Measure to ban gay marriage to be on November ballot

[Anonymous2]

Shadow Dragon wrote:

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Hey Soccer Mom Lady, Are you tired of wasting your time controlling your kids lives and the lives others that don't concern you, And You wonder why your husband sleeping his young secretary.

Ahh another example of the love and compassion from the butt pounding gay mafia!

This just backs up every theory that homosexuals are truly mentally sick.

I really hope you all get the mental treatment you deserve.

[AirCav]

Blue Lamp sounds jealous that they can't reproduce in a Gay relationship. If that didn't matter to Gay's they wouldn't be adopting babies so often.

Of course it matters and is at the center of the debate. They can't do it and it makes their relationship Abnormal and somewhat unnatural

They will say it is natural because nature can reproduce asexually. Nice Try!

Let me know when a gay couple either one can do the same and we will talk. Until then it is unnatural.

And or course as I pointed out they are jealous of not being able to procreate.

Equal rights is not their end game or goal. They want to force straights and those that find problems with their unions to accept them and somehow force us to say their union is the same as ours.

Sorry this will never happen. Some straights hold the view your lifestyle is a sin. Using the term they hold sacred to represent what they consider an unholy union and against Gods will is surely not going to get the Gay community the recognition they want so badly.

Nothing will.

It is like trying to ask Islam to recognize Gays. Not gonna happen.

Deal with it.

You can't have kids and straight couples are never going to look you in the eye and say they consider your union to be the same as theirs.

Insanity is said to be trying to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Your insane if you think a different tactic will cause a community to give up it's core beliefs to accommodate you need to be validated.

Sad really.

[Shadow Dragon]

Anonymous2 wrote:

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Ahh another example of the love and compassion from the butt pounding gay mafia!
This just backs up every theory that homosexuals are truly mentally sick.
I really hope you all get the mental treatment you deserve.

You're the one who needs mental tratment for Soccer Momitis.

[andrla]

I used think I did not care one way or another if you wanted to get married, I guess I am not as liberal as I once thought. Having a child made me realize the importance of marriage. Marriage is a sacrament that a man and women enter into.
"The matrimonial covenant, by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life, is by its nature ordered toward the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring;
Old fashion, maybe, but look at society today. What are we teaching our children?

[Rose T-H]

AirCav wrote:

Blue Lamp sounds jealous that they can't reproduce in a Gay relationship. If that didn't matter to Gay's they wouldn't be adopting babies so often.
Of course it matters and is at the center of the debate. They can't do it and it makes their relationship Abnormal and somewhat unnatural
They will say it is natural because nature can reproduce asexually. Nice Try!
Let me know when a gay couple either one can do the same and we will talk. Until then it is unnatural.
And or course as I pointed out they are jealous of not being able to procreate.
Equal rights is not their end game or goal. They want to force straights and those that find problems with their unions to accept them and somehow force us to say their union is the same as ours.
Sorry this will never happen. Some straights hold the view your lifestyle is a sin. Using the term they hold sacred to represent what they consider an unholy union and against Gods will is surely not going to get the Gay community the recognition they want so badly.
Nothing will.
It is like trying to ask Islam to recognize Gays. Not gonna happen.
Deal with it.
You can't have kids and straight couples are never going to look you in the eye and say they consider your union to be the same as theirs.
Insanity is said to be trying to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Your insane if you think a different tactic will cause a community to give up it's core beliefs to accommodate you need to be validated.
Sad really.

Again AirCav,
I am sorry to disappoint you, but Gays and Lesbians are not jealous of not being able to reproduce the good old fashion way.
By the way some already have children from previous relationships. Imagine that.
Gays and Lesbians are not looking for societal validation, they are looking for Equality across the board.
They want what every married heterosexual couple takes for granted.
Again Have a good day.

[Jeffrey Lytle]

If your not gay, why does it bother you when you do not have to be a part of anything you do not want to be? Let GOD JUDGE, right? Or, is GOD used by MAN as a power tool to force opression on people with different ideologies and beliefs? To each his and her own. I could care less about who gets married. If they love each other, is that not good enough? Morally, GOD has a great decision to make - whether love triumphs, right?

Jeffrey Lytle
McKinleyville - 5th District

[ltndncr59]

AirCav wrote:

Blue Lamp sounds jealous that they can't reproduce in a Gay relationship. If that didn't matter to Gay's they wouldn't be adopting babies so often.
Of course it matters and is at the center of the debate. They can't do it and it makes their relationship Abnormal and somewhat unnatural
They will say it is natural because nature can reproduce asexually. Nice Try!
Let me know when a gay couple either one can do the same and we will talk. Until then it is unnatural.
And or course as I pointed out they are jealous of not being able to procreate.
Equal rights is not their end game or goal. They want to force straights and those that find problems with their unions to accept them and somehow force us to say their union is the same as ours.
Sorry this will never happen. Some straights hold the view your lifestyle is a sin. Using the term they hold sacred to represent what they consider an unholy union and against Gods will is surely not going to get the Gay community the recognition they want so badly.
Nothing will.
It is like trying to ask Islam to recognize Gays. Not gonna happen.
Deal with it.
You can't have kids and straight couples are never going to look you in the eye and say they consider your union to be the same as theirs.
Insanity is said to be trying to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Your insane if you think a different tactic will cause a community to give up it's core beliefs to accommodate you need to be validated.
Sad really.

You are also calling my parent's relationship abnormal, you moron. My parents can't reproduce either.

[ltndncr59]

andrla wrote:

I used think I did not care one way or another if you wanted to get married, I guess I am not as liberal as I once thought. Having a child made me realize the importance of marriage. Marriage is a sacrament that a man and women enter into.
"The matrimonial covenant, by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life, is by its nature ordered toward the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring;
Old fashion, maybe, but look at society today. What are we teaching our children?

You tell me. By your attitude, it seems we are teaching them that it is alright to hate people who are different than they are, that it is alright to deny a segment of the population its civil rights, simply because they love differently than you do.

Why do you assume that homosexuals are depraved?

And you have quotes around something. Whom are you quoting, and from what? It sounds religious, and religion has no part in how this country works.

[argumentum]

Kit wrote:

The ridiculous political charade of homosexual "marriage" remains exposed as the fraud that it is.
No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that permits the oxymoron.
Homosexuals are NOT the same as other people. They seldom form longterm exclusive
relationships, often completely obsess on perversion, and have much elevated rates of many diseases and social ills. THIS is the reality.
No homosexual "marriage" is recognized by the US Government. We have a democratically established national definition of marriage as solely between one man and one woman.
No law could ever make even one homosexual relationship into a real marriage. It is of course ludicrous to claim that "equal rights" are involved in trying to disenfranchise others on the legal definition of marriage.
Homosexual "marriage" is a complete FRAUD.
Two unequals will NEVER be equal.
No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage, and the two are VERY different.
No homosexual relationships is the "equal" of a real marriage.
Marriage is indeed very different from any homosexual relationship:
Here are some MAJOR differences between real marriage and any sort of homosexual relationship, especially regarding any governmental involvement:
Like it or not, marriage and family are the basic building block of American Society.
No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that allows the contrived oxymoron and only about 1.6% of the US population claims to be "GLBT" anyway, so homosexual "marriage" fails on this one!
Children are the usual and natural result of real marriage. No child will EVER be born as a direct result of a homosexual relationship, so homomarriage fails on this one, too!
Having both a mother and father in the home is one of the best statistical predictors of a child's future success in life. No homosexual relationship can provide this.
Marriage is recognized as moral and necessary by nearly all Americans. Americans overwhelmingly reject homosexual "marriage" and most find homosexual acts to be immoral and damaging.

Not only are you a liar, but you are a plagiarist as well.

[Rose T-H]

andrla wrote:

I used think I did not care one way or another if you wanted to get married, I guess I am not as liberal as I once thought. Having a child made me realize the importance of marriage. Marriage is a sacrament that a man and women enter into.
"The matrimonial covenant, by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life, is by its nature ordered toward the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring;
Old fashion, maybe, but look at society today. What are we teaching our children?

So did your opinion really change after having a child?
Will you teach this child about hate, or will you teach them about diversity?
What happens if your child is gay?
Would you want your child to be deprived of the same rights and benefits that you and your husband have?
Please look at society today, see the many diversified individuals who contribute to this great country of ours.
Show patience and tolarence, not hate or bigotry.
Good luck raising your child, may they always have their parents love and support no matter what.

[Anonymous2]

Alot of you people screaming how acceptable homosexuality is, how would your grandparents, their parents and their parents have taken issues on this?

You are a sick in their eyes and in the eyes of your entire family tree.

Great Gramma would be so proud of the gay or lesbian offspring.

In november, California voters will pass Proposition 8.

Keep marriage between man and woman only.

Remember, Prop 8 is GR8!

[Anonymous2]

and if keeping marriage between man & woman is hate.

you people..........

wow

[BlueLamp]

Anonymous2 wrote:

and if keeping marriage between man & woman is hate.
you people..........
wow

Yes, that's hate, devaluing the love of people in same sex relationships.

If you want to add love to the world, vote for same sex marriage. If you want to take away love from the world and claim that homosexuals aren't capable of it, adding promiscuity and disease, go ahead and vote against it.

[Shadow Dragon]

Anonymous2 wrote:

Alot of you people screaming how acceptable homosexuality is, how would your grandparents, their parents and their parents have taken issues on this?
You are a sick in their eyes and in the eyes of your entire family tree.
Great Gramma would be so proud of the gay or lesbian offspring.
In november, California voters will pass Proposition 8.
Keep marriage between man and woman only.
Remember, Prop 8 is GR8!

does crused by your own hubris mean anything?

[BlueLamp]

Anonymous2 wrote:

Alot of you people screaming how acceptable homosexuality is, how would your grandparents, their parents and their parents have taken issues on this?
You are a sick in their eyes and in the eyes of your entire family tree.
Great Gramma would be so proud of the gay or lesbian offspring.
In november, California voters will pass Proposition 8.
Keep marriage between man and woman only.
Remember, Prop 8 is GR8!

The American Medical Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the World Health Organization, the American Counseling Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the Council on Child and Adolescent Health, the American Academy of Pediatrics and even the health ministries in Russia and China say homosexuality isn't a choice, can't be changed, and trying to change it is harmful.

1)Sexual orientation: More than 70 percent of the men who molest boys rate themselves as heterosexual in their adult sexual preferences. In addition, 9 percent report that they are equally heterosexual and homosexual. Only 8 percent report that they are exclusively homosexual.(THE ABEL AND HARLOW CHILD MOLESTATION PREVENTION STUDY 2001)- This was a large study involving over 16,000 adults.

2)There are many devastating consequences of homophobia in society, not the least of which is gay/lesbian teen suicide. Gays/lesbians who don't grow up with normal dating (like their heterosexual counterparts) sometimes have stunted psychosexual development and as a result become adults attracted to teenagers. Obviously more adults attracted to teens will result in more child molestation.

3)Then of course there are adult homosexuals still in denial about their sexuality. They are MUCH MORE dangerous because their denial systems pervade every aspect of their lives. They are the ones responsible for 70% of all male child molestations. The anti-gays don't want you to know that though. Their hatred of homosexuals is much more important than a few children being molested.

4)The self-loathing and hatred felt by homosexuals who grow up trying to repress/change their sexuality (impossible according to ALL mainstream psychological associations) leads to the kind of self-esteem problems that result in alcohol/drug addiction, sex addictions, depression, eating disorders, and other dysfunction. These things however, are unimportant to anti-gays because, like any type of bigot/racist, their contempt for people different from themselves is far more important.

[BlueLamp]

Lockwood wrote:

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Indeed, the ridiculous political charade of homosexual "marriage" is exposed as the fraud that it is.
No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that permits the oxymoron.
Homosexuals are NOT the same as other people. They seldom form longterm exclusive
relationships, often completely obsess on perversion, and have much elevated rates of many diseases and social ills. THIS is the reality.
No homosexual "marriage" is recognized by the US Government. We have a democratically established national definition of marriage as solely between one man and one woman.
No law could ever make even one homosexual relationship into a real marriage. It is of course ludicrous to claim that "equal rights" are involved in trying to disenfranchise others on the legal definition of marriage.
Homosexual "marriage" is a complete FRAUD.
Two unequals will NEVER be equal.
No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage, and the two are VERY different.
No homosexual relationships is the "equal" of a real marriage.
Marriage is indeed very different from any homosexual relationship:
Here are some MAJOR differences between real marriage and any sort of homosexual relationship, especially regarding any governmental involvement:
Like it or not, marriage and family are the basic building block of American Society.
No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that allows the contrived oxymoron and only about 1.6% of the US population claims to be "GLBT" anyway, so homosexual "marriage" fails on this one!
Children are the usual and natural result of real marriage. No child will EVER be born as a direct result of a homosexual relationship, so homomarriage fails on this one, too!
Having both a mother and father in the home is one of the best statistical predictors of a child's future success in life. No homosexual relationship can provide this.
Marriage is recognized as moral and necessary by nearly all Americans. Americans overwhelmingly reject homosexual "marriage" and most find homosexual acts to be immoral and damaging.

It's getting a little boring, Wil.

[Shadow Dragon]

Soren wrote:

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They why can't you or any of the other mindless hom0fascist clones posting her refute even one of the many points?
Your ridiculous homosexual "marriage" charade remains exposed as the fraud that it is!

Oh, The only you actually type that wasn't from someone else. Get a life ,Wil

[Anonymous]

Prop 8 will pass in a few months, and every gay marriage currently done in California will become as valid as medical marijuana.

[BlueLamp]

Soren wrote:

<quoted text>
They why can't you or any of the other mindless hom0fascist clones posting her refute even one of the many points?
Your ridiculous homosexual "marriage" charade remains exposed as the fraud that it is!

Even more boring.

[Shadow Dragon]

Anonymous wrote:

Prop 8 will pass in a few months, and every gay marriage currently done in California will become as valid as medical marijuana.

Dream on, Even Rush thinks it won'r pass. So you think gays would disappear if it passes? Dream on. People who live glass closets should come out and admit they're gay.