Energy storage seen as next spark for...

Energy storage seen as next spark for 'green' power

There are 48 comments on the Sydney Morning Herald story from Jun 10, 2014, titled Energy storage seen as next spark for 'green' power. In it, Sydney Morning Herald reports that:

First, Randy Ross bought a Chevrolet Volt. Faced with the need to charge his car and eager to cut his utility bill, he installed solar panels on the roof of his Pleasanton, Californian, home.

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Solarman

La Quinta, CA

#1 Jun 10, 2014
""Then, if you get the energy storage system, you can turn the solar power into a battery that provides power even if PG&E goes down. When the next earthquake comes along, the battery can keep my refrigerator and television running. This is a no-brainer.""

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/carbon-economy...

The price of laying in one's own infrastructure is coming down in price. First you install the solar PV system. Then convert to battery backed PV and then add a small natural gas generator set or fuel cell. NRG Energy is right now the only power generation and distribution company looking at bringing this very technology to it's customer base.

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Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#2 Jun 13, 2014
Solarman wrote:
The price of laying in one's own infrastructure is coming down in price.
But it's still ridiculously expensive for a ridiculously tiny amount of energy, which is why nobody is buying into this whole "green energy" scam that liberals are shoving down everyone's throats.
Solarman

La Quinta, CA

#3 Jun 13, 2014
Sneaky Pete wrote:
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But it's still ridiculously expensive for a ridiculously tiny amount of energy, which is why nobody is buying into this whole "green energy" scam that liberals are shoving down everyone's throats.
That's a lie, solar is not a sprint, it is a marathon. Solar PV is also a legacy product. Manufacturers are almost in sync with their warranty's. Most offer replacement of a panel that doesn't put out 90% or better after 10 years of use. In 25 years of use they warranty 80% or better output of a new panel. Over a 25 to 35 year period that is NOT a "ridiculously tiny amount of energy."
The ridiculous and tiny here is YOUR knowledge of Solar. So how much experience do you have in solar?

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Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#4 Jun 14, 2014
Solarman wrote:
<quoted text> Over a 25 to 35 year period that is NOT a "ridiculously tiny amount of energy.
Yea it is. If solar were this great energy source, everyone would be using it. They don't because it sucks. That's a fact.
Solarman

La Quinta, CA

#5 Jun 14, 2014
Sneaky Pete wrote:
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Yea it is. If solar were this great energy source, everyone would be using it. They don't because it sucks. That's a fact.
YOU say, everyone would be using it. B.S. Not "everyone" has a car, not "everyone" has a cell phone, not "everyone" needs to travel 10 blocks from home to get what they want. IN YOUR narcissistic world, so YOU mean, You're to stupid to use solar, that means everyone, right? So, another uninformed lie from you. Plenty of people are installing solar on their homes and businesses. The electric utilities are afraid, very afraid. They count on shills LIKE YOU to obfuscate with no "facts". The only thing that "sucks" here is YOU P.P. All that means is you're an irresponsible excuse laden bloviate, that will not take responsibility for their energy usage. Get a little experience with solar and your utility masters will not have the hold they now have on you.

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Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#6 Jun 14, 2014
Solarman wrote:
<quoted text> YOU say, everyone would be using it. B.S. Not "everyone" has a car, not "everyone" has a cell phone.
The overwhelming majority of the American population has a car and/or a cell phone. They have these items because they're efficient and affordable. Only a fraction of a fraction of the population is experimenting with solar (mostly just to make a political statement). The reason the solar nuts are so few is because it's the opposite of "efficient and affordable", and the rest of the population knows better.
Solarman

La Quinta, CA

#7 Jun 14, 2014
Sneaky Pete wrote:
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The overwhelming majority of the American population has a car and/or a cell phone. They have these items because they're efficient and affordable. Only a fraction of a fraction of the population is experimenting with solar (mostly just to make a political statement). The reason the solar nuts are so few is because it's the opposite of "efficient and affordable", and the rest of the population knows better.
Now you go from "everyone" to the overwhelming majority. Keep trying, you'll get it right sooner or later. Solar PV is efficient and affordable, because YOU deny it, doesn't make it so. "Only a fraction of a fraction of the population is experimenting with solar (mostly just to make a political statement)." That's total B.S., how about those that will take responsibility for their power usage and protect themselves from a monopoly driven system of energy generation, distribution and sales. Another misinformed lie, put forth by one who has NO experience in solar. People are finally catching on. Last year was the first time Private Solar PV installations out paced utility sized projects per installed KW of production. You're off the mark again.

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Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#8 Jun 14, 2014
Solarman wrote:
<quoted text> Now you go from "everyone" to the overwhelming majority. Keep trying, you'll get it right sooner or later. Solar PV is efficient and affordable, because YOU deny it, doesn't make it so. "Only a fraction of a fraction of the population is experimenting with solar (mostly just to make a political statement)." That's total B.S., how about those that will take responsibility for their power usage and protect themselves from a monopoly driven system of energy generation, distribution and sales. Another misinformed lie, put forth by one who has NO experience in solar. People are finally catching on. Last year was the first time Private Solar PV installations out paced utility sized projects per installed KW of production. You're off the mark again.
Yawwwn. People hate solar because it sucks. The fact they're not using it proves I'm right and you're wrong.

You lose again!
Solarman

La Quinta, CA

#9 Jun 14, 2014
Sneaky Pete wrote:
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Yawwwn. People hate solar because it sucks. The fact they're not using it proves I'm right and you're wrong.
You lose again!
Many people use solar because it works. You have no facts and will never be right. But it does suck to be you.

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Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#10 Jun 15, 2014
Solarman wrote:
<quoted text> Many people use solar because it works.
"Many" as in you and your circle of tree hugging liberal friends?

"Many hundreds of millions" more use coal, oil, and nuclear because it works, and solar doesn't.
Solarman

La Quinta, CA

#11 Jun 15, 2014
Sneaky Pete wrote:
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"Many" as in you and your circle of tree hugging liberal friends?
"Many hundreds of millions" more use coal, oil, and nuclear because it works, and solar doesn't.
Another lie P.P. The fossil fuel industry is right at 150 years old. This intrinsic industry still gets favorable leases, grants, low interest loans and other perks to advance R&D and exploration. After 150 years one would think the industry could stand on its own. Solar works just fine and allows the owner of such a system to take responsibility for their energy usage. Scared, aren't ya? Change is coming, you can either lead, follow, or get hell out of the way. Once again P.P., you have NO clue what a liberal is, much less how to call it.

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Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#12 Jun 15, 2014
Solarman wrote:
<quoted text>Another lie P.P. The fossil fuel industry is right at 150 years old. After 150 years one would think the industry could stand on its own.
Um, it does. The only people using solar are idiot liberals trying to score political points, and idiot companies catering to the liberal agenda.
Solarman

La Quinta, CA

#13 Jun 15, 2014
Sneaky Pete wrote:
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Um, it does. The only people using solar are idiot liberals trying to score political points, and idiot companies catering to the liberal agenda.
Um, NO, the fossil fuel industry does not stand on its own. A lot of that grant money and Government loan money is being used to develop reserves in countries that are not exactly "friends" of the U.S. Perhaps it's YOU P.P. that is the liberal. It's pretty liberal to lay spread eagle to make it easy for the electric utility to screw you, nice.

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Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#14 Jun 15, 2014
Solar is a scam. Avoid it like the plague.
Solarman

La Quinta, CA

#15 Jun 15, 2014
Sneaky Pete wrote:
Solar is a scam. Avoid it like the plague.
P.P. has no solar experience. Avoid his opinion like a dose of clap. Anything relevant on solar, other than stupid uninformed utility talking points?

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Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#16 Jun 15, 2014
The liar in chief and his liberal zombies want this country to crumble. One crucial step in this process is to destroy capitalism and impose radical environmental restrictions that can never be satisfied. Implementing solar "energy" is such a step.
Solarman

La Quinta, CA

#17 Jun 15, 2014
Sneaky Pete wrote:
The liar in chief and his liberal zombies want this country to crumble. One crucial step in this process is to destroy capitalism and impose radical environmental restrictions that can never be satisfied. Implementing solar "energy" is such a step.
Wow, what a paranoid, delusional, uninformed, opinion that is. Henry Ford developed the assembly line that allowed automobiles to be manufactured very quickly. Not "everyone" or even "the vast majority" embraced this new automobile overnight. His manufacturing knowledge brought the automobile price down so the "common man" could afford a new car. The culmination of 50 years of advances in IC chip manufacturing, with advances in robotics for both substrate and assembly of solar panels has brought the price down to where the "common man" can afford to by a solar PV system. Soon the same technology will bring the price of battery storage down for the "common man".

At least one large energy company NRG Energy recognizes distributed generation sources like solar PV and Wind will become common place. Right now NRG is positioning itself to sell or lease solar PV systems to homeowners and business owners. They would also like to sell a complete package, that has storage and a small natural gas back up generator set.

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Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#18 Jun 17, 2014
It's too bad wind is so useless too. If it was worth a pinch of sht, you could power the whole world with all of the hot air coming out of you.
Solarman

La Quinta, CA

#19 Jun 17, 2014
Sneaky Pete wrote:
It's too bad wind is so useless too. If it was worth a pinch of sht, you could power the whole world with all of the hot air coming out of you.
Yeah, right. IF stupid was money, you'd be a billionaire. Anything relevant on solar, anything? Didn't think so.

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Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#20 Jun 17, 2014
Solar energy=crp energy

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