Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,376

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#181535 Feb 27, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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There you go again. The "you're lying!" straw man yet again? Didn't we just talk about that?
Why do you seem to believe that polygamy doesn't deserve the same consideration as same sex marriage?
A valid reason please.
Not "there's not enough of them" Not "you're a liar" and not "people are more intelligent than you!"
And not "get a lawyer!" or "go gather signatures!" or "Marry your goat!"
If you are personally interested, then you should be out campaigning for it and not harping about it here, as here will get you nowhere ( as you have already noticed I am sure )

But as you have already stated you have no personal interest in poly, and you refuse to create a poly form to discuss it in, your only desire is to side track all conversations about SSM to Poly, which means you only have an interest in bringing it up with SSM supporters here, whom you constantly attack.

EVERYONE can see right through what you are doing
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181536 Feb 27, 2013
Big D wrote:
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If you are personally interested, then you should be out campaigning for it and not harping about it here, as here will get you nowhere ( as you have already noticed I am sure )
But as you have already stated you have no personal interest in poly, and you refuse to create a poly form to discuss it in, your only desire is to side track all conversations about SSM to Poly, which means you only have an interest in bringing it up with SSM supporters here, whom you constantly attack.
EVERYONE can see right through what you are doing
Don't be so silly. This is a discussion forum.

I can discuss marriage equality for polygamists without a personal interest in a poly marriage and you can discuss same sex marriage without a personal interest in a same sex marriage.

I can discuss poly marriage without going out in the streets and campaigning, and you can discuss same sex marriage without going out in the streets and campaigning.

I am mostly the only one attempting to discuss marriage equality here. If I wasn't here this thread would be dead as a door nail.

Your attempts to censor me speak volumes. Why do you not give poly marriage the same consideration as same sex marriage?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181537 Feb 27, 2013
Big D wrote:
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If you are personally interested, then you should be out campaigning for it and not harping about it here, as here will get you nowhere ( as you have already noticed I am sure )
But as you have already stated you have no personal interest in poly, and you refuse to create a poly form to discuss it in, your only desire is to side track all conversations about SSM to Poly, which means you only have an interest in bringing it up with SSM supporters here, whom you constantly attack.
EVERYONE can see right through what you are doing
The fact is your long angry rants are straw men. Designed to avoid the real argument that you have lost long ago.

You say the same dumb things over and over hoping for the desired effect that never comes.

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#181538 Feb 27, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I have posted plenty. You have ignored them or responded with real dumb stuff like "yuo are stuk on stooooooooooooopid".
Because you are a big dopey galoot troll!
Copy, cut paste, Your Ideas..........
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#181539 Feb 27, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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No, that only works for you. When I look in the mirror I see someone trying to discuss marriage equality.
The topic is Prop 8, retardo.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#181540 Feb 27, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go again. The "you're lying!" straw man yet again? Didn't we just talk about that?
Why do you seem to believe that polygamy doesn't deserve the same consideration as same sex marriage?
A valid reason please.
Not "there's not enough of them" Not "you're a liar" and not "people are more intelligent than you!"
And not "get a lawyer!" or "go gather signatures!" or "Marry your goat!"
What makes you think this topic is about polygamy? Do you see the word polygamy anywhere in the article?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181541 Feb 27, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Copy, cut paste, Your Ideas..........
I have. Many times. You're not interested. You have shouted them down with stupidity. Due to the fact that you're an obsessed cyberstalking CREEP! And a very dumb troll with no argument.

Hope that helped.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#181542 Feb 27, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact is your long angry rants are straw men. Designed to avoid the real argument that you have lost long ago.
You say the same dumb things over and over hoping for the desired effect that never comes.
Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage is the topic. You say the same irrelevant things over and over, hoping for the desired effect that never comes.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181543 Feb 27, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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The topic is Prop 8, retardo.
Yes. Shall I repeat my response to that? Did you forget already Miss Thing?

OK. I will! If the federal law against polygamy were to be repealed, the only thing stopping poly marriage in California would be PROPOSITION EIGHT.

And there's your topic! Prop 8! Whine about that fruitcake!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181544 Feb 27, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
What makes you think this topic is about polygamy? Do you see the word polygamy anywhere in the article?
If the federal law against polygamy were to be repealed, the only thing stopping poly marriage in California would be PROPOSITION EIGHT.

Don't you agree with my post about PROPOSITION EIGHT Miss Thing?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181545 Feb 27, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage is the topic. You say the same irrelevant things over and over, hoping for the desired effect that never comes.
No, that's you.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#181547 Feb 27, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. Shall I repeat my response to that? Did you forget already Miss Thing?
OK. I will! If the federal law against polygamy were to be repealed, the only thing stopping poly marriage in California would be PROPOSITION EIGHT.
And there's your topic! Prop 8! Whine about that fruitcake!
Really, dumbo? You think when DOMA and Prop 8 go down, polygamy will become legal in California??? Really? What about California laws against bigamy? Did they just evaporate on your planet?
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#181548 Feb 27, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
If the federal law against polygamy were to be repealed, the only thing stopping poly marriage in California would be PROPOSITION EIGHT.
Don't you agree with my post about PROPOSITION EIGHT Miss Thing?
No, dumbass, I don't because you are incorrect.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#181550 Feb 27, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
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In the Brown lawsuit, Mr. Turley and Mr. Alba said the Brown family, members of the Apostolic United Brethren faith, has committed no crime except to live together,“motivated by their sincere religious beliefs and love for one another.”

States cannot “criminalize consensual intimate relationships, including homosexual relationships, between unmarried adults,” the lawyers wrote, citing the 2003 U.S. Supreme Court decision in Lawrence v. Texas.

And yet Utah has a law that forbids a legally married person from “purport[ing] to marry another person or cohabit[ing] with another person,” the lawyers wrote.

With this and other anti-polygamy laws, Utah “criminalizes not just polygamous marriages, but also an array of plural intimate relationships and associations of consenting adults,” Mr. Turley and Mr. Alba wrote.

The Brown family’s “basic liberties and equal protection” are being violated, they added, asking the court to “preliminarily and permanently” block enforcement of Utah’s laws that ban and criminalize polygamy.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/24...
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181551 Feb 27, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Really, dumbo? You think when DOMA and Prop 8 go down, polygamy will become legal in California??? Really? What about California laws against bigamy? Did they just evaporate on your planet?
Prop 8 being defeated is one less hurdle to overcome in the legalization of polygamy in California.

Glad that makes you so angry! It makes me happy, I like equal rights for everyone. And especially for people you don't approve of.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#181552 Feb 27, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact is your long angry rants are straw men. Designed to avoid the real argument that you have lost long ago.
You say the same dumb things over and over hoping for the desired effect that never comes.
I am not trying to avoid the real argument, about the overturn of Prop 8 in California :)
Big D

Modesto, CA

#181553 Feb 27, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't be so silly. This is a discussion forum.
I can discuss marriage equality for polygamists without a personal interest in a poly marriage and you can discuss same sex marriage without a personal interest in a same sex marriage.
I can discuss poly marriage without going out in the streets and campaigning, and you can discuss same sex marriage without going out in the streets and campaigning.
I am mostly the only one attempting to discuss marriage equality here. If I wasn't here this thread would be dead as a door nail.
Your attempts to censor me speak volumes. Why do you not give poly marriage the same consideration as same sex marriage?
I never said I didn’t

I’m not trying to censor you, I am just pointing out what you are doing to any newcomers so they don’t mistakenly take you as sincere, so they know you attack any supporters of SSM and are just using Poly as a way to do so.

Anyone that has been here a while already knows
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#181554 Feb 27, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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In the Brown lawsuit, Mr. Turley and Mr. Alba said the Brown family, members of the Apostolic United Brethren faith, has committed no crime except to live together,“motivated by their sincere religious beliefs and love for one another.”
States cannot “criminalize consensual intimate relationships, including homosexual relationships, between unmarried adults,” the lawyers wrote, citing the 2003 U.S. Supreme Court decision in Lawrence v. Texas.
And yet Utah has a law that forbids a legally married person from “purport[ing] to marry another person or cohabit[ing] with another person,” the lawyers wrote.
With this and other anti-polygamy laws, Utah “criminalizes not just polygamous marriages, but also an array of plural intimate relationships and associations of consenting adults,” Mr. Turley and Mr. Alba wrote.
Ok....that's their argument... did the Court rule yet?

You do realize that the Brown's are NOT asking to have their marriage legally recognized, right?
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#181555 Feb 27, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Prop 8 being defeated is one less hurdle to overcome in the legalization of polygamy in California.
Glad that makes you so angry! It makes me happy, I like equal rights for everyone. And especially for people you don't approve of.
Was that an "ooops, I was wrong?" I didn't think so.... you don't have it in you to be honest.

p.s. your "angry" argument is a strawman.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#181556 Feb 27, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I never said I didn’t
I’m not trying to censor you, I am just pointing out what you are doing to any newcomers so they don’t mistakenly take you as sincere, so they know you attack any supporters of SSM and are just using Poly as a way to do so.
Anyone that has been here a while already knows
Yep, but most have left.... looks like a few of us get some good giggles at Frankie's expense, though. And in a few months, this topic will be completely moot. So, I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts. Cheers!

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