Immigrant groups welcome DMV study on licenses

Jan 16, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The State

Immigrant advocates are welcoming a California study that found unlicensed drivers are the most hazardous motorists on the road, saying it supports their longstanding argument that denying driver's licenses for illegal immigrants has put everyone at risk.

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Magadala

Brownsville, OR

#1 Jan 16, 2013
"a California study that found unlicensed drivers are the most hazardous motorists on the road, saying it supports their longstanding argument that denying driver's licenses for illegal immigrants has put everyone at risk."

Wow! We didn't know that by getting a piece of paper we would drive safer! Amazing logic! Does this also include that if illegal aliens get driver's licenses they will get car insurance as well?

How about using this logic. Illegal aliens are hazardous drivers because they have never respected our laws and aren't about to!!!! They feel they can get away with anything, and they are!
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Since: Jan 11

El Paso, TX

#2 Jan 17, 2013
Illegal Aliens here in El Paso are Knowingly to have no Insurance and a very High number of drunk driving convictions
ronnie

Riverton, UT

#3 Jan 17, 2013
Afghan - Iraq Vet wrote:
Illegal Aliens here in El Paso are Knowingly to have no Insurance and a very High number of drunk driving convictions
Every where in this country illegal alien driver's are killing and mameing hundreds of people. They drive drunk, no license, no insurance. My son was hit 2 month's ago by and illegal alien driver from Mexico. We paid all the bill's, took a loss on our car, and she had no license, no insurance and was treated like a little princess.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#4 Jan 17, 2013
Alcoholism runs rampant in the Latino community. Then they want to drive.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

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#5 Jan 18, 2013
Afghan - Iraq Vet wrote:
Illegal Aliens here in El Paso are Knowingly to have no Insurance and a very High number of drunk driving convictions
Hispanics cause more crashes when driving drunk...not a good thing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/31/lati...

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#6 Jan 19, 2013
They should also do a study on DUIs and who gets the most.
deport deport deport

Danielson, CT

#7 Jan 20, 2013
Reports that illegal aliens drive drunk and kill Americans are EXAGGERATED! Illegal aliens obey all US laws and would never consider driving while impaired. Stop this discrimination against hardworking, decent people. Most, hell, ALL Mexicans, are S ober P eople I n C ars S.
Bull Chit

Omaha, NE

#8 Jan 20, 2013
deport deport deport wrote:
Reports that illegal aliens drive drunk and kill Americans are EXAGGERATED! Illegal aliens obey all US laws and would never consider driving while impaired. Stop this discrimination against hardworking, decent people. Most, hell, ALL Mexicans, are S ober P eople I n C ars S.
What a load of krap! Being in OUR counyty illegally is the first law they broke.

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#9 Jan 20, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
They should also do a study on DUIs and who gets the most.
Here is one:

"In 2010, Hispanics represented the
largest (43.7%) ethnic group among
DUI arrests, as they have each year
since 1992 (with the exception of 1999,
when whites were the largest group at
42.8%)."

http://adp.ca.gov/FactSheets/DrivingUnderTheI...

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#10 Jan 20, 2013
Of course it only cites stats for CA.

Since: Nov 09

United States

#11 Jan 20, 2013
Self-reported rates of driving a car after having drunk enough 'to be in trouble if stopped by the police' were highest among White and Hispanic men (22 and 21%, respectively), as were lifetime arrest rates for driving under the influence of alcohol (13% for White men, 19% for Hispanic men). Additionally, our analyses suggest that drinkers who drive under the influence of alcohol are more likely to be men (regardless of ethnicity), consume more alcohol, and be alcohol dependent than drinkers who do not engage in alcohol-impaired driving.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10576676

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#12 Jan 20, 2013
Hispanic America wrote:
Self-reported rates of driving a car after having drunk enough 'to be in trouble if stopped by the police' were highest among White and Hispanic men (22 and 21%, respectively), as were lifetime arrest rates for driving under the influence of alcohol (13% for White men, 19% for Hispanic men). Additionally, our analyses suggest that drinkers who drive under the influence of alcohol are more likely to be men (regardless of ethnicity), consume more alcohol, and be alcohol dependent than drinkers who do not engage in alcohol-impaired driving.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10576676
I agree with the fact that men are more likely to commit DUI's, but your info is based on a survey...what is the chance that the results are not quite truthful? I am still looking for raw data...not to accuse anybody, but just for my own knowledge. Facts have to be brought to light, no matter whose feelings they may hurt.

Since: Nov 09

United States

#13 Jan 20, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Here is one:
"In 2010, Hispanics represented the
largest (43.7%) ethnic group among
DUI arrests, as they have each year
since 1992 (with the exception of 1999,
when whites were the largest group at
42.8%)."
http://adp.ca.gov/FactSheets/DrivingUnderTheI...
You're presenting statistics where hispanics get a DUI at a rate that's .9% higher than whites so comparably, whites are as bad as hispanics when it comes to DUI's!

Since Hispanics get DUI's at a rate that's just as bad as whites... should we now cut off the DL's of white people also?

After all, this is the road you're taking.

Since: Nov 09

United States

#14 Jan 20, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Hispanics cause more crashes when driving drunk...not a good thing.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/31/lati...
This is a quote from your above link.

Another 2010 report by the NHTSA,“Special Report on Race/Ethnicity and Impaired Driving,” found that among other groups, Hispanics are “less likely” to believe that driving while intoxicated is a “safety problem” or that they will be caught in the act.

So education is the solution here and allowing illegal aliens to take a DL exam will be sound education to change the outcome.

Surely you cannot be so against safety that you rather see DUI's stay at their current rates rather than take logical steps to lower the DUI rates. Lets keep in mind, the illegal alien is not leaving so wise up and accept the fact that illegals are going to be driving on our streets regardless of a State issuing DL's to these people.

Since there is no stopping them from operating a car without a license, the safe approach is to simply allow them to obtain a DL that way they at least know the rules of the road.

Since: Nov 09

United States

#15 Jan 20, 2013
spytheweb wrote:
Alcoholism runs rampant in the Latino community. Then they want to drive.
And if they do, they pay the price just like whites and blacks do.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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#16 Jan 20, 2013
Hispanic America wrote:
<quoted text>
You're presenting statistics where hispanics get a DUI at a rate that's .9% higher than whites so comparably, whites are as bad as hispanics when it comes to DUI's!
Since Hispanics get DUI's at a rate that's just as bad as whites... should we now cut off the DL's of white people also?
After all, this is the road you're taking.
Actually, that wasn't the road I was taking. I am looking for facts...period. But since you asked, yes, both groups should be kept off the roads. Drinking while driving is totally irresponsible behavior.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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#17 Jan 20, 2013
Hispanic America wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a quote from your above link.
Another 2010 report by the NHTSA,“Special Report on Race/Ethnicity and Impaired Driving,” found that among other groups, Hispanics are “less likely” to believe that driving while intoxicated is a “safety problem” or that they will be caught in the act.
So education is the solution here and allowing illegal aliens to take a DL exam will be sound education to change the outcome.
Surely you cannot be so against safety that you rather see DUI's stay at their current rates rather than take logical steps to lower the DUI rates. Lets keep in mind, the illegal alien is not leaving so wise up and accept the fact that illegals are going to be driving on our streets regardless of a State issuing DL's to these people.
Since there is no stopping them from operating a car without a license, the safe approach is to simply allow them to obtain a DL that way they at least know the rules of the road.
And how should the test be administered? Should it be in
English?

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

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#18 Jan 20, 2013
Hispanic America wrote:
<quoted text>
And if they do, they pay the price just like whites and blacks do.
How can you say they don't understand our laws, when so many of them have been pulled over for DUI's multiple times...surely after the first time, they'd get the hint that what they are doing is wrong.

Since: Nov 09

United States

#19 Jan 20, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with the fact that men are more likely to commit DUI's, but your info is based on a survey...what is the chance that the results are not quite truthful? I am still looking for raw data...not to accuse anybody, but just for my own knowledge. Facts have to be brought to light, no matter whose feelings they may hurt.
Look, you guys/gals are bringing forth statistics that show Hispanics having a slight lead on whites when it comes to DUI's. Your numbers for Hispanics are in the 40% range as well as the whites. So using your argument.... whites should not be given DL's either as they're as much of a danger to our roads as Hispanics.

I'm sorry of you're offended but whites are just as bad as Hispanics where it comes to DUI's. Maybe you & I should surrender our DL's so that the streets may be safer..... statistically speaking that is!

Since: Nov 09

United States

#20 Jan 20, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>And how should the test be administered? Should it be in
English?
A DL is a States right issue. Therefore, each respective State reserves the right to administer their exams in the language(s) of their choice.

I was over at the DMV not too long ago and took a look at the DL study guides in Spanish and Tagalog. Though I had a difficult time understanding the Tagalog study guide, it does inform the examinee what the signs & signals mean in English.

Not only that but every person has to take a behind the wheel drivers test and follow all signs & signals on the street so I really don't see how forcing an English learner to take a written test in a language they're not comfortable in will benefit anyone.

And for the record, the English only movement is nothing more that a bigoted agenda by an arrogant and obstreperous Nativist population.

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