremberg.

In fact EXACTLY like Nuremberg. Just like those Nazis were treated fairly and were put on trail for the alleged offenses they had committed. That's what I want to see happen to these Nazis ;)

But first we've got to get rid of the Democrats AND Republicans. BOTH!!! And believe it or not, you STILL (to this day) have people who really do not get that. They think "Oh, if we just get rid of (this one), and keep (that one), everything will be good."

NO IT WON'T!!! They BOTH do it! Some support some issues, others support others. Which also serves to keep the populace against each other instead of the people at the top.

The Libertarians are much better, but still not perfect. They are more or less Center-Right, whereas the appropriate overall position (for this point in time, in Human History) is Center-Left (although it technically varies with which Political Issue it is).

I'm almost out of characters. I had some more stuff I was gonna say. I might make another post later.

But yeah, I'm pretty much positive the ACS (and the others) are doing it on purpose. I don't have "evidence", per say, but I do have Reasonable Suspicion that they are doing that.

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