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California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

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Greg

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Nov 16, 2012
 
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Willard Mitt Romney-Paul D. Ryan was against health, voter suppression, and every major policy flipped throughout the campaign.

Donald Trumpís announcement last month that he would pay President Obama $5 million to reveal his college transcripts and passport records.
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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Or warning it brings on heart attacks or warning if smoked while pregnant causes add. Or warning it might make you stupid. Want to tell me it's good for your heart? I'd be glad to debunk you on that one.
Give me the references, and I will show you the error in logic.
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Willard Mitt Romney - Paul D. Ryan were against health, voter suppression, and every major policy flipped throughout the campaign.

Donald Trumpís announcement last month that he would pay President Obama $5 million to reveal his college transcripts and passport records.

These Republicans are a bunch of fogHorns stuck on stupid blasts.
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Nov 17, 2012
 
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Why would anyone admit they at that dog food? lol..How cute, and funny to actually witness pot heads in a car. Can't wait for all the new stories in Colorado.
like which ones???
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Nov 17, 2012
 
Bruno24 wrote:
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Give me the references, and I will show you the error in logic.
pot causes add when the mother is preg. and induces heart attacks in middle age men. Harvard http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2000/03.02/ma...

http://www.livestrong.com/article/60631-marij...

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-h...

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story...
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Nov 17, 2012
 
http://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20030325/marij...

Smoking Marijuana While Pregnant May Harm Baby's Brain
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I heard tell the New Republican party will endorse some Green Magic laws..
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Who planted all the stuff in the first place?
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Nov 18, 2012
 
Proposition 19 would change California Law to Legalize Marijuana and Allow It to Be Regulated and Taxed:

- Allows people 21 years old or older to possess, cultivate, or transport marijuana for personal use.

- Permits local governments to regulate and tax commercial production and sale of marijuana to people 21 years old or older.

- Prohibits people from possessing marijuana on school grounds, using it in public, smoking it while minors are present, or providing it to anyone under 21 years old.

- Maintains current prohibitions against driving while impaired.

How will you vote on November 2?
Mr Anderson

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Nov 18, 2012
 
Sister SunShinny wrote:
Proposition 19 would change California Law to Legalize Marijuana and Allow It to Be Regulated and Taxed:
- Allows people 21 years old or older to possess, cultivate, or transport marijuana for personal use.
- Permits local governments to regulate and tax commercial production and sale of marijuana to people 21 years old or older.
- Prohibits people from possessing marijuana on school grounds, using it in public, smoking it while minors are present, or providing it to anyone under 21 years old.
- Maintains current prohibitions against driving while impaired.
How will you vote on November 2?
fortunately, the growers and social conservatives united to defeat it....

it was a poorly wriiten law .....the gay community in the bay and else where voted against it too....

as it imposed draconian penalties on those over 21 caught smoking with someone 18 plus....who, at the present time, only have to pay a ticket if they get caught with less than an OZ.

in other words it was reversing basic decriminalization here in the state, which has been in effect since 1975.

and decriminalization was expanded on(by the govenator himself) in 2010, just as prop 19 was being voted down.

now it is a ticket(misdemeanor) of 100$, no court appearance needed.
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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>pot causes add when the mother is preg. and induces heart attacks in middle age men. Harvard http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2000/03.02/ma...
The error is here: "These findings come from a study of 3,882 people who survived heart attacks."

To get the statistics right, you need to study a population of pot smokers and the proportion of heart attack in that population. Not a population of people having heart attack, and the proportion of pot smoker in it.

The next papers refer to that same study, and to another study where the statistics is done in the correct direction, but with too little samples.

Doing roller costers, or many sorts of sport, might still be much dangerous for the heart than smoking pot, taking the number they give.
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Mr Anderson wrote:
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fortunately, the growers and social conservatives united to defeat it....
it was a poorly wriiten law .....the gay community in the bay and else where voted against it too....
as it imposed draconian penalties on those over 21 caught smoking with someone 18 plus....who, at the present time, only have to pay a ticket if they get caught with less than an OZ.
in other words it was reversing basic decriminalization here in the state, which has been in effect since 1975.
and decriminalization was expanded on(by the govenator himself) in 2010, just as prop 19 was being voted down.
now it is a ticket(misdemeanor) of 100$, no court appearance needed.
You are right. 19 was badly written. Is there another proposition in line? It is time you legalize it too Californians, it is about time to move.
As an European I would not fight against laws protecting the little enterprises against big monopolies, as it eventually suits better the consumers, and guarantied much genuine choices in the products. And it gives job, and makes merchandising more human.

But letting MJ illegal can only benefit to the drug barons and the criminals, and nobody win anything, except the bandits for a short time, before they get killed, with their family, by other bandits.
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RiccardoFire wrote:
http://www.webmd.com/baby/news /20030325/marijuana-may-harm-f etus
Smoking Marijuana While Pregnant May Harm Baby's Brain
Not enough information in the abstract to be able to judge it. If that is confirmed, of course people have to be informed.

I can even imagine some precaution taken, and I can imagine the caution made clear by the honest sellers of marijuana (the criminals will sell it without caution to anyone, in case prohibition persists, of course).
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California Assembly Bill 2286 makes it a crime not to report.
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When is the Arnold is driving to Hemet, California?
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Bruno24 wrote:
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Not enough information in the abstract to be able to judge it. If that is confirmed, of course people have to be informed.
I can even imagine some precaution taken, and I can imagine the caution made clear by the honest sellers of marijuana (the criminals will sell it without caution to anyone, in case prohibition persists, of course).
The criminals will sell it no matter if it's legal or not.
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Nov 18, 2012
 
Bruno24 wrote:
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Not enough information in the abstract to be able to judge it. If that is confirmed, of course people have to be informed.
I can even imagine some precaution taken, and I can imagine the caution made clear by the honest sellers of marijuana (the criminals will sell it without caution to anyone, in case prohibition persists, of course).
interesting point, but
riccardo only sees things in black and white.....sorry. bruno.

we have this retarded class of people influencing our political process called tea-baggers...

they think the founding fathers of our country somehow had similar veiws as they do....

they only want to get into government to destroy it.
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Nov 18, 2012
 
Bruno?? the only party you might recognize that they resemble is the Nazi party.
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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>The criminals will sell it no matter if it's legal or not.
When alcohol prohibition ended, the criminals stopped to sell it. Of course the newt prohibition of drugs did create new job for them, but once this comedy will turned of, many criminals will become "honest vendors", and some will presumably resume usual crimes perhaps, but our children will no more be pushed in that criminality, and the drug "problem" will become again what it has always been: an incidental health problem, quite easy to cure with some other so-called drug. And then the cops will have again time and resources to fight the real violent crimes.

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