PE.com-An algae bloom at Diamond Valley Lake near Hemet has affected the water supply for a vast swath of Southern California, making tap water for some people in Riverside and San Diego counties taste "musty" or "earthy," according to the Metropolitan Water District.
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#24 May 19, 2014
there is a truth that the moderators are deliberately censoring right now
#25 May 19, 2014
anything I post that can reveal that truth is being deleted as I post it
#26 May 19, 2014
Monster Huge diameter water pipes disguised as buildings in middle of little valley between Nuevo Moreno
#27 May 19, 2014
oh, they didn't censor that
#28 May 19, 2014
A single post daily, minus bigotry, would be best to improve politics.
Professional liars posing as civil engineers, lawyers, consultants,
bankers, agency managers and politicians have perpetrated fraud
that is costing residents of Murrieta and Temecula more than
$420 million yearly, according to California's university system.
The game is simple: Persuade voters to elect fools and crooks,
then deceive-coerce-bribe these politicians into approving unneeded
public works that generate jobs and wealth for the army of criminals
embedded in the local population and Upstate.
Which services and facilities are not needed?
Designing stormwater drainage, flood control and pollution treatment
systems became unnecessary half a century ago, as Fresno has
proven by catching all stormwaters in compliance with State Law.
No runoff means no flooding, no pollution, no need to import water.
With the immense natural underground reservoirs of Murrieta and
Temecula kept full by shaping landscapes to absorb rainwater, all
70,000 homes plus two million more could be supplied with ample
pure water for less than $20.00 each per month.
This sounds too good to be true to persons educated in California
by the masterfully misleading information of UC Berkeley and MWD.
But anyone who cares enough to do their homework can prove it
with state and federal files that show the purest, cheapest, most
reliable source of water would be saving as much of the 125 billion
gallons that run off this area each year as residents wish to use.
Diverting 4% of all rain to storage is not rocket science, a high
school science class could provide adequate plans for this.
Until that happens, 30 times as much pure rainwater as residents
use will be deliberately wasted by public servants whose job security
is more important than their duty to manage public affairs wisely.
#29 May 20, 2014
And this is precisely why we need salary caps on city,county,state,and federal employee's, as well as elimination of the unions at these levels as well.
#30 May 20, 2014
And furthermore, the UC system needs to be restructured and the "for profit" mentality Replaced by Quality Education At An AFFORDABLE Price.
#31 May 28, 2014
The details of water supply mismagement can be argued endlessly
to no avail. Local government corruption is a matter of ignorant
votes electing the same old professiona liars over and over.
Smart public forum members would post complete and accurate
information to correct this problem of badly informed voters.
As long as prominent persons pushed by news services are re-elected
there will be no replacement of the entrenched agency managers
who are preserving their jobs by not doing them properly.
Voters wise enough to realize that saving less 8% of all rainfall is
plain stupid would choose more honest politicians. So it seems
obvious that RivCo voters are collectively not too smart.
Voters who can't see that MWD is abusing its power by taking over reservoirs like Vail Lake, so that it can use these to dilute the slimy water it pumps from the Colorado River, are not smart enough to reject
foolish and/or corrupt incumbents.
MWD's bosses in the BofA will collect billions in windfall profits when
the land around these is turned over to them by corrupt Directors.
County Supervisors who allow the Chief Engineer to continue defying
State Law that orders him to "guide all or any stomwaters into soils"
do not deserve to be re-elected, yet RivCo voters keep doing this
There seems to be a self-mutilating theme in the minds of people
who move to the Temecula-Elsinore Valley.
#32 May 28, 2014
James, your right all the way! This site won't Nearly let me write about a .....
i'm your humble servant, and i'm working to bring you and everyone HOPE
... physically workin' on it nearly every day.
#33 Jun 15, 2014
There's a lot more to this "dirty water" issue than just dirty pipes.
Hemet's wellwater was abundant and pure at shallow depth until
MWD bored a hole under Mt San Jacinto to pipe in Colorado River
water, instead of sensibly routing their canal around this mountain.
Why did this quasi-public agency go to all that trouble?
The tunnel was not properly lined with concrete so 10 billion +-
gallons of pure rainwater from snowmelt leaks into it yearly through
fractured rock. This dilutes the salty river water enough to meet federal
quality standards. Hemet's prominent citizen Clayton Record was a
major recipient of public wealth for his part in this scheme, and the
Soboba tribe sued MWD for its theft of 'their' water so we all pay it for
the pure water that would otherwise be free to Hemet residents.
This reminds us that MWD managers are not paid to just smile pretty
for news cameras. They are chosen by California's best criminal minds
for their ability to keep editors/voters so badly informed and intimidated
by fear of water/energy shortage that they can't think straight.
That ability has been demonstrated perfectly in San Diego County
where several generations of politicians have been fooled-coerced-
bribed into not storing rain, so that importing water seems justified.
The original classic "Chinatown" movie illuminated this simple game.
Throw away so much rainfall that importation seems necessary.
Any questions, so far?
#35 Jun 15, 2014
#36 Jun 30, 2014
OK : Every operation of today's invisible mafia, a constantly
metamorphosing, highly adaptive form of the "Robber Barons"
of the 18th Century and the Syndicates of the 19th, is simple in
concept but marvelously devious in application. The Vail Lake
purchase by MWD is typical of its multi-purpose planniing.
Land speculation is the first priority there, of course, as it has
been for the criminal element of America's business sector
since day one. These cunning thieves will get the land through
MWD's poweers and subdivide it for enormous windfall profit.
A second purpose is capturing tens of billions of gallons of our
rainfall yearly to sell to us at enormous profit for these
individuals who bought up water rights with the help of
corrupted Riverside politicians.
We are now San Diegans so will benefit from the theft of Riverside
County's water that its officials pretend to not see.
The third benefit is critical to the success of MWD.
The additional pure water that Vail will produce for them
is necessary to squeak their Colorado River water past
federal salinity limits.(About 1/2 ton of salt per home yearly
is the max so it takes a lot of diluting to keep on importing
that nasty stuff). The tens of billions of gallons that fall on
Vail's watershed will be blended with the salty, slimy soup
MWD imports from the Colorado River.
Your past and present generation of LA/SD immigrants
compose a half-million sheep being fleeced with great efficiency
through local government, making Riverside County a huge
plantation of willing victims. But they could fix that situation in
one election if they inform themselves fully and network
effectively. As Fresno-Phoenix did.
#37 Jun 30, 2014
I know 2 people who retired from MWD they are living life like Royalty. Retirement package $250,000 +$7000. a month, free health care for the rest of their life (including spouse). For working 25 years monitoring the water flow that comes out of Desert. But, we get contaminated water to drink? What a crock of BS. I'm Not a fan of regulation but really, come on, how long can we take this! These large companies, treating us like slaves, for their enjoyment.
#38 Jul 1, 2014
JAS -- MWD jobs frequire much more than merely monitoring flows and taking care of pipelines. Salaried managers have to know how
the system works and be williong to do as they are ordered without
letting us know that our health and welfare is being damaged.
They will then be well-paid for life to keep them silent.
That requires a sacrifice of their porfessional etchis that borders on
criminal malfeasance, and if voters ever wake up enough to choose
a majority of honest, senible politicians then the whole scheme will
blow up, putting them at risk to whatever extent it can be proven
that they knew they were not acting properly.
That's a major stress factor to put up with for 25 years, certainly detrimental to their health and mental stability.
Plus their retirements will not be worry-free, no statutes limit their liability for willful mismanagement that violated the public trust.
So generous retirement packages are 'earned' by the upper-level managers who have to pretend they do not know they are delivering contaminated water. They may individually be able to escape prosecution by claiming they had good reason to believe it would be purified properly before delivery, But most cannot credibly claim
they did not know their actions contributed to degradation of the
health of 17 million people, since we have made this perfectly
clear on this and other TOPIX forums as well as the UT forum.
Of course we who pay MWD salaries expect public servants to inform
us when they see their bosses invent fictions to keep us from realizing
how badly we are being fooled. But it's too much to ask that someone
forfeit their career because of personal ethics. Would you?
#39 Jul 4, 2014
We must have the names of all top MWD officials posted here.
God bless you,
That is a career choice to be avoided at this time,
......gotta find that monkey wrench...
#40 Jul 6, 2014
Someone else will have to find and post names.
We just do facts and numbers, planning options and structural watershed maangement methods.
We pointed out deliberate mismanagement by Rivco's Chief
Engineer and Supervisors 20 years ago and both were found guilty
of major mismanagement. Yet that has continued without them so
it looks like the present generation of immigrants to SW Riverside
County are just as easily fooled as the original residents.
Can't help people who won't help themselves by informing themselves.
But we can provide bits of information so that the present body of
politicians and agency managers will not be able to credibly claim,
when they are finally brought to trial, that they did not know they
were violating State Law and burying the public in debt for bonds
to build unneeded facilities.
#41 Jul 7, 2014
So who Specifically do you have the problem with? MWD Or the county of riverside? I have family that are on MWD's board,I can forward your complaints to have them addressed? But if its the county of riverside, Then Address them
#42 Jul 9, 2014
Following are some of many questions CRWM engineers have asked.
We look forward to the answers you post here from MWD.
1. How much rain falls in Southern California as a yearly average?
2. How much of this could be stored for public use?
3. How much rainfall has been collected by MWD reservoirs
in S CA since it began exploiting this source?
4. Have local water agencies been reimbursed for this withdrawal
from their sources?
5. Does MWD have plans to seal its San Jacinto tunnel leakage?
6. Does MWD plan to reduce evaporation losses rom its reservoirs?
7. How much net electrical energy does MWD consume annually?
#43 Jul 10, 2014
These are questions i seriously doubt,even I can get anwsered,through family,These questions sound as though you would need lawyer representation to get anwsers for.so are you an engineering firm? or a consultant,And who hired you to investigate? And is there litigation pending? What is the motive of your inquiry
#44 Jul 14, 2014
You ask thoughtful questions:
- I'm one of 6 million water customers in S CA who pay MWD
an outrageous price for badly contaminated water we don't need.
- I am not with an engineering firm but several advise me.
- I'm a consultant to those who seek advice about basic problems
our government has not solved. I welcome critique of my advice
because that adds to their database and mine.
- I've not been hired to investigate, this is a civic duty of all citizens
that way too few take seriously.
- The litigation pending will be moved forward by politicians smart
and honest enough to recognize their duty and do it.
- The "motive of my inquiry" is providing facts and figures to friends,
neighbors, voters regarding planning options that would reduce the
amount of extortion we pay to persons who manipulate our public
servants - including news services - to keep voters ignorant of the
true costs and benefits of managing our plentiful rainwater properly.
If you have no answers to the questions I posted then how do you
decide which political candidates are most likely to manage your
land/water/energy affairs properly?
If you are aware of the CA IRWM program that is planning your
family's expenditures then you can take action to defend their
health-safety-welfare by getting up to speed on it and contributing
ideas, opinions, knowledge.
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